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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 17:20:44 GMT
How would the Soviets stay neutral? Stalin would not allow it. Germany was going to fail in Operation Barbarrosa But the Sovuets guarded Moscow with everything but if they took Moscow they would see Germany's "Power" and stop fighting the other scenario is that the Soviets will never stop fighting and they would be determined to defeat fasicsm and the Germans and fight even better or the Soviets would kill Stalin or a Facist goverment would owerthrow the Communists to ally with the germans so Germany puts all of their forces for the defence of their Empire from USA and UK. The Germans would have big Causalities because they need to land on the island because UK will never capitulate but the Germans need to fight the American bases in UK so maybe Germany would have huge causalities by landing on the british island and if they conquer the island Axis wont rule the World. The british govetment would go into exile and continue the fight with canadian and American support America would destroy Venezuela because they are Fasicst but even the Germans countinue more then half of the world they cannot capture America The american airforce would destroy and german threat USA would protect Quebec and alaska and produce Nuclear tech and Ballistic Missles to weaken the reich without American causalities This honestly seems wrong. The Russians are a fierce and patriotic people. They would fight from Siberia. And with the NKVD, any assassination of Stalin is outlandish. And the thing about US attacking Venezuela didn't happen IRL, and I doubt it would just because of the Russians are weaker. And while the Germans would have casualties landing in GB, having their full might would secure a victory. And eventually the British in exile and America would have to sue for peace. And you realize ballistic missiles weren't invented in WWII, contrary to what WC3 says, right? |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:22:02 GMT
Great response from you all! Can I ask another question? (I think we need a rotation system here as well like the geography thread) What would've happened if Napoleon won at Waterloo? OK I will answee that because I am the Napoleonic expert Napoleon would invade UK Spain and Prussia because they used their main force to destroy Napoleon ( spain was in the coalition invading also ) The Austrian Empire Would Concetrate onthe Ottoman empire with russian support the ottomans woild ally with Napoleon to destroy Austria and Russia ( Austria was heavily weakened by Napoleon) and Napoleon would rule Europe and he would dedeat the Indians and Canada in America with his ally US France would Get Canada Russia and US would get the rest because he wanted to make good relations with them he would set up like the Germany he would bring back Poland unite scandinavia under Danish rule and set up Russia Iberia(Spain + Portugal) UK Italy and etc as puppets even that would take a lot of time |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 17:25:57 GMT
Great response from you all! Can I ask another question? (I think we need a rotation system here as well like the geography thread) What would've happened if Napoleon won at Waterloo? OK I will answee that because I am the Napoleonic expert Napoleon would invade UK Spain and Prussia because they used their main force to destroy Napoleon ( spain was in the coalition invading also ) The Austrian Empire Would Concetrate onthe Ottoman empire with russian support the ottomans woild ally with Napoleon to destroy Austria and Russia ( Austria was heavily weakened by Napoleon) and Napoleon would rule Europe and he would dedeat the Indians and Canada in America with his ally US France would Get Canada Russia and US would get the rest because he wanted to make good relations with them he would set up like the Germany he would bring back Poland unite scandinavia under Danish rule and set up Russia Iberia(Spain + Portugal) UK Italy and etc as puppets even that would take a lot of time You're not THE Napoleonic Expert. There are several of us. And I think Napoleon would turn to Prussia, while sending a slightly smaller force (30,000 men) to Amsterdam/Brussels. Then he would swing around to Austria and Russia's armies, before suing for Peace. Napoleon was a tired old man by 1815, and even considered constitutional monarchy. He was no longer the aggressive commander of the Russian Expedition |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:26:32 GMT
Germany was going to fail in Operation Barbarrosa But the Sovuets guarded Moscow with everything but if they took Moscow they would see Germany's "Power" and stop fighting the other scenario is that the Soviets will never stop fighting and they would be determined to defeat fasicsm and the Germans and fight even better or the Soviets would kill Stalin or a Facist goverment would owerthrow the Communists to ally with the germans so Germany puts all of their forces for the defence of their Empire from USA and UK. The Germans would have big Causalities because they need to land on the island because UK will never capitulate but the Germans need to fight the American bases in UK so maybe Germany would have huge causalities by landing on the british island and if they conquer the island Axis wont rule the World. The british govetment would go into exile and continue the fight with canadian and American support America would destroy Venezuela because they are Fasicst but even the Germans countinue more then half of the world they cannot capture America The american airforce would destroy and german threat USA would protect Quebec and alaska and produce Nuclear tech and Ballistic Missles to weaken the reich without American causalities This honestly seems wrong. The Russians are a fierce and patriotic people. They would fight from Siberia. And with the NKVD, any assassination of Stalin is outlandish. And the thing about US attacking Venezuela didn't happen IRL, and I doubt it would just because of the Russians are weaker. And while the Germans would have casualties landing in GB, having their full might would secure a victory. And eventually the British in exile and America would have to sue for peace. And you realize ballistic missiles weren't invented in WWII, contrary to what WC3 says, right? This would be Impossible that the germans could take Moscow but if they took moscow the Russians would be in a hard position and still the germans would lose ww2 but if the germans didnt attack soviet union but cocnetrate their forces on UK and Africa they would win the war but they would need to attack the soviets because Japan would give up if the germans dont intervine. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 17:27:59 GMT
This honestly seems wrong. The Russians are a fierce and patriotic people. They would fight from Siberia. And with the NKVD, any assassination of Stalin is outlandish. And the thing about US attacking Venezuela didn't happen IRL, and I doubt it would just because of the Russians are weaker. And while the Germans would have casualties landing in GB, having their full might would secure a victory. And eventually the British in exile and America would have to sue for peace. And you realize ballistic missiles weren't invented in WWII, contrary to what WC3 says, right? This would be Impossible that the germans could take Moscow but if they took moscow the Russians would be in a hard position and still the germans would lose ww2 but if the germans didnt attack soviet union but cocnetrate their forces on UK and Africa they would win the war but they would need to attack the soviets because Japan would give up if the germans dont intervine. Japan would not give up, nor was it fighting the Soviets. You are assuming people would surrender much more easily than they really would |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:29:59 GMT
OK I will answee that because I am the Napoleonic expert Napoleon would invade UK Spain and Prussia because they used their main force to destroy Napoleon ( spain was in the coalition invading also ) The Austrian Empire Would Concetrate onthe Ottoman empire with russian support the ottomans woild ally with Napoleon to destroy Austria and Russia ( Austria was heavily weakened by Napoleon) and Napoleon would rule Europe and he would dedeat the Indians and Canada in America with his ally US France would Get Canada Russia and US would get the rest because he wanted to make good relations with them he would set up like the Germany he would bring back Poland unite scandinavia under Danish rule and set up Russia Iberia(Spain + Portugal) UK Italy and etc as puppets even that would take a lot of time You're not THE Napoleonic Expert. There are several of us. And I think Napoleon would turn to Prussia, while sending a slightly smaller force (30,000 men) to Amsterdam/Brussels. Then he would swing around to Austria and Russia's armies, before suing for Peace. Napoleon was a tired old man by 1815, and even considered constitutional monarchy. He was no longer the aggressive commander of the Russian Expedition I didnt say I am the only napoleonic expert but just I know a LOT about him and WHY U HEV TO BI MED ITS ONLY ALTERNT HISTRI ( we need to turn this into a meme) |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:32:28 GMT
Russia would take almost their full force to fight Japan ROC would ally with Russia and kick out Japan out of Manchiria Kore Peking Indonesia and Indochina And USA would invade the Home Islands if the Germans wouldnt intervine
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 17:32:34 GMT
You're not THE Napoleonic Expert. There are several of us. And I think Napoleon would turn to Prussia, while sending a slightly smaller force (30,000 men) to Amsterdam/Brussels. Then he would swing around to Austria and Russia's armies, before suing for Peace. Napoleon was a tired old man by 1815, and even considered constitutional monarchy. He was no longer the aggressive commander of the Russian Expedition I didnt say I am the only napoleonic expert but just I know a LOT about him and WHY U HEV TO BI MED ITS ONLY ALTERNT HISTRI ( we need to turn this into a meme) I'm not mad. I just disagree with you |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:35:58 GMT
I didnt say I am the only napoleonic expert but just I know a LOT about him and WHY U HEV TO BI MED ITS ONLY ALTERNT HISTRI ( we need to turn this into a meme) I'm not mad. I just disagree with you I know you aint mad I just love to say WY U HAVE TO MED ITS ONLY A GEM and ifs alternate history some people think one way some people the other way its like some people think with Glasses prettier some dont |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 6, 2016 17:37:21 GMT
There's only one way the Japanese or the Soviets would ever fully surrender...And that way took until 1945 to fully develop and use.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 17:39:55 GMT
Russia would take almost their full force to fight Japan ROC would ally with Russia and kick out Japan out of Manchiria Kore Peking Indonesia and Indochina And USA would invade the Home Islands if the Germans wouldnt intervine So if the Germans threaten Russia's existence, Russia would turn away? How does that work? |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 17:40:41 GMT
I'm not mad. I just disagree with you I know you aint mad I just love to say WY U HAVE TO MED ITS ONLY A GEM and ifs alternate history some people think one way some people the other way its like some people think with Glasses prettier some dont Although some things are clearly impossible, even in Alt History |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:42:43 GMT
Russia would take almost their full force to fight Japan ROC would ally with Russia and kick out Japan out of Manchiria Kore Peking Indonesia and Indochina And USA would invade the Home Islands if the Germans wouldnt intervine So if the Germans threaten Russia's existence, Russia would turn away? How does that work? I was talking about the how germans could wont WW2 the dont amger Russia and just figt UK in Africa and Mainland |
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Post by Washington on Aug 6, 2016 17:45:02 GMT
Well the Germans could push them to Siberia, but they knew they couldn't pursue them due to issues such as weather and terrain. Furthermore, Barbarossa wa only meant for europe and not for USSR asia
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:45:54 GMT
I know you aint mad I just love to say WY U HAVE TO MED ITS ONLY A GEM and ifs alternate history some people think one way some people the other way its like some people think with Glasses prettier some dont Although some things are clearly impossible, even in Alt History But bassicly if the germans took Moscow the russians would crush them and germany would need to retreat because the germans would need to a huge force to get Moscow so if the russians destroy a huge chunk of the German Russuia would faster defeat the Germans and would reach Berlin faster can we agree with this?? |
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