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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 16:25:17 GMT
I love history and I would like just to chat about history with other people.
Also Alternate history is cool and just to say I like and know more about moder history I am the best at the Napoleonic Wars and I also know a lot about Napoleon himself also I know more about WW2 than WW1 and We are just gonna talk about the desicions they madr talk about them do some questions about history also I would like to first talk about the villans and heroes of WW2 in WW1 I have watched a youtube channel The Great War to learn about Tito Musolini Hitler and etc in WW1
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 6, 2016 16:37:49 GMT
First alternate history question.
What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2?
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 16:39:05 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? USSR would resist from the East for a while, and the US would join the war, but get boiled down in a massive slugfest after the Soviets fall |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 6, 2016 16:45:14 GMT
Personally, I know a lot about subjects post Napoleonic Wars, while i typically know the basics of Ancient civilizations, Colonial Era, Medieval Times and Napoleonic Times. Personal favorite time period id the Victorian Era, for the following reasons:
A. Includes so many interesting wars, Oriental Crisis, American Civil War, Meiji Restoration, Paraguayan War, Taiping Rebellion, Crimean War, Austro-Prussian War, Franco-Prussian War, Carlist Wars, War of the Pacific, Franco-Mexican War, I could go on, but I think you get the point.
B. The importance of the era. The history might be interesting, but its effects are even more profound. The era resulted in increased demands for liberalism and nationalist sentiments arose across the world in areas like Germany, Ethiopia, Japan and America. The European colonization of Africa and much of Asia resulted in the spread of European languages and resulted in African and Asian resources being brought to Europe to fuel European industry. It resulted in the creation of a multitude of new states, including Greece, Belgium and Romania. The colonial tensions were a major reason as to why WWI started.
C. The inspiring and interesting figures. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dom Pedro II, Emperor Meiji, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Otto von Bismarck, Muhammed Ali, again, I could keep going.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 6, 2016 16:48:06 GMT
Personally, I know a lot about subjects post Napoleonic Wars, while i typically know the basics of Ancient civilizations, Colonial Era, Medieval Times and Napoleonic Times. Personal favorite time period id the Victorian Era, for the following reasons: A. Includes so many interesting wars, Oriental Crisis, American Civil War, Meiji Restoration, Paraguayan War, Taiping Rebellion, Crimean War, Austro-Prussian War, Franco-Prussian War, Carlist Wars, War of the Pacific, Franco-Mexican War, I could go on, but I think you get the point. B. The importance of the era. The history might be interesting, but its effects are even more profound. The era resulted in increased demands for liberalism and nationalist sentiments arose across the world in areas like Germany, Ethiopia, Japan and America. The European colonization of Africa and much of Asia resulted in the spread of European languages and resulted in African and Asian resources being brought to Europe to fuel European industry. It resulted in the creation of a multitude of new states, including Greece, Belgium and Romania. The colonial tensions were a major reason as to why WWI started. C. The inspiring and interesting figures. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dom Pedro II, Emperor Meiji, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Otto von Bismarck, Muhammed Ali, again, I could keep going. is Muhammad Ali the founder of Pakistan or some other one? |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 6, 2016 16:50:45 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? USSR falls, despite American and British aid. The war in Africa turns into a stalemate for a while until the Afrika Corps is finally able to break through Montgomery's forces into Cairo. The Battle of Britain now continues again, and after numerous humiliating British defeats, the British sign an armistice with Germany. A formal peace treaty is signed in Berlin, giving Italy Egypt, Sudan, Malta and British Somaliland, Japan Malaysia, Hong Kong and Burma and Germany the channel Islands, Falklands, Gibraltar and Cyprus. The war continues on the pacific islands and on the water for a few years until both sides decide to sign an armistice. It states that America cannot intervene in the Old World, and Germany cannot intervene in the New World. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 16:50:51 GMT
Personally, I know a lot about subjects post Napoleonic Wars, while i typically know the basics of Ancient civilizations, Colonial Era, Medieval Times and Napoleonic Times. Personal favorite time period id the Victorian Era, for the following reasons: A. Includes so many interesting wars, Oriental Crisis, American Civil War, Meiji Restoration, Paraguayan War, Taiping Rebellion, Crimean War, Austro-Prussian War, Franco-Prussian War, Carlist Wars, War of the Pacific, Franco-Mexican War, I could go on, but I think you get the point. B. The importance of the era. The history might be interesting, but its effects are even more profound. The era resulted in increased demands for liberalism and nationalist sentiments arose across the world in areas like Germany, Ethiopia, Japan and America. The European colonization of Africa and much of Asia resulted in the spread of European languages and resulted in African and Asian resources being brought to Europe to fuel European industry. It resulted in the creation of a multitude of new states, including Greece, Belgium and Romania. The colonial tensions were a major reason as to why WWI started. C. The inspiring and interesting figures. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dom Pedro II, Emperor Meiji, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Otto von Bismarck, Muhammed Ali, again, I could keep going. Personal Favourite era: Early Modern Era: When Europe became less depressing, units improve, and the Stately Quadrille. |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 16:53:40 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? Even dough that would be Impossible but its alternate history tge sovuets would stay neytral becayse the germans had the democratic probelm usa and uk wanres to invade so hitler eanted to take out rhe soviets until the peace so he couod concetrate on USA and US bassicly Germany would win the WW2 and so they would help japan to fend off the American fleet and Africa woukd be Axis Terretorry |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 6, 2016 16:57:01 GMT
Personally, I know a lot about subjects post Napoleonic Wars, while i typically know the basics of Ancient civilizations, Colonial Era, Medieval Times and Napoleonic Times. Personal favorite time period id the Victorian Era, for the following reasons: A. Includes so many interesting wars, Oriental Crisis, American Civil War, Meiji Restoration, Paraguayan War, Taiping Rebellion, Crimean War, Austro-Prussian War, Franco-Prussian War, Carlist Wars, War of the Pacific, Franco-Mexican War, I could go on, but I think you get the point. B. The importance of the era. The history might be interesting, but its effects are even more profound. The era resulted in increased demands for liberalism and nationalist sentiments arose across the world in areas like Germany, Ethiopia, Japan and America. The European colonization of Africa and much of Asia resulted in the spread of European languages and resulted in African and Asian resources being brought to Europe to fuel European industry. It resulted in the creation of a multitude of new states, including Greece, Belgium and Romania. The colonial tensions were a major reason as to why WWI started. C. The inspiring and interesting figures. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dom Pedro II, Emperor Meiji, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Otto von Bismarck, Muhammed Ali, again, I could keep going. is Muhammad Ali the founder of Pakistan or some other one? He's the Albanian who took over Egypt during the Napoleonic Wars, and after the wars went onto conquer the Sudan, Eritrea, Crete and the Hejaz. He later declared war on the Ottomans, Egypt's overlords, in 1832, securing all of the Levant and some of Cilicia. After the First Turco-Egyptian War, Ali's Egypt began a period of decline, with multiple (Failed) revolts in the Levant and then a Second Turco-Egyptian War in 1839 (Also known as the Oriental Crisis). The Ottomans wanted to reassert dominance over Egypt and to retake the Levant. Following multiple Turkish defeats to the Egyptians, the European powers decided to get involved against Egypt. Following a blockade by the Allies and the occupation of Beirut and Alexandria, Muhammed Ali agreed to terms presented to him by the British. Ali would give the Hejaz, Crete and the Levant to the Ottomans, as well as become a loyal satellite of the Ottomans, and in return Ali's dynasty would remain in power of Egypt. He accepted and that put an end to Ali's military conquests. |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 16:57:24 GMT
Okay I have a questions what happens to the maginot line I know it was a failure but is it just ruins?
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 6, 2016 16:57:26 GMT
Great response from you all! Can I ask another question? (I think we need a rotation system here as well like the geography thread)
What would've happened if Napoleon won at Waterloo?
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 16:58:33 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? Even dough that would be Impossible but its alternate history tge sovuets would stay neytral becayse the germans had the democratic probelm usa and uk wanres to invade so hitler eanted to take out rhe soviets until the peace so he couod concetrate on USA and US bassicly Germany would win the WW2 and so they would help japan to fend off the American fleet and Africa woukd be Axis Terretorry How would the Soviets stay neutral? Stalin would not allow it. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Aug 6, 2016 16:59:19 GMT
Okay I have a questions what happens to the maginot line I know it was a failure but is it just ruins? nothing much, a few defenses are preserved, rest are ruined |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 17:06:46 GMT
is Muhammad Ali the founder of Pakistan or some other one? He's the Albanian who took over Egypt during the Napoleonic Wars, and after the wars went onto conquer the Sudan, Eritrea, Crete and the Hejaz. He later declared war on the Ottomans, Egypt's overlords, in 1832, securing all of the Levant and some of Cilicia. After the First Turco-Egyptian War, Ali's Egypt began a period of decline, with multiple (Failed) revolts in the Levant and then a Second Turco-Egyptian War in 1839 (Also known as the Oriental Crisis). The Ottomans wanted to reassert dominance over Egypt and to retake the Levant. Following multiple Turkish defeats to the Egyptians, the European powers decided to get involved against Egypt. Following a blockade by the Allies and the occupation of Beirut and Alexandria, Muhammed Ali agreed to terms presented to him by the British. Ali would give the Hejaz, Crete and the Levant to the Ottomans, as well as become a loyal satellite of the Ottomans, and in return Ali's dynasty would remain in power of Egypt. He accepted and that put an end to Ali's military conquests. Second-best Albanian Gen IMO. |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 17:14:24 GMT
Even dough that would be Impossible but its alternate history tge sovuets would stay neytral becayse the germans had the democratic probelm usa and uk wanres to invade so hitler eanted to take out rhe soviets until the peace so he couod concetrate on USA and US bassicly Germany would win the WW2 and so they would help japan to fend off the American fleet and Africa woukd be Axis Terretorry How would the Soviets stay neutral? Stalin would not allow it. Germany was going to fail in Operation Barbarrosa But the Sovuets guarded Moscow with everything but if they took Moscow they would see Germany's "Power" and stop fighting the other scenario is that the Soviets will never stop fighting and they would be determined to defeat fasicsm and the Germans and fight even better or the Soviets would kill Stalin or a Facist goverment would owerthrow the Communists to ally with the germans so Germany puts all of their forces for the defence of their Empire from USA and UK. The Germans would have big Causalities because they need to land on the island because UK will never capitulate but the Germans need to fight the American bases in UK so maybe Germany would have huge causalities by landing on the british island and if they conquer the island Axis wont rule the World. The british govetment would go into exile and continue the fight with canadian and American support America would destroy Venezuela because they are Fasicst but even the Germans countinue more then half of the world they cannot capture America The american airforce would destroy and german threat USA would protect Quebec and alaska and produce Nuclear tech and Ballistic Missles to weaken the reich without American causalities |
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