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Post by rjs on Apr 15, 2018 22:48:05 GMT
The members who analysed Berthier deemed him to have good potential, meaning he is good when he reaches his true, full might. He is not that powerful right off the bat, he costs medals & you need to train him a LOT to reach his full potential. As his shortcomings are quite noticeable, he is downgraded slightly. _______________________________________________ Edit: The above only mentions Berthier's PERSONAL shortcomings. If you compare him to other gens, there will be more comparisons to make. For example, natural output. Berthier's natural output is not as good as one such as Golitsyn (in terms of stars & skills BEFORE training). Soo,as I read betwix the lines,you say he aint a GOD from the git go,unless you spend medals to make him better as with any general. He has good atributes true,but not Godlike just mediocre. |
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Post by berthierisnumber1 on Apr 16, 2018 3:08:06 GMT
It only took me a week to get him max in cavalry and got the drum,( bit the first two chapter with Sophia and Golytsin). I don't think he took a long time.
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Post by berthierisnumber1 on Apr 16, 2018 3:09:07 GMT
I do agree that Golytsin first appear to be better than him but I think it is pretty easy to get the general trained compared to the others.
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Post by berthierisnumber1 on Apr 16, 2018 3:09:47 GMT
In this is game. Sorry I am wasting this much space
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Post by berthierisnumber1 on Apr 17, 2018 4:06:31 GMT
where is the analysis for Duke of Wilmington, Washington, and Dear born
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Post by berthierisnumber1 on Apr 17, 2018 4:20:14 GMT
Oudinout has three in training, dobeln on the other hand has zero. In addition, you are going to buy the drum in later game so Oudiout is clearly better than Dobeln?  |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Apr 17, 2018 13:21:55 GMT
Oudinout has three in training, dobeln on the other hand has zero. In addition, you are going to buy the drum in later game so Oudiout is clearly better than Dobeln? Well, the given analyses are based on the member's opinion of the gen & what he believes is useful/useless/less useful. You don't have to follow it, you can give your own analyses. |
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Post by sharken on May 1, 2018 14:01:20 GMT
on my third attempt at ew4 cos I kept buying useless generals without checking this forum. I've 677 medals, completed Europe 1778 in 58 turns, 200 yrs, and I've completed campaign up to, not incl. 3 emps. question is do I buy Dumouriez or wait for tier 2. I've received no princess thus far. any advice appreciated. cheers
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Post by berthierisnumber1 on May 2, 2018 23:21:32 GMT
tier 2, you can past most of the first two chapters without generals easily( not counting the last two level of which chapter)
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Post by Charlemagne on Jul 28, 2018 14:28:07 GMT
Patience. Agha's time shall come. That it will,that it will... |
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Post by Charlemagne on Jul 28, 2018 14:34:46 GMT
Archduke Charles Infantry: ***** Cavalry: * Artillery: *** Fort: ** Trade: *** Move: *** Training: ***** Nobleman Banner Strike Bugle Bugle, 5* Infantry, and 5* Training...where else do I see these features? Suvorov, and even he ain't that good. Bugle, Strike, and Banner...Sakurako. Nobleman? Worthless skill. Everything he does, others do better. Not recommeded 1. Maria is: A: a princess B: a human killer C: awful; inferior to kahia |
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Post by Charlemagne on Jul 28, 2018 14:38:54 GMT
Maria is:
1. a princess
2. a human killer
3. inferior to kahia
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Post by Charlemagne on Jul 28, 2018 14:44:58 GMT
Dombrowski is very inferior to radetzky. Desaix is better than sakurako but both suck. Wellesley is a nice infantry-business general. Suvorov and Victoria are great combat generals.
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Jul 29, 2018 16:39:02 GMT
Here, I will examine every single one of EW4's 208 Generals. This will be formatted like Erich von Manstein 's WC3 General Analysis. I Will try to have 10 Generals done every week, so this will hopefully be done by April. Scale: A+: The best there is! A must-buy.A: Great general. Great one for the squad
A-: Can hold down a spot in the final lineup reasonably wellB+: The average Joe can drag him across the finish line, but he'll be beaten-up.
B: Might be usable in the end for a good player
B-: The best players can use him in endgameC+: A Master can use him until getting Lan and Victoria
C: Get rid of him in midgame
C-: Can be dragged into Midgame, but will suffer.D+: Fit for Early Game Only, and barely that
D: A beginner will survive buying himD-: Has some redeeming quality, but is still a pile of excrement
F: Just a face to put on a unit. No dealTier 3 will be rated on a 1-5 scale. 1: DON'T2: Good General, but not a good buy for emblems3: If you insist, you can get him4: If you buy Emblems, GET HIM
5: The single best IAP. This will only be given to one General, as only one can be THE BEST.Tier-1 Trainers will have an FT rating, shown by their color. A blue one is the cheapest trainer for the field A green one has a good price, or enough combat ability to justify their cost A red one is too expensive TOC: A+
Lan
Isabela
Victoria
A
Golitsyn
Sophia
A-
Kate
Savary
Berthier
Dobeln
Sulkowski
B+
Raevsky
Yermolov
Dumouriez
Oudinot
Sakurako
Kosciusko
B
Jourdan
Ney
Marmont
B-
Wittgenstein
Sokolnicki
Junot
Grouchy
Blasius
Gazan
C+
Brueys
Joubert
Johann I
C
Fatimah
Serurier
Lusignan
C-
Lefebvre
Mortier
Bernadotte
Wrede
Perignon
Gouvion
D+
Jerome
Drouot
Maria
Nansouty
Sebastiani
MacDonald
D
Tormasov
Bouvet
Augereau
Merveldt
Bachmann
Klenau
Villeneuve
Kozietulski
Godebski
D-
Bennigsen
Arrighi
Vandamme
Mehmet A
Falsen
Fischer
Kollowrat
Kienmayer
Frederick
Quosdanovih
Melas
Leiberich
Weyrother
Bubna
Wurmser
Exelmans
Gerard
F
Murad
Kahia
Konopka
Latour
Deroy
Davidovich
Hotze
Rosenberg
Heinrich XV
Vecsey
Archduke J
Agha
Bruix
Claude
Cosmao
Platov
IAPs: 5:
The one and only Davout4:
Dombrowski
Poniatowski
3:
Murat
Moreau
Lannes
Radetzky
Kutuzov
2:
Soult
Treville
Lasalle
Massena
Suvorov
1:
Alexander I
Desaix
Suchet
Napoleon
Archduke C.
Barclay
Bagration
FT Trainers Blue:Latour (Infantry)Agha (Cavalry)Jerome (Business)Green:Quosdanovih (Cavalry)Dumouriez (Cavalry)Gazan (Artillery) Red:
Falsen (Navy)
Fischer (Navy)
Deroy (Infantry)
Wurmser (Fort)
To clarify, if I didn't denote a Category, the General has no stars at all in it. Note: This assumes slight s/l, little Kamikaze work, and a 6-slot lineup when discussing IAPs, and considers both 4 and 6 slots for non-IAPs Why is Suvorov 2? I could say Dombrowski is inferior to lan! Just saying, not everybody can get Victoria. Just because they are inferior to somebody (namely a princess) does not make them bad! I say murat is inferior to lan. Okay, now he is at the bottom of the analysis! Seriously! Tell me a replacement to Suvorov who does, like, 70 damage every time you attack other than Victoria. You do not just brush away generals who do 70 damage. Also if you say lannes is good, he is inferior to Victoria in infantry and lan in cavalry. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 1, 2018 3:23:20 GMT
1. Suvorov can be replaced by non iap generals. Dobeln deals slightly less damage than him. Give Oudinot a snare drum, and he will be suvorov.
2. Suvorov lacks leadership. You can easily kill him with cavarly. I once sent my davout with a snare drum to kill Suvorov. He didn’t even struggle slightly.
3. Suvorov lacks assualt art, so his output isn’t anything special.
4. Get Lannes. Seriously. Aside from artillery, fighting Lannes is just really painful. Seriously, he killed all of my generals in the Battle of Austerlitz. If you can’t get lannes, get Pontiawski. He can’t get surrounded due to leadership, mass fire keeps him punching, geography allows for hybrid potential, and assualt art forces you to try to kill him as fast as possible before it triggers.
I agree though with Dombroski. I don’t really so whats so good about him. He is just Golitsyn with Banner and Defense art. If you end up with emblems, don’t buy anyone aside from Pontiawski, Davout, and Lannes. You can suck it up and use Kosczuisko instead of Dearborn, and Lannes is much better than Washington. Savary can substitute Murat as well. And also as for Dearborn, Washington, Wellesley, and Suvorov, why would you waste your precious emblems on an infantry general?
With iap cavarly, Lan is better than every single one, with the exception of Davout and Pontiawski.
With artillery, sophia and isabella are better than everyone with the exception of Davout.
Navy: only worth considering Pontiawski (all round hybrid) or nelson (strong artillery good navy). Jervis is really slow and has no land ability. Treville is weaker than Kate.
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