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Post by TK421 on Apr 12, 2016 19:08:20 GMT
Yeah. Quite a few nations rely on their generals. Mostly China, Japan, Russia, and Germany.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 0:15:25 GMT
Sometimes in 1939, 1943 but in 1950-1960 I keep them alive if they get nuked then that a whole new story
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Post by TK421 on Apr 13, 2016 0:33:50 GMT
1950-1960 is Kamikaze time for your generals. The moment you move them too close to the enemy, they'll nuke them anyways, therefore making this one of the more useful strategies. Why send your unit back to heal, when he could kill/severely damage quite a few enemies:D
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Post by Nishikino on Apr 14, 2016 2:55:51 GMT
My generals are usually sent in packs to rush/overwhelm the enemy. I find that doing so also prevents them from being nuked in 1950/1960 (for whatever reason, but it works).
Once their health is mostly depleted, they withdraw to the rear while fresh, full-health men take over.
If you play as the Soviet Union in 1960, swiftly blitzkrieg the German forces (it helps if you have a few extra tank generals to support the already-available infantry/artillery marshals) and cross into France. I discovered that it lessened the chances of a nuke against your European forces.
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Post by cardbattler on Apr 14, 2016 4:24:18 GMT
My generals are usually sent in packs to rush/overwhelm the enemy. I find that doing so also prevents them from being nuked in 1950/1960 (for whatever reason, but it works). Once their health is mostly depleted, they withdraw to the rear while fresh, full-health men take over. If you play as the Soviet Union in 1960, swiftly blitzkrieg the German forces (it helps if you have a few extra tank generals to support the already-available infantry/artillery marshals) and cross into France. I discovered that it lessened the chances of a nuke against your European forces. Yes, I also found that out in my Soviet 1960 game. Only Zhukov died (and the cause is regular shots, not a nuke). Didn't even deploy a general in Europe. All nukes seems to be diverted to Poland, though. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Apr 14, 2016 9:36:14 GMT
Interesting... it must be a hard coded feature in the AI programming to nuke things specifically outside their air range but still within the missle range. I noticed sometimes Russia would waste their nukes on a motorized infantry in middle of Asia near nonewhere a vital target, firing from Moscow.
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Post by cardbattler on Apr 14, 2016 14:08:14 GMT
Interesting... it must be a hard coded feature in the AI programming to nuke things specifically outside their air range but still within the missle range. I noticed sometimes Russia would waste their nukes on a motorized infantry in middle of Asia near nowhere a vital target, firing from Moscow. I never got that strike, except when playing USSR itself. Shots very common I've seen are 1. USSR nukes Manstein in Berlin 2. UK nukes Warsaw/Krakow (There's only one time a french motored infantry ran into Krakow to capture it, never see someone capturing it). 3. PRC nukes Tokyo/Yokohama/Osaka. They possess very strong hatred for Japan. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 14, 2016 18:42:11 GMT
Interesting... it must be a hard coded feature in the AI programming to nuke things specifically outside their air range but still within the missle range. I noticed sometimes Russia would waste their nukes on a motorized infantry in middle of Asia near nowhere a vital target, firing from Moscow. I never got that strike, except when playing USSR itself. Shots very common I've seen are 1. USSR nukes Manstein in Berlin 2. UK nukes Warsaw/Krakow (There's only one time a french motored infantry ran into Krakow to capture it, never see someone capturing it). 3. PRC nukes Tokyo/Yokohama/Osaka. They possess very strong hatred for Japan. In 1960, everyone who can use nuke will nuke everyone inside the city(general/super tank), Erich von Manstein is an example. PRC... They nuke everything, not only Japan(although most Chinese nukes go to Japan). |
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Post by cardbattler on Apr 14, 2016 18:46:55 GMT
Well, yes. Never see China nuked South Korea but they probably did. Also USA nukes Tokyo back from Midway.
However, I'm quite sure I never got nuked when attacking PRC from the west (Saudi Arabia '60, for example), no idea why.
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Post by TK421 on Apr 14, 2016 18:49:26 GMT
Poor Japanese:'(
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 14, 2016 21:12:55 GMT
Well, yes. Never see China nuked South Korea but they probably did. Also USA nukes Tokyo back from Midway. However, I'm quite sure I never got nuked when attacking PRC from the west (Saudi Arabia '60, for example), no idea why. When I was using PRC, USSR nuked South Korea. |
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Post by Nishikino on Apr 15, 2016 6:20:56 GMT
Poor AI-controlled Marshal Okamura, stuck in Tokyo and doomed to be another casualty of the almighty nuke...
If you're in charge instead, feel free to just move him towards the US and away from the front lines, until you weaken China. Then you can still have him in your army when you take on the Soviets.
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Post by TK421 on Apr 15, 2016 13:41:41 GMT
Yeah, but at that point what can he really do? Once China falls, Russia falls. Then it's basically GG.
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Post by Jeanne D'Arc on Apr 15, 2016 18:40:54 GMT
Yeah, but at that point what can he really do? Once China falls, Russia falls. Then it's basically GG. It's nice to have as many generals survive to the endgame as possible (at least for me). And moving Okamura prevents him from dying in the first few rounds of the campaign, so he can still be of some use afterwards. I'd rather him die from the Soviets in Europe, or the folks in the Middle East, than a Chinese nuke in the face before he fires a single shot. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Apr 15, 2016 18:45:22 GMT
Yeah, but at that point what can he really do? Once China falls, Russia falls. Then it's basically GG. It's nice to have as many generals survive to the endgame as possible (at least for me). And moving Okamura prevents him from dying in the first few rounds of the campaign, so he can still be of some use afterwards. I'd rather him die from the Soviets in Europe, or the folks in the Middle East, than a Chinese nuke in the face before he fires a single shot. Is that what you do to Okamura? I usually: 1. Stay in Tokyo, hold a nuke, then get out, hold another nuke(I rather China nuke Okamura who always gets nuked before joining the battle than Ushijima/Inoue/Toyoda who can make some contribution) 2. Go to America and steal oil fields. |
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