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Post by lizardpianist on Sept 20, 2023 9:19:22 GMT
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 19, 2023 15:34:17 GMT
Very nice!
Would you like to show us how you did it?
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Post by Arya Stark on Nov 19, 2023 19:45:04 GMT
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Post by lizardpianist on Nov 28, 2023 4:40:34 GMT
Very nice! Would you like to show us how you did it? Nothing special, just the classic starving Brits method. Note that my Sophia moves 4 hexes, Isabela 5 hex, Lan 5~6 hex. Also their business and art/cav stars are maxed. S&L until we get the best damage exchange. This is a simplified roadmap that I like to take, ask me any questions if you want 
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 28, 2023 14:48:52 GMT
OK, I don't have Lan yet - still trying to get her, but I guess I can use Sakurako.
I'm guessing either switching Warhorse back and forth or having two of them is involved here. Isabela of course doesn't need it.
I am assuming all the princesses are on starting units. Unfortunately, being an old fart, I can't quite squint enough to see which ones.
As I see it:
Sophia and the general in the second trade centre go down to clean up the minor nations, then Sophia continues on to finish southern Spain.
Hopkins (?) on artillery goes directly west to kick Brunswick's aft and then finish the northern Spanish holdings.
Non-general units hold off the Indians in the centre.
Isabella and Dearborn go to Cleveland for their honeymoon, then he goes through southern Injun territory to link up with Hopkins in the fortified northern part of the Spanish zone while she takes out the British port-and-fort complex in Western "Canada" then sweeps up into northern Injun territory and back down through Lake Michigan to finish off the Injuns.
Lan does the high speed hook run clockwise around Lake Michigan to starve and burn. I'm assuming that units spawned from the stable up in the far north come down and start dealing with Fort York as soon as she's done taking it.
Starting units take care of Augusta and the port north of Boston.
Jackson deals with Hessen.
Have I got that right?
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Post by lizardpianist on Nov 29, 2023 1:46:28 GMT
OK, I don't have Lan yet - still trying to get her, but I guess I can use Sakurako. Yep, don't worry, Sakurako should work. Movement matters the most for your Cav general.I'm guessing either switching Warhorse back and forth or having two of them is involved here. Isabela of course doesn't need it. Yep, you got that right. I have a war horse, 2x quality saddle, 2x horse artillery.I am assuming all the princesses are on starting units. Unfortunately, being an old fart, I can't quite squint enough to see which ones. Haha, sorry about that. You can zoom in, but I'll tell you their locations. Sophia gets on the double siege artillery on the south, Isabela on the heavy art next to Washington, and Lan on double light cavalry on Hartford.As I see it: Sophia and the general in the second trade centre go down to clean up the minor nations, then Sophia continues on to finish southern Spain. Hopkins (?) on artillery goes directly west to kick Brunswick's aft and then finish the northern Spanish holdings. Yes, Sophia does exactly that. I contemplated whether I send her North or South, but the battleship at south, the general on that lv4 city, and a medium sized fort on sea was so annoying that I took a few rounds longer when I sent Hopkins there. Thus, Hopkins go north and Sophia go south.
Non-general units hold off the Indians in the centre. Not just holding off, but kills them too. I spam a few lv1 militia to surround-pound with the given light artillery. Thinking again, it may have been useful to spawn 2 more light artillery to kill the Indian general coming in from the middle.
Isabella and Dearborn go to Cleveland for their honeymoon, then he goes through southern Injun territory to link up with Hopkins in the fortified northern part of the Spanish zone while she takes out the British port-and-fort complex in Western "Canada" then sweeps up into northern Injun territory and back down through Lake Michigan to finish off the Injuns. Exactly. Dearborn gets pretty weak when facing Cornplanter though, so using a medkit is recommended. For me though, I never healed Dearborn. I just sent him to St Louis ignoring cornplanter, while I stole the French stable at south and surround-pounded Cornplanter. Bringing some artillery units from east (the one you take from Indians) also helps melt Cornplanter's HP.Lan does the high speed hook run clockwise around Lake Michigan to starve and burn. I'm assuming that units spawned from the stable up in the far north come down and start dealing with Fort York as soon as she's done taking it. Yep, my Lan just bombards whichever big city is nearby. A notable fact is that Brits like to leave Montreal empty, so you can easily send a random unit to steal it when they are starving.Starting units take care of Augusta and the port north of Boston. That is correct!Jackson deals with Hessen. Nope, he stays at that factory when it's lv4. Since he has econ master, he produces more wrenches. Fun fact: When converted into one currency, lv4 factory produces more than lv6 city. Washington switches around the factory next to him and the city of Philadelphia btw, factory for more income and Philadelphia when needed to trade resources with 5* trading.Have I got that right?
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 29, 2023 12:43:24 GMT
lizardpianist, thanks for the corrections/clarifications. (No, I don't know how to undo an acceptance, alas.) Interesting bit of info about the L4 factory/L6 city, but it would explain why ET put the L4 factory next to Philadelphia. As 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺, is so fond of pointing out, it's all in the game, like a puzzle to solve, set up and waiting for us to (ab)use if only we can work out how!
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Post by lizardpianist on Nov 29, 2023 13:18:41 GMT
lizardpianist , thanks for the corrections/clarifications. (No, I don't know how to undo an acceptance, alas.) Interesting bit of info about the L4 factory/L6 city, but it would explain why ET put the L4 factory next to Philadelphia. As 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 , is so fond of pointing out, it's all in the game, like a puzzle to solve, set up and waiting for us to (ab)use if only we can work out how! Yep, exactly. This is the exact reason why I love this old game: it's so meticulously and carefully crafted! Level 6 city yields 45 gold and 6 wrench, while Level 4 factory yields 16 wrench. With a 5-star trader, 1 wrench is worth 5 gold. Converting everything into gold: Level 6 city: 75 gold Level 4 factory: 80 gold With Economic Master, Level 6 city: 81 gold and 10 wrench (sadly 0.8 wrench is not added up as 11 wrench) -> 131 gold Level 4 factory: 28 wrench -> 140 gold It's just a bonus trick to get 9 more gold... yeah haha May not be much, but it should add up in the end. Assume Jackson's factory is maxed by R7, at least 117 gold added up by start of R21? lol Since capital(Level 7 city) gives 68 gold and 8 wrench, it's worth 108 gold so you should put your econ master at the capital lol With Econ master it goes to 122 gold and 14 wrench, worth a whoppin' 192 gold! |
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Post by lizardpianist on Nov 29, 2023 13:22:23 GMT
Isabella and Dearborn go to Cleveland for their honeymoon, then he goes through southern Injun territory to link up with Hopkins in the fortified northern part of the Spanish zone while she takes out the British port-and-fort complex in Western "Canada" then sweeps up into northern Injun territory and back down through Lake Michigan to finish off the Injuns. Exactly. Dearborn gets pretty weak when facing Cornplanter though, so using a medkit is recommended. For me though, I never healed Dearborn. I just sent him to St Louis ignoring cornplanter, while I stole the French stable at south and surround-pounded Cornplanter. Bringing some artillery units from east (the one you take from Indians) also helps melt Cornplanter's HP.
Note: Ushakov from Russia often aids you killing Cornplanter, but he likes to do close combat for some reason I cannot comprehend.
So, I recommend you to try and block Ushakov from doing that. For me, when Ushakov suicided like that, it was a restart.... :/ |
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 29, 2023 16:25:10 GMT
lizardpianist , thanks for the corrections/clarifications. (No, I don't know how to undo an acceptance, alas.) Interesting bit of info about the L4 factory/L6 city, but it would explain why ET put the L4 factory next to Philadelphia. As 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 , is so fond of pointing out, it's all in the game, like a puzzle to solve, set up and waiting for us to (ab)use if only we can work out how! Yep, exactly. This is the exact reason why I love this old game: it's so meticulously and carefully crafted! Level 6 city yields 45 gold and 6 wrench, while Level 4 factory yields 16 wrench. With a 5-star trader, 1 wrench is worth 5 gold. Converting everything into gold: Level 6 city: 75 gold Level 4 factory: 80 gold With Economic Master, Level 6 city: 81 gold and 10 wrench (sadly 0.8 wrench is not added up as 11 wrench) -> 131 gold Level 4 factory: 28 wrench -> 140 gold It's just a bonus trick to get 9 more gold... yeah haha May not be much, but it should add up in the end. Assume Jackson's factory is maxed by R7, at least 117 gold added up by start of R21? lol Since capital(Level 7 city) gives 68 gold and 8 wrench, it's worth 108 gold so you should put your econ master at the capital lol With Econ master it goes to 122 gold and 14 wrench, worth a whoppin' 192 gold! Sadly, I don't think there is a Level 7 city in 1775, although I think there is one in 1812. But the only Lan run I've ever seen published here for 1812 is for the British. |
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Post by Arya Stark on Nov 29, 2023 17:13:20 GMT
Curious to see if this run is even possible without Warhorse? I get 28 turns without warhorse so I was wondering if that would shave off a few turns
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Post by lizardpianist on Nov 30, 2023 15:29:05 GMT
Curious to see if this run is even possible without Warhorse? I get 28 turns without warhorse so I was wondering if that would shave off a few turns It's obviously possible without a warhorse to pull off a speedrun, but you're gonna feel the pain when you try to go faster and faster. Pointless question. Just get a warhorse. I'd boldly say that you cannot get 21 or below without a warhorse, feel free to prove me wrong. I'm guessing that the maximum you can get with no warhorse is 25 rounds. |
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Post by lizardpianist on Nov 30, 2023 15:30:07 GMT
Yep, exactly. This is the exact reason why I love this old game: it's so meticulously and carefully crafted! Level 6 city yields 45 gold and 6 wrench, while Level 4 factory yields 16 wrench. With a 5-star trader, 1 wrench is worth 5 gold. Converting everything into gold: Level 6 city: 75 gold Level 4 factory: 80 gold With Economic Master, Level 6 city: 81 gold and 10 wrench (sadly 0.8 wrench is not added up as 11 wrench) -> 131 gold Level 4 factory: 28 wrench -> 140 gold It's just a bonus trick to get 9 more gold... yeah haha May not be much, but it should add up in the end. Assume Jackson's factory is maxed by R7, at least 117 gold added up by start of R21? lol Since capital(Level 7 city) gives 68 gold and 8 wrench, it's worth 108 gold so you should put your econ master at the capital lol With Econ master it goes to 122 gold and 14 wrench, worth a whoppin' 192 gold! Sadly, I don't think there is a Level 7 city in 1775, although I think there is one in 1812. But the only Lan run I've ever seen published here for 1812 is for the British. Sadly, there is no level 7 city in 1775. You are right. Those details were just included purely out of TMI. |
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Post by Arya Stark on Nov 30, 2023 17:03:19 GMT
Curious to see if this run is even possible without Warhorse? I get 28 turns without warhorse so I was wondering if that would shave off a few turns It's obviously possible without a warhorse to pull off a speedrun, but you're gonna feel the pain when you try to go faster and faster. Pointless question. Just get a warhorse. I'd boldly say that you cannot get 21 or below without a warhorse, feel free to prove me wrong. I'm guessing that the maximum you can get with no warhorse is 25 rounds. Yeah I have one now so when I have the time (i.e. when I'm not farming refreshes for Wellesley) I'll probably try it again, but I need to up my nobility more than anything |
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Post by pathdoc on Nov 30, 2023 23:03:12 GMT
lizardpianist, More information is always good. No such thing as TMI in this game, unless you start spilling out your fantasies of what you'd do with the princesses if you got them alone.
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