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Post by best75 on Apr 5, 2016 10:36:31 GMT
I assume besides there are also Baltic States and the minor axis countries there as well
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Apr 5, 2016 10:41:10 GMT
If I could give my take on it:
June 1941: Hitler invades Russia. He doesn't get involved in military affairs, however, and thus Guderian is free to march on Moscow without having to turn around to take Kiev.
September 1941: Germans take Moscow. Stalin relocates Eastward to C.Asia.
December 1941: America is brought into the war.
July 1942: Germans want to end the war for good, they aim for Stalingrad.
August 1942: The Germans realize trying to take the city was a mistake and retreat before they're surrounded.
November 1942: Operation Torch successfully takes N. Africa except for axis controlled Tunisia.
Winter: All forces in Russia wait for spring. Sicily is captured as with S. Italy. Mussolini is overthrown and Germans take over italy.
April: Seeing how the Germans are winning in Russia, and that intervention in N. Africa could win the war, Spain joins the Axis.
May: The Allies seek to gain Portugal on their side in order to gain an Iberian ally and for a major offensive against Spain at some point. When Salazar seems to agree, Franco orders an attack on Portugal. Gibraltar is also sieged by Spanish forces.
June-August: On the 22nd of June, 1943, the Germans launch a major offensive on the two anniversary of Operation Barbarossa. This offensive results in the capture of most of the caucasus, the area around Lake Ladoga, and Karelia. Leningrad falls soon after Lake Ladoga is secured. The Spanish take Porto and southern Portugal, but make no headway in Gibraltar. The Allies push on through Italy.
October: Separatists in the USSR rise up against the war in areas like Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Siberia, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Kyrgyzstan. These C. Asian partisans end up assassinating Stalin and all the Central Asian states declare independence from the USSR. The southern caucasus and Siberia follows suit. The remnants of the Soviet government, led by Molotov, relocate to Saratov and strike a deal with Hitler. The communist government will be abandoned and a republic will be put in its place. All men who support the communist government in Russia must be relocated to Germany. Germany takes all the land they gained.
November: Knowing that without the USSR, the Germans would either lose or stalemate, the Allies launch a naval landing at Normandy, and strike against Spain in Portugal and Gibraltar. Madrid falls by December due to the lackluster condition of the Spanish army and Franco is killed by a former republican supporter. The Germans attempt to take over the rest of Spain, but the Allies reach the Pyrenees before they can. The Normandy beachheads are secured, but further offense is halted.
February 1944: With the war in Europe reaching a stalemate, the Allies and Axis sign a deal: The Allies will have Spain and Italy in their sphere of influence, and will not be a part of Hitler's reich. South Africa, Namibia, Tanzania, Botswana, and Zambia must be ceded to the Germans, as with the Suez Canal and the Belgian congo. Morocco is also given to Germany directly. Galicia is given to Portugal.
The war in the Pacific still rages, however...
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Apr 5, 2016 10:42:40 GMT
And the Germans can be later spilt into two groups, like those who want peace and the pre war borders of every country versus the hardcore hitlerists?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 11:00:07 GMT
But wait, so there are only four available nations? Edit: Five, sorry, but still!!!! No there will be a lot of countries, just let me end the timeline first as I have only added some of my ideas for it. BTW I am not sure why I have began to make it that fast |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Apr 5, 2016 11:02:14 GMT
So in the 1955 scenario there would be something like these contries?:
Germany
Soviet Remanants
Japan
USA
Australia
Baltic Nations (Does this include Scandanavia as well?)
Britain
Spain
Italy
Canada
And if you wanted to add more
Vicy France
Free France
Turkey (could decide to enter war)
Portugal (Could enter war maybe they fear for thier colonies in Africa?)
The Central and Southern American Nations
Romania
Bulgaria (Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary could even join like Balic Staes to form Balkan States
Hungary
This scenario if done right could be really interesting in my opinion. Thogh I vote for 2016 scenario (hopefully people can understand its a game if it gets picked)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 11:45:01 GMT
BTW there will be new alliances.
And AU is not a country. It's a union
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 15:05:51 GMT
So in the 1955 scenario there would be something like these contries?: Germany Soviet Remanants Japan USA Australia Baltic Nations (Does this include Scandanavia as well?) Britain Spain Italy Canada And if you wanted to add more Vicy France Free France Turkey (could decide to enter war) Portugal (Could enter war maybe they fear for thier colonies in Africa?) The Central and Southern American Nations Romania Bulgaria (Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary could even join like Balic Staes to form Balkan States Hungary This scenario if done right could be really interesting in my opinion. Thogh I vote for 2016 scenario (hopefully people can understand its a game if it gets picked) I will make a country list within a week. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 5, 2016 15:13:58 GMT
Take your time, TW13 probably will be played in fall 2016. We still have 10, then play two more before the 13th can be started.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 16:27:26 GMT
Take your time, TW13 probably will be played in fall 2016. We still have 10, then play two more before the 13th can be started. I know, but still, I offered 3 ideas and if you guys won't like this one (which you voted) I can still change the theme, but we shall see as I would like all 3 ideas really played as they are good and different from anything we have had. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 16:29:10 GMT
If I could give my take on it: June 1941: Hitler invades Russia. He doesn't get involved in military affairs, however, and thus Guderian is free to march on Moscow without having to turn around to take Kiev. September 1941: Germans take Moscow. Stalin relocates Eastward to C.Asia. December 1941: America is brought into the war. July 1942: Germans want to end the war for good, they aim for Stalingrad. August 1942: The Germans realize trying to take the city was a mistake and retreat before they're surrounded. November 1942: Operation Torch successfully takes N. Africa except for axis controlled Tunisia. Winter: All forces in Russia wait for spring. Sicily is captured as with S. Italy. Mussolini is overthrown and Germans take over italy. April: Seeing how the Germans are winning in Russia, and that intervention in N. Africa could win the war, Spain joins the Axis. I like your ideas, and I will take something from it to timeline |
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Post by General William T. Sherman on Apr 5, 2016 18:31:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 19:21:46 GMT
It is good, but I shall edit it as differently it won't go further with timeline in 1955 and as I said there will be new alliances as all of the old dogs are dead and the old alliances are disrupting, so I think there shall be neo Nazis, neo imperialists and neo allies. But I don't want to make a confusion with it. So basically neo Nazis are New Germany and its allies, neo imperialists are neo Japan and allies and neo allies are neo USA and its allies. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 5, 2016 19:33:28 GMT
Or ditch the neo neo neo neo thing lol. Up to you to name the nations the way you want to, ofc.
One thing... what if Germany won WW2 and in 1954 Hitler dies leaving a fractured Third Riech in its place? It would open up so MUCH for potential in a TW. Also some of the countries outside the 3rd reich could choose to side with a particular group of Germans within the Riech while other countries prefer to support a different Germany, etc etc...
This would affect the borders between WW2 and Hilter's death. Then when Hilter dies, Germany breaks up into pieces and everyone is scrambling for safety in the upturned world being thrust into chaos. Every nation would have to make their own decisions on whom to trust and whom to strike at.
Just brainstormed this a minute ago.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 19:52:09 GMT
Or ditch the neo neo neo neo thing lol. Up to you to name the nations the way you want to, ofc. One thing... what if Germany won WW2 and in 1954 Hitler dies leaving a fractured Third Riech in its place? It would open up so MUCH for potential in a TW. Also some of the countries outside the 3rd reich could choose to side with a particular group of Germans within the Riech while other countries prefer to support a different Germany, etc etc... This would affect the borders between WW2 and Hilter's death. Then when Hilter dies, Germany breaks up into pieces and everyone is scrambling for safety in the upturned world being thrust into chaos. Every nation would have to make their own decisions on whom to trust and whom to strike at. Just brainstormed this a minute ago. It is almost the same thing as I am making it, but Hitler and all of the old dogs dies till 1953 and then there starts the braking period as all of the countries which has been given freedom has considered and accepted other options |
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 5, 2016 20:02:24 GMT
Ah got it... I thought you were planning something different in my mind. My bad. Appreciate the clear up.  Now that's something making this interesting for 1955 to me. I'm starting to get a feel on this idea. |
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