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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 1, 2018 3:30:44 GMT
Oh yeah, and trust me you can unlock victoria. But you will have to have strong generals. I used a cavarly general with lvl 5 trade on the one stacked heavy cavarly near vienna, I used Davout, but you can get away with using someone such as Golitsyn as long as you have war horse. Firstly I traded food and steel till I could build a good enough stable to spawn Lan on a double guards cavarly. I sent isabella south into italy. I just kept on trying till I made it by having adequate funds. By lvl 31. Just keep trying and upgrading your generals till you can do it.
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 5, 2018 4:47:38 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 5, 2018 5:09:11 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general
Suvorov is better than lannes. Leadership is not good for infantry cause you are not gonna advance him strait into their army. Suvorov has much higher damage. Even Dobeln and Oudinot do more damage. He wasnt any threat in battle of austerlitz, and he was a bigger threat in battle of eylau. Dearborn's movement makes him better than lannes. Geography does nothing for infantry and i would go for victoria.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 5, 2018 14:27:36 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general Nah Davout got me really far. I am almost done with the Rise of America campaign as Im on unified north america. Its just that he can’t do everything by himself. But he outdoes everyone on artillery, even isabella with his assualt art. On cavarly, he is like murat without spy, and slightly weaker than Lan, but much faster. True. But a navy general isn’t really necessary. If you have the extra slots, I advise using kate for navy and koscuisko plus economic code for economic. Jervis is meh on navy. I would just use kate honestly, |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 5, 2018 14:33:58 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general Suvorov is better than lannes. Leadership is not good for infantry cause you are not gonna advance him strait into their army. Suvorov has much higher damage. Even Dobeln and Oudinot do more damage. He wasnt any threat in battle of austerlitz, and he was a bigger threat in battle of eylau. Dearborn's movement makes him better than lannes. Geography does nothing for infantry and i would go for victoria. I agree everyone has their own opinions. I personally don’t see fighting suvorov as a threat at all, because you can encircle him, and then rumor him with cavarly. His output is not massive by any means. And dearborn lacks mass fire, so I feel as though you can honestly just use Kosciusko other than him. Leadership is a great skill for infantry. All the time, whenever a cavarly unit attacks victoria, I have to retreat her due to the moral loss. This will never happen with Lannes. Geography is not a skill for infantry. However, it makes Lannes be capable of being a good hybrid, as you can use him on cavarly, and his leadership, assualt art, and geography skills will triggle. You can also use him on artillery, and he will be quite good. Both dearborn and suvorov do not possess these qualities. Suvorov’s damage isn’t that great. Lannes’ maximum damage is higher due to assualt art. The only desirable qualities suvorov possesses is his 5 star training, but washington also has that. If you have 6 emblems, you should really go for Poniatowski |
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 5, 2018 15:23:04 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general.
Suvorov is better than lannes. Leadership is not good for infantry cause you are not gonna advance him strait into their army. Suvorov has much higher damage. Even Dobeln and Oudinot do more damage. He wasnt any threat in battle of austerlitz, and he was a bigger threat in battle of eylau. Dearborn's movement makes him better than lannes. Geography does nothing for infantry and i would go for victoria. I agree everyone has their own opinions. I personally don’t see fighting suvorov as a threat at all, because you can encircle him, and then rumor him with cavarly. His output is not massive by any means. And dearborn lacks mass fire, so I feel as though you can honestly just use Kosciusko other than him. Leadership is a great skill for infantry. All the time, whenever a cavarly unit attacks victoria, I have to retreat her due to the moral loss. This will never happen with Lannes.
Geography is not a skill for infantry. However, it makes Lannes be capable of being a good hybrid, as you can use him on cavarly, and his leadership, assualt art, and geography skills will triggle. You can also use him on artillery, and he will be quite good. Both dearborn and suvorov do not possess these qualities. Suvorov’s damage isn’t that great. Lannes’ maximum damage is higher due to assualt art. The only desirable qualities suvorov possesses is his 5 star training, but washington also has that. If you have 6 emblems, you should really go for Poniatowski.
That's in grenadiers! In guards his average damage is 70-80. Dearborn has formation which doesn't only add 1 max damage, but there is a chance to add 5 damage. Lannes also lacks bugle, which is a handy skill that cannot be fixed. Suvorov's average damage encircled in guards is 60. Wellesley is a great infantry/business general who has economic master and bugle. Washington also has economic master, leadership and mass fire to defend cities. You also cannot just rate davout the best in 2 different units. Isabela and Moreau are better and on cavalry many are better.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 5, 2018 17:25:36 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general. Suvorov is better than lannes. Leadership is not good for infantry cause you are not gonna advance him strait into their army. Suvorov has much higher damage. Even Dobeln and Oudinot do more damage. He wasnt any threat in battle of austerlitz, and he was a bigger threat in battle of eylau. Dearborn's movement makes him better than lannes. Geography does nothing for infantry and i would go for victoria. I agree everyone has their own opinions. I personally don’t see fighting suvorov as a threat at all, because you can encircle him, and then rumor him with cavarly. His output is not massive by any means. And dearborn lacks mass fire, so I feel as though you can honestly just use Kosciusko other than him. Leadership is a great skill for infantry. All the time, whenever a cavarly unit attacks victoria, I have to retreat her due to the moral loss. This will never happen with Lannes. Geography is not a skill for infantry. However, it makes Lannes be capable of being a good hybrid, as you can use him on cavarly, and his leadership, assualt art, and geography skills will triggle. You can also use him on artillery, and he will be quite good. Both dearborn and suvorov do not possess these qualities. Suvorov’s damage isn’t that great. Lannes’ maximum damage is higher due to assualt art. The only desirable qualities suvorov possesses is his 5 star training, but washington also has that. If you have 6 emblems, you should really go for Poniatowski. That's in grenadiers! In guards his average damage is 70-80. Dearborn has formation which doesn't only add 1 max damage, but there is a chance to add 5 damage. Lannes also lacks bugle, which is a handy skill that cannot be fixed. Suvorov's average damage encircled in guards is 60. Wellesley is a great infantry/business general who has economic master and bugle. Washington also has economic master, leadership and mass fire to defend cities. You also cannot just rate davout the best in 2 different units. Isabela and Moreau are better and on cavalry many are better. I mean Suvorov has undeniably high damage. However, he lacks assualt art, so how is he any different than Dobeln. You don’t need him, as you have victoria. Once fully regrouped, Davout is powerful on anything, which makes have nice damage. For artillery, he is the only general with assualt art, in addition to geography, and explosives. The only general I can think that is better than davout is isabella, who I have as well. Moreau is an iap who is inferior to isabella so he isn’t even worth mentioning. As for the cavarly generals that are better than davout, there really aren’t that many. There’s Poniatowski, Lan, Murat, and that’s about it. I consider Berthier to be very slightly worse to Davout fully upgraded when he is fully upgraded. The problem is that Lan is the only non-iap general that is better than Davout, and murat lacks geography. I mean idk. The only skill I really care about for infantry is mass fire, cuz that means that I won’t have to sacrifice any of the snare drums I would normally put on cavarly for infantry. In my opinion, that singles out Wellesley and makes him unrecommended, as I really don’t want an infantry general without mass fire on my team. Also, the most important skill for an economic general is architecture, as it allows for you to upgrade cities cheaper. That is dearborn’s most importsnt quality. That in my opinion makes washington an average econ general as you can’t buy architecture with an item, while you can buy econ master. There exists an infantry general named Koscuisko, who has architecture on top of defense art. So he has great survivability. I agree dearborn is good, but you can easily live without him, as you can replace with a non iap who isn’t much worse. Same with Suvorov, with Dobeln or Victoria. However you cannot replace Davout, Poniatowski, or even Lannes (Victoria lacks leadership) with a non iap, which is why I recommend buying them more. But if you have extra money to spend, thats your choice. You can buy Suvorov, Murat, Jervis and Moreau if you really want to. It will be pretty expensive. However, if you have to choose on single iap to buy, go for the hybrids Davout, Poniatowski as they offer the most for what you pay. There outputs aren’t extremely high, except for when assualt art triggers, but they can move fast, and their survivability is great. Once again, if you want to buy Suvorov or even Wellesley go right ahead. Just remember that suvorov starts out with really slow movement, but then again so does Lannes. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 5, 2018 17:27:37 GMT
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 6, 2018 4:24:04 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general. Suvorov is better than lannes. Leadership is not good for infantry cause you are not gonna advance him strait into their army. Suvorov has much higher damage. Even Dobeln and Oudinot do more damage. He wasnt any threat in battle of austerlitz, and he was a bigger threat in battle of eylau. Dearborn's movement makes him better than lannes. Geography does nothing for infantry and i would go for victoria. I agree everyone has their own opinions. I personally don’t see fighting suvorov as a threat at all, because you can encircle him, and then rumor him with cavarly. His output is not massive by any means. And dearborn lacks mass fire, so I feel as though you can honestly just use Kosciusko other than him. Leadership is a great skill for infantry. All the time, whenever a cavarly unit attacks victoria, I have to retreat her due to the moral loss. This will never happen with Lannes. Geography is not a skill for infantry. However, it makes Lannes be capable of being a good hybrid, as you can use him on cavarly, and his leadership, assualt art, and geography skills will triggle. You can also use him on artillery, and he will be quite good. Both dearborn and suvorov do not possess these qualities. Suvorov’s damage isn’t that great. Lannes’ maximum damage is higher due to assualt art. The only desirable qualities suvorov possesses is his 5 star training, but washington also has that. If you have 6 emblems, you should really go for Poniatowski.
That's in grenadiers! In guards his average damage is 70-80. Dearborn has formation which doesn't only add 1 max damage, but there is a chance to add 5 damage. Lannes also lacks bugle, which is a handy skill that cannot be fixed. Suvorov's average damage encircled in guards is 60. Wellesley is a great infantry/business general who has economic master and bugle. Washington also has economic master, leadership and mass fire to defend cities. You also cannot just rate davout the best in 2 different units. Isabela and Moreau are better and on cavalry many are better.
I mean Suvorov has undeniably high damage. However, he lacks assualt art, so how is he any different than Dobeln. You don’t need him, as you have victoria. Once fully regrouped, Davout is powerful on anything, which makes have nice damage. For artillery, he is the only general with assualt art, in addition to geography, and explosives. The only general I can think that is better than davout is isabella, who I have as well. Moreau is an iap who is inferior to isabella so he isn’t even worth mentioning. As for the cavarly generals that are better than davout, there really aren’t that many. There’s Poniatowski, Lan, Murat, and that’s about it. I consider Berthier to be very slightly worse to Davout fully upgraded when he is fully upgraded. The problem is that Lan is the only non-iap general that is better than Davout, and murat lacks geography. I mean idk. The only skill I really care about for infantry is mass fire, cuz that means that I won’t have to sacrifice any of the snare drums I would normally put on cavarly for infantry. In my opinion, that singles out Wellesley and makes him unrecommended, as I really don’t want an infantry general without mass fire on my team. Also, the most important skill for an economic general is architecture, as it allows for you to upgrade cities cheaper. That is dearborn’s most importsnt quality. That in my opinion makes washington an average econ general as you can’t buy architecture with an item, while you can buy econ master. There exists an infantry general named Koscuisko, who has architecture on top of defense art. So he has great survivability. I agree dearborn is good, but you can easily live without him, as you can replace with a non iap who isn’t much worse. Same with Suvorov, with Dobeln or Victoria. However you cannot replace Davout, Poniatowski, or even Lannes (Victoria lacks leadership) with a non iap, which is why I recommend buying them more. But if you have extra money to spend, thats your choice. You can buy Suvorov, Murat, Jervis and Moreau if you really want to. It will be pretty expensive. However, if you have to choose on single iap to buy, go for the hybrids Davout, Poniatowski as they offer the most for what you pay. There outputs aren’t extremely high, except for when assualt art triggers, but they can move fast, and their survivability is great. Once again, if you want to buy Suvorov or even Wellesley go right ahead. Just remember that suvorov starts out with really slow movement, but then again so does Lannes.
Bugle cannot be replaced. Mass fire can. Bugle minuses the minus in damage in cities, trenches, fences and bunkers.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 6, 2018 5:03:59 GMT
I should consider your advice especially considering the fact that you can't pass battle of austerlitz with davout. I think jervis is better than nelson because high business stars and economic master make him your business/navy general. Suvorov is better than lannes. Leadership is not good for infantry cause you are not gonna advance him strait into their army. Suvorov has much higher damage. Even Dobeln and Oudinot do more damage. He wasnt any threat in battle of austerlitz, and he was a bigger threat in battle of eylau. Dearborn's movement makes him better than lannes. Geography does nothing for infantry and i would go for victoria. I agree everyone has their own opinions. I personally don’t see fighting suvorov as a threat at all, because you can encircle him, and then rumor him with cavarly. His output is not massive by any means. And dearborn lacks mass fire, so I feel as though you can honestly just use Kosciusko other than him. Leadership is a great skill for infantry. All the time, whenever a cavarly unit attacks victoria, I have to retreat her due to the moral loss. This will never happen with Lannes. Geography is not a skill for infantry. However, it makes Lannes be capable of being a good hybrid, as you can use him on cavarly, and his leadership, assualt art, and geography skills will triggle. You can also use him on artillery, and he will be quite good. Both dearborn and suvorov do not possess these qualities. Suvorov’s damage isn’t that great. Lannes’ maximum damage is higher due to assualt art. The only desirable qualities suvorov possesses is his 5 star training, but washington also has that. If you have 6 emblems, you should really go for Poniatowski. That's in grenadiers! In guards his average damage is 70-80. Dearborn has formation which doesn't only add 1 max damage, but there is a chance to add 5 damage. Lannes also lacks bugle, which is a handy skill that cannot be fixed. Suvorov's average damage encircled in guards is 60. Wellesley is a great infantry/business general who has economic master and bugle. Washington also has economic master, leadership and mass fire to defend cities. You also cannot just rate davout the best in 2 different units. Isabela and Moreau are better and on cavalry many are better. I mean Suvorov has undeniably high damage. However, he lacks assualt art, so how is he any different than Dobeln. You don’t need him, as you have victoria. Once fully regrouped, Davout is powerful on anything, which makes have nice damage. For artillery, he is the only general with assualt art, in addition to geography, and explosives. The only general I can think that is better than davout is isabella, who I have as well. Moreau is an iap who is inferior to isabella so he isn’t even worth mentioning. As for the cavarly generals that are better than davout, there really aren’t that many. There’s Poniatowski, Lan, Murat, and that’s about it. I consider Berthier to be very slightly worse to Davout fully upgraded when he is fully upgraded. The problem is that Lan is the only non-iap general that is better than Davout, and murat lacks geography. I mean idk. The only skill I really care about for infantry is mass fire, cuz that means that I won’t have to sacrifice any of the snare drums I would normally put on cavarly for infantry. In my opinion, that singles out Wellesley and makes him unrecommended, as I really don’t want an infantry general without mass fire on my team. Also, the most important skill for an economic general is architecture, as it allows for you to upgrade cities cheaper. That is dearborn’s most importsnt quality. That in my opinion makes washington an average econ general as you can’t buy architecture with an item, while you can buy econ master. There exists an infantry general named Koscuisko, who has architecture on top of defense art. So he has great survivability. I agree dearborn is good, but you can easily live without him, as you can replace with a non iap who isn’t much worse. Same with Suvorov, with Dobeln or Victoria. However you cannot replace Davout, Poniatowski, or even Lannes (Victoria lacks leadership) with a non iap, which is why I recommend buying them more. But if you have extra money to spend, thats your choice. You can buy Suvorov, Murat, Jervis and Moreau if you really want to. It will be pretty expensive. However, if you have to choose on single iap to buy, go for the hybrids Davout, Poniatowski as they offer the most for what you pay. There outputs aren’t extremely high, except for when assualt art triggers, but they can move fast, and their survivability is great. Once again, if you want to buy Suvorov or even Wellesley go right ahead. Just remember that suvorov starts out with really slow movement, but then again so does Lannes. Bugle cannot be replaced. Mass fire can. Bugle minuses the minus in damage in cities, trenches, fences and bunkers. Hmm, so its kind of like the barrier skill in european war 6. I must admit I never really cared for it. So overall its an output raising skill. The thing with mass fire is that there are only 2 snare drums in the game, and I most rely on my infantry as units who can fight without them. If you feel as though you can go without Mass Fire, I advise you purchase Oudinot, as he will be the exact equivalent to Suvorov if you give him the snare drum. |
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 6, 2018 6:06:15 GMT
I have 2 games. 1. Lannes Marshal Emperor 4 at artillery and cavalry, Suvorov Leutenant general prince, Radetzky Major general Viscount Cavalry and business 5. 2. Golitsyn Major general Viscount, Sophia Colonel Viscount 4 stars in artillery. Lassale and radetzky are better than davout! Moreau is not inferior to isabela. Isabela is just faster.
Best Infantry generals
Victoria
Suvorov
Lannes Dearborn tied
Cavalry
Lan
Lassale
Radetzky
Artillery
Isabela
Moreau
Sophia
Navy
Kate
Jervis
Treville
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 6, 2018 13:02:06 GMT
I have 2 games. 1. Lannes Marshal Emperor 4 at artillery and cavalry, Suvorov Leutenant general prince, Radetzky Major general Viscount Cavalry and business 5. 2. Golitsyn Major general Viscount, Sophia Colonel Viscount 4 stars in artillery. Lassale and radetzky are better than davout! Moreau is not inferior to isabela. Isabela is just faster. Best Infantry generals Victoria Suvorov Lannes Dearborn tied Cavalry Lan Lassale Radetzky Artillery Isabela Moreau Sophia Navy Kate Jervis Treville Hmm if thats how you feel. I personally find movement more important than output as it allows me to grab empty cities. I don’t really like Lasalle at all as sailor and mobility are useless, just give two movements stars to golitsyn |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 6, 2018 13:03:49 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 6, 2018 13:05:01 GMT
These are the two best cavarly generals in the game for me. However, if you don’t like assualt art very much, you can go for Radetsky
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Post by Charlemagne on Aug 6, 2018 15:36:34 GMT
If you think movement is more important then you like platov. Use Fatimah for business, Kate for navy, Lan for cavalry, Isabela for artillery and Victoria for infantry.
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