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Post by Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake on Nov 12, 2016 0:24:40 GMT
Logostics is a very useful skill in my experience. In conquest when I use Saladin he will stay alive and keep helping me. Compared to Genghis who has better stat and braveness but will get wear down by the battles and die. Saladin will always be regaining the health he lost and will keep fighting. What I'm afraid of in later eras is that enemy unit has crazy high output that Saladin cannot touch anyone. This is exactly what I've been saying for the past 3 posts , lol, I did the test and Saladin went in 2nd, you can be a beast in the early ages with a mediocre general , everyone can, but the thing is, when things actually get on par with you , you'll end up eating the dirt instead of your enemy...
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Post by kanue on Nov 13, 2016 6:43:31 GMT
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Post by Singlemalt on Nov 13, 2016 10:47:40 GMT
And the amount of medals it costs to reach it. I am thinking to get him also since i cant do anything (except building the last 3 cities) till the update is there. I have saved up 4k medals but a big part will be necassary to give most of my generals their 4th star after the update.. so before i start.. do you know the amount of medals you spend? edit: especially when gurus like Erich von Manstein, and kanue are considering it.. now they get involved with general picking.. i will just stop talking and listening
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Post by Der Kaiserreich on Nov 13, 2016 11:39:41 GMT
And the amount of medals it costs to reach it. I am thinking to get him also since i cant do anything (except building the last 3 cities) till the update is there. I have saved up 4k medals but a big part will be necassary to give most of my generals their 4th star after the update.. so before i start.. do you know the amount of medals you spend? edit: especially when gurus like Erich von Manstein , and kanue are considering it.. now they get involved with general picking.. i will just stop talking and listening It seems, then, that the time we have before the Discovery Age update can help us to build up and prepare for it.
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Post by kanue on Nov 13, 2016 13:19:28 GMT
And the amount of medals it costs to reach it. I am thinking to get him also since i cant do anything (except building the last 3 cities) till the update is there. I have saved up 4k medals but a big part will be necassary to give most of my generals their 4th star after the update.. so before i start.. do you know the amount of medals you spend? edit: especially when gurus like Erich von Manstein , and kanue are considering it.. now they get involved with general picking.. i will just stop talking and listening Well, I just started playing this game so I am a noob here. Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake, I got a chance to try another weak cav general with Cav Commander skill. Now I can kinda imagine what you are trying to tell. Based on what I just tried, the gen needs 3 kills to fill the rage bar from empty which means if Attila can kill 3 units within the 2 turns that the skill is activated then you can keep the skill at 100% up time. And if the skill level is high the damage boost makes 3 kills in 2 turns easy. Well, all of this is only based on my imagination since I am still very far from getting this.
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Post by kanue on Nov 13, 2016 13:25:09 GMT
Merged it with other general discussion thread. As long there is 1 forum part for EW5 we should try to combine this info we share with each other. Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake , I dont agree with your thoughts. Saladin has the better skill (logistics) and costs way less medals to get him as strong as he made Atilla. Alexander, Saladin, Li shimin, Nobunaga, Licoln and Napolion (IAP) are for me atm the generals in my equipment that I think I will use in end game (its guessing ofc since no update yet). I dont have Caesar but he probably has the stats to also be engame material Logistics cavs make the last strike, while braveness cavs make the first, different topic. I'd say at the end I'll also buy Attila if easytech doesn't provide another decent braveness cav. Fun fact, Lincoln's 5* unit will be that anti-cav infantry from India. And Washington will be a crazy Gatling deals 50% extra to cav&inf. Since Lincoln takes an Indian infantry unit at 5 stars, then, does it means that the unit type a general becomes isn't necessarily based on the country that general comes from?
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Nov 13, 2016 13:52:31 GMT
Logistics cavs make the last strike, while braveness cavs make the first, different topic. I'd say at the end I'll also buy Attila if easytech doesn't provide another decent braveness cav. Fun fact, Lincoln's 5* unit will be that anti-cav infantry from India. And Washington will be a crazy Gatling deals 50% extra to cav&inf. Since Lincoln takes an Indian infantry unit at 5 stars, then, does it means that the unit type a general becomes isn't necessarily based on the country that general comes from? No, it's because US and India share the same 5* unit.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Nov 13, 2016 13:57:09 GMT
And the amount of medals it costs to reach it. I am thinking to get him also since i cant do anything (except building the last 3 cities) till the update is there. I have saved up 4k medals but a big part will be necassary to give most of my generals their 4th star after the update.. so before i start.. do you know the amount of medals you spend? edit: especially when gurus like Erich von Manstein , and kanue are considering it.. now they get involved with general picking.. i will just stop talking and listening The current problem is we don't have another op braveness cav other than Attila, and he is costly. As far as I know, all purple generals I've heard of (Columbus, Zheng Chenggong, Nelson, Tougou, Bismarck) in future eras are not cav.
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Post by Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake on Nov 13, 2016 14:58:03 GMT
And the amount of medals it costs to reach it. I am thinking to get him also since i cant do anything (except building the last 3 cities) till the update is there. I have saved up 4k medals but a big part will be necassary to give most of my generals their 4th star after the update.. so before i start.. do you know the amount of medals you spend? edit: especially when gurus like Erich von Manstein , and kanue are considering it.. now they get involved with general picking.. i will just stop talking and listening Well, I just started playing this game so I am a noob here. Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake , I got a chance to try another weak cav general with Cav Commander skill. Now I can kinda imagine what you are trying to tell. Based on what I just tried, the gen needs 3 kills to fill the rage bar from empty which means if Attila can kill 3 units within the 2 turns that the skill is activated then you can keep the skill at 100% up time. And if the skill level is high the damage boost makes 3 kills in 2 turns easy. Well, all of this is only based on my imagination since I am still very far from getting this. You're completely right , 3 kills fills the bar(which is easily achievable), now the skill itself not only boost your damage but also the damage of surrounding cav units(allies) , and while you're in the heat of battle the skill itself, lasting for 2 turns after activation, gives you enough time not just to fill up the bar, but also to kill 5 or more enemies(based on the situation).. Stats wise i can't tell you anything , if you noticed one of my threads , i deleted the game and kept the save due to it not automatically updating. But, if my memory serves me right the Hun has around 400 attack without the items(on his 3rd star).. He's your go to clearing the battlefield guy, and due to his setup he barely even suffers damage from his opposites , the archers, you'll end up killing them in a jiff along with everything else. Fortifications don't pose any problems as well.. With the set i posted, you'll have insane damage output , high survivability,the occasionally needed regen per turn and that's it, perfection..
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Post by Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake on Nov 13, 2016 15:03:23 GMT
+Cost wise, he's not so 'cheap', he's not sure how much exactly but his initial cost plus 2k-ish more medals for the equipment(which you should get anyways and switch it up between your generals if needed)
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Post by Feldmarschall, Fish the Cake on Nov 13, 2016 15:05:46 GMT
+In 90% of the situations Atilla fills his bar on the first turn of the engagement, sometimes, on his 1st turn of the game due to his high movement!
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Post by Singlemalt on Nov 13, 2016 15:16:34 GMT
ok then I will "sacrifice" myself by getting him up. will keep in mind the medals so we know in the end the costs. Keep you up to date in here saladin and atilla without upgrading their special skillz. Both 3 star, lvl 30 and no items. costs for now: buy 2250, upgrade to 2star 150 medals, upgrade to 3star 240medals: 2640 medals in total .org/image/m1freljwf/] [/url] .org/image/6tzru8s1r/] [/url]
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Post by best75 on Nov 13, 2016 22:28:18 GMT
Attila having attack master is likely going to give him much greater attack. Of course upgraing attack master is gonna use up more medals.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Nov 14, 2016 2:38:55 GMT
Leonidas is HORRIBLE. He is no better than un-generaled infantry of the same era, as far as I can tell. I can't remember any general from any game that left such a negative impression. (Maybe just cause he is.a free beginning general, and totally fails to honour greece)
Considering the poor stats of many european war 4 generals, and there being one star WC3 generals, there has to be somebody as bad as him. But Its horrible watching leonidas fail to meet even the minimum standards.
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Post by best75 on Nov 14, 2016 2:57:00 GMT
Leonidas is HORRIBLE. He is no better than un-generaled infantry of the same era, as far as I can tell. I can't remember any general from any game that left such a negative impression. (Maybe just cause he is.a free beginning general, and totally fails to honour greece) Considering the poor stats of many european war 4 generals, and there being one star WC3 generals, there has to be somebody as bad as him. But Its horrible watching leonidas fail to meet even the minimum standards. .org/image/hy0lzwj6h/] [/url] the game itself puts Leonidas at the bottom of the general list. Hes just that bad.
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