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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 18:27:10 GMT
Ok because I am a little better can we talk about What if Gavrilo Princip Missed Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife bassicly What if the Archduke wasnt assasinated
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 18:33:36 GMT
Ok because I am a little better can we talk about What if Gavrilo Princip Missed Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife bassicly What if the Archduke wasnt assasinated WWI wouldn't have started quite so soon, although tensions in the Balkans would've erupted eventually. Possibly a spat involving the Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks, or Ottomans. Maybe rebels somewhere in Austria. WWI was an inevitable, given the global alliances, the tensions in the Balkans,, and the French Revanchism |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 18:34:27 GMT
Ok because I am a little better can we talk about What if Gavrilo Princip Missed Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife bassicly What if the Archduke wasnt assasinated First Its funny quoting your own thread and second would the relations with serbia be worse and would the danube confederation been set up ( that was franz's plan ) |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Aug 6, 2016 19:10:28 GMT
Ok because I am a little better can we talk about What if Gavrilo Princip Missed Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife bassicly What if the Archduke wasnt assasinated First Its funny quoting your own thread and second would the relations with serbia be worse and would the danube confederation been set up ( that was franz's plan ) Well, if we go by when Emperor Franz Joseph died in 1916, then Franz Ferdinand wouldve gained the throne in 1916 and begun implementing his plan for a Confederation of the Danube. I believe the Diarchy of Austria-Hungary wouldve become the Triarchy of the Danubian Confederation, with the ruling monarch being the Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary, and King of Slavonia (Slavic areas of the Empire). Their may be separate monarchs for the separate regions, however, following the transformation, so there could be three different monarchs, with the Austrian emperor being the Head of State of the whole country. Following this transition, all regions of the empire may want their own kingdom or Principality within the Confederation, however, which leads to two outcomes: 1. These divides still results in ethnic tensions, resulting in either the assassination of Franz and the First World War, or the dissolution of the Empire entirely. 2. These regions do gain their own kingdoms, which could lead to the following Kingdoms within the empire: -Austria -Croatia -Hungary -Transylvania -Banatia or Slavonia -Dalmatia The Empire continues on to become one of the most culturally accepting countries in Europe, and a juggernaut in European politics. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Aug 6, 2016 19:12:29 GMT
First Its funny quoting your own thread and second would the relations with serbia be worse and would the danube confederation been set up ( that was franz's plan ) Well, if we go by when Emperor Franz Joseph died in 1916, then Franz Ferdinand wouldve gained the throne in 1916 and begun implementing his plan for a Confederation of the Danube. I believe the Diarchy of Austria-Hungary wouldve become the Triarchy of the Danubian Confederation, with the ruling monarch being the Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary, and King of Slavonia (Slavic areas of the Empire). Their may be separate monarchs for the separate regions, however, following the transformation, so there could be three different monarchs, with the Austrian emperor being the Head of State of the whole country. Following this transition, all regions of the empire may want their own kingdom or Principality within the Confederation, however, which leads to two outcomes: 1. These divides still results in ethnic tensions, resulting in either the assassination of Franz and the First World War, or the dissolution of the Empire entirely. 2. These regions do gain their own kingdoms, which could lead to the following Kingdoms within the empire: -Austria -Croatia -Hungary -Transylvania -Banatia or Slavonia -Dalmatia The Empire continues on to become one of the most culturally accepting countries in Europe, and a juggernaut in European politics. And either option sees Klemens von Metternich rolling in his grave |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 19:17:17 GMT
And I wanted to ask because I didnt learn this why were there ( the next part is bosnian names but you can get them) Ashabije Osmanlije... etc instead of being just the islamic state and who were the ottomans ( osmanlije) and why have the ototmans ashabije failed and collapsed
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Post by Moreau on Aug 6, 2016 19:32:09 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? They would fight on no matter what because they knew what Hitler would do to those he considered inferior |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 19:38:12 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? They would fight on no matter what because they knew what Hitler would do to those he considered inferior That is why Slavs are special when thinga get tense we hold together to the last breath |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 19:43:52 GMT
They would fight on no matter what because they knew what Hitler would do to those he considered inferior That is why Slavs are special when thinga get tense we hold together to the last breath And the Albanians. Just look at Skanderbeg. It's the reason I choose to use his name instead of Bohdan Khmelnytsky. |
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Post by Moreau on Aug 6, 2016 19:50:01 GMT
The Ottomans had a multicultural empire with mixed religions until the Young turks screwed up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:55:31 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? Germans were few miles from Moscow, they even could see it from their camp, so I guess most of USSR would fall with that, althru there were big forces in Siberia too, so there would had been a long winter. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 19:57:20 GMT
First alternate history question. What would've happened if Germany got Moscow in time in ww2? Germans were few miles from Moscow, they even could see it from their camp, so I guess most of USSR would fall with that, althru there were big forces in Siberia too, so there would had been a long winter. I'd expect them to meet a certain friend of the Soviets called 'massive guerrilla resistance' in Sybir. |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 19:59:12 GMT
Germans were few miles from Moscow, they even could see it from their camp, so I guess most of USSR would fall with that, althru there were big forces in Siberia too, so there would had been a long winter. I'd expect them to meet a certain friend of the Soviets called 'massive guerrilla resistance' in Sybir. A small soviet friend called " massive guirrela ressistance " hehe did anyvody get it |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Aug 6, 2016 20:01:09 GMT
I'd expect them to meet a certain friend of the Soviets called 'massive guerrilla resistance' in Sybir. A small soviet friend called " massive guirrela ressistance " hehe did anyvody get it And I forgot about the other friend, a Mr. 'Severe Attrition'. |
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Post by Tito on Aug 6, 2016 20:13:40 GMT
The Ottomans had a multicultural empire with mixed religions until the Young turks screwed up Yugoslavia was the same but they hold on until mine death |
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