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Post by glaucon on Dec 26, 2023 3:46:41 GMT
Since I splurged and bought them, figure this might be of help to others.
there are currently four, but really, five IAP generals.
Oda Nobunaga. The best musket general. Great active ability. Special unit is kinda meh, but does appear in quite a few campaign scenarios so you don’t have to burn a full deploy on him. Purchase ability gives 25 ban kin per day. No library missions (yet). Overall great unit but sub par special abilities. The lack of a library mission drops him in my view to the third choice IAP.
Takeda Shingen. Solid cav general but need to pay attention to charge abilities on unit and terrain to take full advantage. Active ability is a great aura buff. Purchase ability is +1 deployed general (meh) but library sweep is 10k gold, 50 ban kin, and 15% chance at a purple armor. That’s amazing. I put him as 2nd choice.
Ii Naotora. Kind of a strange support unit. Amazing heal on her active, but she has no damage abilities which limits her utility. Purchase ability is 7500 gold/day. Library sweep is 15k and 5 meteorite. Pretty good, but compared to yukimura Sanada and shingen not as great. Fifth choice for me.
yukimura sanada. Probably the third best IAP cavalry general. So that’s not great. Active just isn’t as good as shingen s aura or Kenshin s aoe attack. I’m open to missing something about him, but I don’t see a need for three cavalry generals and leaves him out. Purchase ability is +1 deploy and 2x battle pass rewards (meh). Library sweep is 20 ban kin, 10 meteorite, 25% chance for 2 combat rations. That’s second best to shingen. Fourth overall because nobunaga is just that much better of a unit.
uesugi kenshin. I think he’s the best cav general. Abilities boost morale and boost damage based on high morale. Active is a good, not great, aoe. It is worse than abilities like Mōri, Hōjō, and motochika’s because it requires kenshin to be in middle of a pack of enemies rather than shooting into the center tile, but still good. Purchasing him is purchasing the premium battlepass reward track which is way more than you get from any other IAP purchase. Library sweep is 5 iron, 2 meteorite, and 15% for a purple weapon. The worst of the library sweep rewards. But you get some much from the battlepass that this is tops for me.
anyway, I would rank them like this:
overall:
kenshin
shingen
nobunaga
yukimura
naotora
as a general:
nobunaga
kenshin
shingen
naotora
yukimura
rewards:
kenshin
shingen
yukimura
naotora
nobunaga
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Post by stoic on Dec 26, 2023 4:17:43 GMT
Yes, I agree that purchasing battlepass is the best option available for those who decided to spend real money. Like in EW7 you'll get tons of good things in return. And again many pieces of equipment are locked in there. It may be frustrating to f2p players, but, I think, it is a fair deal.
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Post by balthazar on Dec 26, 2023 8:58:49 GMT
I have Kenshin and he is the tank of the game. Jumping through the enemy is the idea, you have to keep your teppos/archers safe. Hideyoshi is solid but his active requires him to be among friendly units not enemy so not "the" tank for me. Also for a tank you need the morale buff otherwise multiple attacks in a single turn kinda put you on your kneees 😅 ın short I agree he is the strongest general right now also because you get 120 additional fragments from Battle Pass. I am about to hit 6stars with him so thats an additional advantage if you ask me.
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Post by nikomachos on Dec 26, 2023 12:28:04 GMT
Nobunaga gives 25 ban daily not 75, if you can edit that.
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Post by lysander on Jan 5, 2024 10:46:17 GMT
Naotora is actually very useful for expeditions, as her self healing ability allows you to heal your other generals by leaving a single weak enemy troop alive at the end of every battle without worrying about her hp.
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Jan 5, 2024 17:33:44 GMT
Naotora is actually very useful for expeditions, as her self healing ability allows you to heal your other generals by leaving a single weak enemy troop alive at the end of every battle without worrying about her hp. And give her max lv tokuhon o jukuho and tsugetsugu increase her passive and healing effect make her immortal in the battle. |
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Jan 5, 2024 17:36:17 GMT
I have Kenshin and he is the tank of the game. Jumping through the enemy is the idea, you have to keep your teppos/archers safe. Hideyoshi is solid but his active requires him to be among friendly units not enemy so not "the" tank for me. Also for a tank you need the morale buff otherwise multiple attacks in a single turn kinda put you on your kneees 😅 ın short I agree he is the strongest general right now also because you get 120 additional fragments from Battle Pass. I am about to hit 6stars with him so thats an additional advantage if you ask me. give him best healing item you had + his sets bonus = even better tank general. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 6, 2024 5:34:12 GMT
I have Kenshin and he is the tank of the game. Jumping through the enemy is the idea, you have to keep your teppos/archers safe. Hideyoshi is solid but his active requires him to be among friendly units not enemy so not "the" tank for me. Also for a tank you need the morale buff otherwise multiple attacks in a single turn kinda put you on your kneees 😅 ın short I agree he is the strongest general right now also because you get 120 additional fragments from Battle Pass. I am about to hit 6stars with him so thats an additional advantage if you ask me. give him best healing item you had + his sets bonus = even better tank general. But I someone is equipping him with a healing item he will lose then his full set bonus, won't he? And damage reduction -15 plus +3 moral for allied forces nearby is not a bad bonus at all, I think. |
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Jan 6, 2024 5:53:34 GMT
give him best healing item you had + his sets bonus = even better tank general. But I someone is equipping him with a healing item he will lose then his full set bonus, won't he? And damage reduction -15 plus +3 moral for allied forces nearby is not a bad bonus at all, I think. for me I equipped him with his weapon and armor but horse with bypass effect and bencao which he still benefit from 2 pieces bonus +25% heal which +20 heal per turn. His 4 pieces is great but mostly I use him to tank dmg & heal in one to keep up with Takeda breakthrough in conquest. |
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Post by Airi Momoi on Jan 8, 2024 5:07:58 GMT
Since I splurged and bought them, figure this might be of help to others. there are currently four, but really, five IAP generals. There's another secret IAP general!  It's Fuma Kotaro, ninja extraordinaire who mainly excels in archer and has a really annoying active skill when fighting him - Shadowmeld prevents attacks on him during the turn while boosting his next attack by 30%. He's obtainable (supposedly, I'm F2P) by purchasing 150 ban-kin from the ban-kin store effectively giving him a price tag of the 150 ban-kin package. Unfortunately his very excellent (for campaigns and tenkabito mainly) special unit, the Shadow Ninja also happens to be IAP, and has the much higher bar of 7500 ban-kin. To unlock his max potential it definitely seems that you need to really L-O-V-E spending money.
I'm curious what your thoughts are on him - is he worth getting with the 150 ban-kin?
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Post by Boss Tweed on Jan 8, 2024 5:15:25 GMT
Since I splurged and bought them, figure this might be of help to others. there are currently four, but really, five IAP generals. There's another secret IAP general! It's Fuma Kotaro, ninja extraordinaire who mainly excels in archer and has a really annoying active skill when fighting him - Shadowmeld prevents attacks on him during the turn while boosting his next attack by 30%. He's obtainable (supposedly, I'm F2P) by purchasing 150 ban-kin from the ban-kin store effectively giving him a price tag of the 150 ban-kin package. Unfortunately his very excellent (for campaigns and tenkabito mainly) special unit, the Shadow Ninja also happens to be IAP, and has the much higher bar of 7500 ban-kin. To unlock his max potential it definitely seems that you need to really L-O-V-E spending money.
I'm curious what your thoughts are on him - is he worth getting with the 150 ban-kin?
He's a good archer general, but even with the Shadow Ninja, he is inferior to Tokugawa Ieyasu imo. |
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Jan 8, 2024 5:31:51 GMT
Since I splurged and bought them, figure this might be of help to others. there are currently four, but really, five IAP generals. There's another secret IAP general! It's Fuma Kotaro, ninja extraordinaire who mainly excels in archer and has a really annoying active skill when fighting him - Shadowmeld prevents attacks on him during the turn while boosting his next attack by 30%. He's obtainable (supposedly, I'm F2P) by purchasing 150 ban-kin from the ban-kin store effectively giving him a price tag of the 150 ban-kin package. Unfortunately his very excellent (for campaigns and tenkabito mainly) special unit, the Shadow Ninja also happens to be IAP, and has the much higher bar of 7500 ban-kin. To unlock his max potential it definitely seems that you need to really L-O-V-E spending money.
I'm curious what your thoughts are on him - is he worth getting with the 150 ban-kin?
in my opinion I have him but rarely use him my perspective is he have good skills sets for general use & conquest but his specialized unit is only useful in campaigns & tenkabito but not much use in conquest(except the first passive make it good rusher for speed run player). But for players who not much for IAP it‘s better to have another good general for 0.99$ but his fragment is hard to come by like other general without library mission. |
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Post by dannyng on Jan 24, 2024 0:38:51 GMT
Takeda Shingen (maxed special items, 4 stars) stats: Valor (165), Leadership (216), Agility (154), Intelligence (180)
Sanada Yukimuka (maxed special items, 3 stars) stats: Valor (179), Leadership (169), Agility (174), Intelligence (150)
Although Overall band maybe favorable to Takeda, in my opinion, Sanada is the best gold IAP cavalry general. His dmg is far superior than Takeda's.
In dealing with multiple enemies when alone, Sanada will absolutely crush them with his active skill and passive skill providing dmg and immune to demoralization effect.
I've been using him in conquest leading attack since it's hard for enemies to bring down his morale.
This is just my take, Takeda might be better with other allied units but going on solo mission, Sanada will be my first choice.
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Post by Boss Tweed on Feb 3, 2024 5:34:59 GMT
How would Tachibana Ginchiyo rank amongst these IAP gens. Personally, as a general I think she's better than Oda Nobunaga  |
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Post by SolidLight on Feb 3, 2024 9:01:36 GMT
How would Tachibana Ginchiyo rank amongst these IAP gens. Personally, as a general I think she's better than Oda Nobunaga I don’t think she is, and in general I think she should be a pretty low priority because it’d be tough for her to be meaningfully useful. Nobunaga atleast yields tons of Ban-Kin in the long run. I thought her sweep was great because I thought that horses were a finite resource, and I need tons if I’m getting serious about low turncounts, but the Kai warhorse is replenishable and being serious about low turncounts is a fairly long term goal anyway… so not much reason to get her, except for her fan I guess. Her 4 set bonus is really powerful, but might not be best used in her hands. |
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