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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 13, 2024 20:03:10 GMT
Fair, I can see the merits of getting mounted archer and mounted teppo even while your best archer is Nene. I remember for the longest time I was relying on Tanegashima Tokitaka and Ikeda Sen for teppo and Nene for archer because my luck was garbage at the beginning of the game (kept pulling Hideyoshi fragments for gold pulls, and pulled Yamagata Masakage and Honganji Kennyo for purple) and I guess mounted teppo and mounted archer would still have been good; plus they won't stay with those generals forever. But more likely than not others would have had better gacha luck than me and would actually have a purple general who works, even if it's Naoe Kanetsugu.
Definitely recommend doing Campaign to collect all the basic units, and then Tenkabito for farming. If you get stuck in either that's when you start normal conquests to collect enough resources to get more magatama and coins/upgrade items, and then once you have a capable team and plenty of progress in the other two modes, challenge conquests become the mode you will do. Campaign and Tenkabito kinda goes together, while conquest is more of an end game (midgame? considering we're only halfway through the story with Hideyoshi not even adopting his most famous name) grind.
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Post by SolidLight on Feb 13, 2024 21:17:42 GMT
Fair, I can see the merits of getting mounted archer and mounted teppo even while your best archer is Nene. I remember for the longest time I was relying on Tanegashima Tokitaka and Ikeda Sen for teppo and Nene for archer because my luck was garbage at the beginning of the game (kept pulling Hideyoshi fragments for gold pulls, and pulled Yamagata Masakage and Honganji Kennyo for purple) and I guess mounted teppo and mounted archer would still have been good; plus they won't stay with those generals forever. But more likely than not others would have had better gacha luck than me and would actually have a purple general who works, even if it's Naoe Kanetsugu. Definitely recommend doing Campaign to collect all the basic units, and then Tenkabito for farming. If you get stuck in either that's when you start normal conquests to collect enough resources to get more magatama and coins/upgrade items, and then once you have a capable team and plenty of progress in the other two modes, challenge conquests become the mode you will do. Campaign and Tenkabito kinda goes together, while conquest is more of an end game (midgame? considering we're only halfway through the story with Hideyoshi not even adopting his most famous name) grind. I’m saying any competent archer / teppo  . It’s probable that you have that in the short term, but you’re not guaranteed or anything. That’s a situation where I probably wouldn’t pick up either. Maybe the Teppo, you could probably make Tokitaka work on that one if you juice him up with gear. You got pretty unlucky, but you probably just need a top 5 teppo / archer to get it going. I don’t think that’s too unlikely to get within, like 150 rolls or so. |
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 13, 2024 21:35:05 GMT
I’m saying any competent archer / teppo . It’s probable that you have that in the short term, but you’re not guaranteed or anything. That’s a situation where I probably wouldn’t pick up either. Maybe the Teppo, you could probably make Tokitaka work on that one if you juice him up with gear. You got pretty unlucky, but you probably just need a top 5 teppo / archer to get it going. I don’t think that’s too unlikely to get within, like 150 rolls or so. By 150 rolls you're guaranteed a top 5 teppo/archer simply by the virtue that you can spark a purple. But yeah, I had very bad luck until after I had completed the entire campaign up to that point (before Conquer Takeda and Honno-ji was released) But it'll come around eventually, and now I have almost all the F2P generals (Sanada Masayuki, come home already!)
Tokitaka definitely could work for mounted teppo since he's one of three generals in the game with 5 stars in teppo. Nobunaga and Shigehide are the other two. Admittedly his valor needs some working on, but it'll be good enough to do the job until you get someone better. Nene... sucks as a general in general but she definitely works as an early game archer simply by virtue of being guaranteed. Honestly working towards those two even without any competent generals is a decent strategy, but I think I still would prefer to get a bonus here and now with Elite Samurai for Hideyoshi and Horoshu for Keiji, especially if I will still use those units in the future (which I do, in challenge conquest and Kimotsuki runs)
And, if you have certain IAPs all this question of "will I have a good teppo/archer general" is moot because they are guaranteed by payment. So Ginchiyo and Nobunaga owners definitely should make mounted teppo their first target no matter what just to have their purchase reach their full potential, and Naotora owners should focus on mounted archer (which also happens to be her specialized unit, but once you get Motonari it'll probably go to him.)
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Post by verily on Feb 14, 2024 2:12:12 GMT
I have purchased the ship as well  . My point is not that it is the best Naval unit (it is actually not), but that you can do in GCS practically everything you want. So, I did it simply because I can afford it  Do daily tasks, play Expeditions, don't neglect conquests and you should be just as fine... Inevitably... i just do daily task, expedition i skip conquest (it takes longer time than ew7 even the small map(but many clans)) and i think im fine... but its slower than i thought. can't have armors and things as i use.bankin to get a new gold gen after 150 pulls. (its hoju and i didnt get date, still no max star gen) even if its not advisable to use bankin to recruit gen i still gamble and feel lost... |
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Post by stoic on Feb 14, 2024 4:43:19 GMT
I have purchased the ship as well . My point is not that it is the best Naval unit (it is actually not), but that you can do in GCS practically everything you want. So, I did it simply because I can afford it Do daily tasks, play Expeditions, don't neglect conquests and you should be just as fine... Inevitably... i just do daily task, expedition i skip conquest (it takes longer time than ew7 even the small map(but many clans)) and i think im fine... but its slower than i thought. can't have armors and things as i use.bankin to get a new gold gen after 150 pulls. (its hoju and i didnt get date, still no max star gen) even if its not advisable to use bankin to recruit gen i still gamble and feel lost... Even if our recruiting seems to be bad at certain times, it is still helpful in the long run. I upgraded all green generals to 6* and now it does pay off. The progress is not breath-taking indeed but it is there. And in comparison to EW7 it is possible to see results on a horizon. In EW7 you can farm for donkey's years without a clear understanding "why" |
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Post by stoic on Feb 14, 2024 7:13:48 GMT
Airi MomoiI understand that RNG can be annoying at times, but on extraordinary occasions we shouldn't be at its mercy. And trading Data Masamune for "War souls" is an extraordinary occasion, truth be told. After trading them for Date I keep the rest in reserve, just in case. And soon enough it will be enough to trade it for 2 new golden tier generals (if there will be any with interesting skills and/or Library chapters).  With all the Magatama they showered us lately it was possible to collect 120 war souls. It is almost a half that needed for Date. Just save up the rest without falling into temptation to use it for minor tactical objectives.
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Post by Airi Momoi on Feb 14, 2024 14:27:05 GMT
Airi Momoi I understand that RNG can be annoying at times, but on extraordinary occasions we shouldn't be at its mercy. And trading Data Masamune for "War souls" is an extraordinary occasion, truth be told. After trading them for Date I keep the rest in reserve, just in case. And soon enough it will be enough to trade it for 2 new golden tier generals (if there will be any with interesting skills and/or Library chapters). With all the Magatama they showered us lately it was possible to collect 120 war souls. It is almost a half that needed for Date. Just save up the rest without falling into temptation to use it for minor tactical objectives. Just looking at the rewards in the email tab shows 100 magatama, wow. Things are even easier than the release update which is when I started playing where getting rolls was a little harder. Hopefully all of those are going to forever exist meaning a free 100 rolls for anyone who starts playing and 2/3rds the way there to a purple general or 1/3 the way to a gold general. Yeah by that metric there should be no trouble getting the best team or at least getting one purple for each type of unit. Also off topic but does anyone wait until they can do 10 pulls or is it just me? Maybe it's just a habit from Project Sekai where they guarantee a 3 or 4 star in 10 pulls, but as far as I know for GCS there's no difference in odds between a 1 pull and a 10 pull. Then again I know very little about how the gacha system in this game works and optimizing it honestly probably doesn't matter since in the long run you'll collect them all anyway. That's partly why I'm an advocate for rolling with the punches in this game mainly because it gives the leeway to do so. |
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Post by pevertpanda on Feb 14, 2024 15:07:06 GMT
I always save my magatama for 10 pulls I think it will increase the chance of obtaining Gold. Now I am saving up 17500 ban-kins waiting for the best generals in the new update.
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Feb 14, 2024 16:56:16 GMT
The argument for saving for 10 pulls is the guarantee that "a ten consecutive recruit is guaranteed to receive purple or higher rarity fragments". We, or at least I, initially took that to apply to 10 pulls, but potentially not to 1 pull ten times. But given that we know that draws can't in general be changed with save/load, including single vs 10 pulls, so that assumption is probably not valid. In any case, gold draws are guaranteed in every hundred draws, so I don't believe that saving for 10 pulls makes gold draws more probable.
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. It’s probable that you have that in the short term, but you’re not guaranteed or anything. That’s a situation where I probably wouldn’t pick up either. Maybe the Teppo, you could probably make Tokitaka work on that one if you juice him up with gear.
. My point is not that it is the best Naval unit (it is actually not), but that you can do in GCS practically everything you want. So, I did it simply because I can afford it 
