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Post by stoic on Jan 24, 2024 9:10:29 GMT
After spending some time in WC4 I have an interesting idea, I think... I noticed that free generals the game provides us with are very good, actually. I don't recall any of ET games when we had so many good free generals. Horton, Pavlov, Darlan and Chennault are excellent addition to any team and, in fact, it is possible to create a budget team around them. So, I decided to stop my Red Army run for a while and to start the game from the scratch again. The main idea is to spend as less medals as possible on purchasing my generals, using only free generals, generals purchased with 40% discount and cheap second and third tier generals. I think it is possible to create a very good team this way.  |
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Post by stoic on Jan 24, 2024 10:27:54 GMT
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2024 9:35:32 GMT
Day 2 And my first "endgame" general - Bastico. I see some excellent potential in him. His unique skill is very easy to trigger, it's enough just to attempt a suicidal attack of any unit close to dying in his vicinity. Most likely will choose Inspiration as his fourth skill.  I could also unlock Pavlov today, but, unfortunately, one of conditions is to log-in for 3 days, so, have to wait until tomorrow.  Next goal, as usual, to receive 40% discount for Konev. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 25, 2024 12:18:19 GMT
If you are just limiting yourself to "no non-discounted gold tier," that can be roughly translated to "no Guderian, Yamashita, Yamaguchi, Rokossovsky, or Montgomery." Not that bad since you still have Rommel, List, Bastico, and Pavlov for tank, Higuchi and Clark for infantry, and Darlan, Horton, and Nimitz for navy. For artillery and air force (mostly) it's unaffected.
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2024 12:58:38 GMT
If you are just limiting yourself to "no non-discounted gold tier," that can be roughly translated to "no Guderian, Yamashita, Yamaguchi, Rokossovsky, or Montgomery." Not that bad since you still have Rommel, List, Bastico, and Pavlov for tank, Higuchi and Clark for infantry, and Darlan, Horton, and Nimitz for navy. For artillery and air force (mostly) it's unaffected. Yes, that's basically the idea. I would like to test new names, so, probably will get Mikava instead of Nimitz and experiment with Infantry (I tested Higuchi and can't say his unique skill is impressive). And probably will skip List too, because upgrading his 3 tank stars is anything but "budget"  Besides, as you pointed out, there will be new generals and thus new options. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 25, 2024 18:31:53 GMT
I unlocked 40% discount for Konev, now it's time to earn enough medals here and there   |
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Post by verily on Jan 25, 2024 23:20:32 GMT
You start wc4? Maybe I will see it, or wait for mod as like i play it last time. It's hard to start from beginning unless iap guys but I believe you can do it so good luck. (Y)
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 26, 2024 0:11:18 GMT
If you are just limiting yourself to "no non-discounted gold tier," that can be roughly translated to "no Guderian, Yamashita, Yamaguchi, Rokossovsky, or Montgomery." Not that bad since you still have Rommel, List, Bastico, and Pavlov for tank, Higuchi and Clark for infantry, and Darlan, Horton, and Nimitz for navy. For artillery and air force (mostly) it's unaffected. Yes, that's basically the idea. I would like to test new names, so, probably will get Mikava instead of Nimitz and experiment with Infantry (I tested Higuchi and can't say his unique skill is impressive). And probably will skip List too, because upgrading his 3 tank stars is anything but "budget" Besides, as you pointed out, there will be new generals and thus new options. Bastico actually isn't a lot cheaper than List when maxed out. Mikawa is decent but given we have Darlan, his Wolfpack won't be that useful. Higuchi's first skill isn't great but that doesn't really matter since his true advantage is his price. |
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Post by George Rudi on Jan 26, 2024 3:48:17 GMT
If you are just limiting yourself to "no non-discounted gold tier," that can be roughly translated to "no Guderian, Yamashita, Yamaguchi, Rokossovsky, or Montgomery." Not that bad since you still have Rommel, List, Bastico, and Pavlov for tank, Higuchi and Clark for infantry, and Darlan, Horton, and Nimitz for navy. For artillery and air force (mostly) it's unaffected. Yes, that's basically the idea. I would like to test new names, so, probably will get Mikava instead of Nimitz and experiment with Infantry (I tested Higuchi and can't say his unique skill is impressive). And probably will skip List too, because upgrading his 3 tank stars is anything but "budget" Besides, as you pointed out, there will be new generals and thus new options. Let me try with "all new non iap gens then" (Sounds like a new car ads, lol) Question is, can i assume that the likes of List and Nenonen are considered new gen? |
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Post by stoic on Jan 26, 2024 4:44:19 GMT
Yes, that's basically the idea. I would like to test new names, so, probably will get Mikava instead of Nimitz and experiment with Infantry (I tested Higuchi and can't say his unique skill is impressive). And probably will skip List too, because upgrading his 3 tank stars is anything but "budget" Besides, as you pointed out, there will be new generals and thus new options. Let me try with "all new non iap gens then" (Sounds like a new car ads, lol) Question is, can i assume that the likes of List and Nenonen are considered new gen? True, ET know how to sell things I definitely will get Nenonen if they won't introduce another good Artillery general. I haven't ever liked Leeb, truth be told, but when fully upgraded he is probably better. Yet the key words are "fully upgraded" Nenonen in comparison has mostly lvl 3 skills. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 26, 2024 5:01:37 GMT
Yes, that's basically the idea. I would like to test new names, so, probably will get Mikava instead of Nimitz and experiment with Infantry (I tested Higuchi and can't say his unique skill is impressive). And probably will skip List too, because upgrading his 3 tank stars is anything but "budget" Besides, as you pointed out, there will be new generals and thus new options. Bastico actually isn't a lot cheaper than List when maxed out. Mikawa is decent but given we have Darlan, his Wolfpack won't be that useful. Higuchi's first skill isn't great but that doesn't really matter since his true advantage is his price. Yet, he is cheaper. In comparison to List he has a higher rank and 4 Armor stars instead of 3. Besides, I value his damage potential more than that of List. In fact, I am not sure that Blitzkrieg is a top skill for a Tank general nowadays. Concerning Higuchi we actually have an Infantry general within his price range who has a significantly better survivability, namely Rundstedt. Higuchi has more upgraded skills, yet Rundstedt is two ranks higher. So, probably, the cost of investments is about equal. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 26, 2024 5:18:45 GMT
Bastico actually isn't a lot cheaper than List when maxed out. Mikawa is decent but given we have Darlan, his Wolfpack won't be that useful. Higuchi's first skill isn't great but that doesn't really matter since his true advantage is his price. Yet, he is cheaper. In comparison to List he has a higher rank and 4 Armor stars instead of 3. Besides, I value his damage potential more than that of List. In fact, I am not sure that Blitzkrieg is a top skill for a Tank general nowadays. Concerning Higuchi we actually have an Infantry general within his price range who has a significantly better survivability, namely Rundstedt. Higuchi has more upgraded skills, yet Rundstedt is two ranks higher. So, probably, the cost of investments is about equal. Bastico starts off with 2 movement while List has 3, which narrows the gap. He is cheaper, just not by a lot. While Inspiration is becoming more valuable than before, Blitz still has its use, just not as irreplaceable as before. I'd say this is more of a preference thing. That's another con for List since he doesn't have that flexibility. I don't think Rundstedt is worthy of entering the discussion. Explosives is important for infantry generals but Rundstedt doesn't have the slot. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 26, 2024 5:29:10 GMT
Yet, he is cheaper. In comparison to List he has a higher rank and 4 Armor stars instead of 3. Besides, I value his damage potential more than that of List. In fact, I am not sure that Blitzkrieg is a top skill for a Tank general nowadays. Concerning Higuchi we actually have an Infantry general within his price range who has a significantly better survivability, namely Rundstedt. Higuchi has more upgraded skills, yet Rundstedt is two ranks higher. So, probably, the cost of investments is about equal. Bastico starts off with 2 movement while List has 3, which narrows the gap. He is cheaper, just not by a lot. While Inspiration is becoming more valuable than before, Blitz still has its use, just not as irreplaceable as before. I'd say this is more of a preference thing. That's another con for List since he doesn't have that flexibility. I don't think Rundstedt is worthy of entering the discussion. Explosives is important for infantry generals but Rundstedt doesn't have the slot. We cross that bridge when we come to it, they say I recall it was possible to complete more than a half of the game without having a single Explosion on our generals. Don't forget that every new player has other urgent needs at the start, rather than planning how beat Doom Warzone For a start it would be great to beat off every daily Invasion. And Rundstedt is capable of doing it just fine. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 26, 2024 5:31:26 GMT
Meantime Day 3 Pavlov is on board  |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 26, 2024 5:48:04 GMT
Bastico starts off with 2 movement while List has 3, which narrows the gap. He is cheaper, just not by a lot. While Inspiration is becoming more valuable than before, Blitz still has its use, just not as irreplaceable as before. I'd say this is more of a preference thing. That's another con for List since he doesn't have that flexibility. I don't think Rundstedt is worthy of entering the discussion. Explosives is important for infantry generals but Rundstedt doesn't have the slot. We cross that bridge when we come to it, they say I recall it was possible to complete more than a half of the game without having a single Explosion on our generals. Don't forget that every new player has other urgent needs at the start, rather than planning how beat Doom Warzone For a start it would be great to beat off every daily Invasion. And Rundstedt is capable of doing it just fine. Getting an infantry general just for invasion sounds like luxury to me, especially when we can just use Konev for infantry invasions for a long period of time. For frontier and warzone Explosives will be beneficial. Don't forget Higuchi also comes with lvl 3 IL and lvl 2 Raider. Rundstedt doesn't have either of them. |
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