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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 13:38:45 GMT
Funny fact none of Russian leaders has been a Russian Hell even Putin is not Russian, he is Lithuanian While it's true a number of Russian leaders were not Russian (Stalin and Catherine the Great come to mind) a lot of them where. Ivan the Terrible was born near Moscow, Putin was born in Leningrad/Saint Petersburg and Lenin was also born somewhere in Russia, and these are just a few examples. They were born there, but they aren't Russian Even Putin is not Russian. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 13:41:14 GMT
While it's true a number of Russian leaders were not Russian (Stalin and Catherine the Great come to mind) a lot of them where. Ivan the Terrible was born near Moscow, Putin was born in Leningrad/Saint Petersburg and Lenin was also born somewhere in Russia, and these are just a few examples. I think he means ancestry. But I don't think anyone wants to check Putin's DNA and give an unbiased answer for his ancestry... You don't need to go deep Putin's mother is Lithuanian |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 13:47:36 GMT
I think he means ancestry. But I don't think anyone wants to check Putin's DNA and give an unbiased answer for his ancestry... If you go far enough back in ancestry pretty much no one (from any country) is from that country. Russia started as a Viking colony or something like that so by that logic there is no such thing as Russian. It would also mean I'm Swedish because I'm descended from English settlers who are (very likely) descended from Vikings. It would also mean many many people are Mongolian because millions of people have Mongol ancestry. Your nationality is is not nessasarily decided by your ansetry, Putin is clearly Russian born in Russian and while yes he prossibly has Baltic ansetry that does not make him Lithuanian. Russia has nothing to do with Scandinavians, Russia (tsardom of Moscow) was east Baltic tribe lands, which in times of Ivan Grozny (already told about name) cut its bounds with Baltics and put Kazakhs in high standing places, to make him absolute king.... Nowadays Russia consists from over 400 nationalities, that mix is called Russian... Ask Jews how your nationality is decided, definitely not by place where you are born... |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 3, 2016 13:48:45 GMT
If you go far enough back in ancestry pretty much no one (from any country) is from that country. Russia started as a Viking colony or something like that so by that logic there is no such thing as Russian. It would also mean I'm Swedish because I'm descended from English settlers who are (very likely) descended from Vikings. It would also mean many many people are Mongolian because millions of people have Mongol ancestry. Your nationality is is not nessasarily decided by your ansetry, Putin is clearly Russian born in Russian and while yes he prossibly has Baltic ansetry that does not make him Lithuanian. Russia has nothing to do with Scandinavians, Russia (tsardom of Moscow) was east Baltic tribe lands, which in times of Ivan Grozny (already told about name) cut its bounds with Baltics and put Kazakhs in high standing places, to make him absolute king.... Nowadays Russia consists from over 400 nationalities, that mix is called Russian... Ask Jews how your nationality is decided, definitely not by place where you are born... Can we get back on topic or move this nao? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 13:54:36 GMT
Russia has nothing to do with Scandinavians, Russia (tsardom of Moscow) was east Baltic tribe lands, which in times of Ivan Grozny (already told about name) cut its bounds with Baltics and put Kazakhs in high standing places, to make him absolute king.... Nowadays Russia consists from over 400 nationalities, that mix is called Russian... Ask Jews how your nationality is decided, definitely not by place where you are born... Can we get back on topic or move this nao? Before it goes to flame war let's get back to topic |
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Post by Desophaeus on Sept 3, 2016 19:40:26 GMT
Haiti? It's just our banana republic giving us some minor trouble. It's not like it's a big deal or anything. - Napoleon.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 3, 2016 19:43:09 GMT
Battery at 1%? Who cares? After this dies I will obviously sleep  - Govorov 2k16 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 19:44:48 GMT
"Personally after nearly everyone here has starved and died, I think I'll become one of the best generals." ~Leonid Govorov at the siege of Leningrad
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Sept 3, 2016 19:46:55 GMT
"Personally after nearly everyone here has starved and died, I think I'll become one of the best generals." ~Leonid Govorov at the siege of Leningrad Warning; Leningrad ahead, come at your own risk Meanwhile in Stalingrad; Warning; this place is legit hell, enter at own risk, exit will be given by Germans |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 19:52:24 GMT
"We've nearly destroyed both Leningrad and Stalingrad, surely the Soviets morale we'll go down." ~ Philip II of Macedon"They almost destroyed 2 of our cities, we best be destroying 10 of theirs." ~@communist |
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Post by Tito on Sept 3, 2016 20:11:51 GMT
Lest Invade Russia in Winter and just focus on taking Moscow I am sure everything will be fine- Napoleon
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 3, 2016 20:14:03 GMT
"Personally after nearly everyone here has starved and died, I think I'll become one of the best generals." ~Leonid Govorov at the siege of Leningrad And surrendercaptured. *cough*Vlasov*cough* |
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Post by Tito on Sept 3, 2016 20:21:08 GMT
Your stone face on Rushmore aint nothing,check my phitis now that is real muggin- Frederick Douglass to Thomas Jefferson in ERB
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Post by Tito on Sept 3, 2016 20:22:29 GMT
I participated in a broken system that I hated but I needed to keep my financiul status situated- Thomas Jefferson
5 US Presidents have visited indians especially Andrew Jackson he visited them a lot- John Oliver
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Sept 3, 2016 20:52:47 GMT
American (A) to Hungarian Ambassador (H) in WW2:
A: So you're from Hungary, yes?
H: Yes.
A: Who's your leader then?
H: Admiral Miklós Horthy.
A: He's an admiral, is he? So I assume your nation must have a large fleet?
H: No sir, it's landlocked.
A: So... he's an admiral with no fleet, then. What else is he known by?
H: He's also known as the Regent of Hungary.
A: Ah, I see. How old is the King then?
H: We have no king, sir.
A: So the regent is just a title- nevermind. I heard your nation declared war on us recently. Is that true?
H: Yes.
A: Does your nation treat the United States as an enemy, then?
H: No. Romania is our enemy, not your nation.
A: So, is that Romania on our side?
H: They are on our side, sir.
A: Then why do you fight with them, when they are on your side?
H: To regain lost land.
A: So.... your nation has an admiral and regent, but neither fleet nor king, and you fight with your ally? How do you european nations work with this kind of politics?
H: You'll never understand us Europeans, sir.
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- Govorov 2k16 
