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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 21, 2016 15:22:13 GMT
Desophaeus if a player is excommunicated you have auto-CB like EU4? In your previous post, you don't need a CB to wafe war on a neutral city. A CB is needed for a war between the players. As for being excommunicated and giving all Catholics a free CB to attack you is a bit too OP because the Papal Controller enjoys the power of being able to urge the pope to excommunicate one of the players. If you're considering a plan to touch the city of Rome itself, I can only warn you that some nasty things WILL trigger. The TW is intended to function smoother with Rome independent.
As for the editable map, I didn't have a problem with the paint fill bucket tool on the one with colors in it. I am not going to post a new update until everyone else has done their turns. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 21, 2016 15:30:07 GMT
Okay, I believe we don't have a post from Laurent de Gouvion, Farmer Doggo, Franz von Hipper, and we're are almost ready to proceed to the next part of the 1490 AD expenses and income. It should be a lot quicker than waiting for someone else to post, so don't worry guys.  Sorry, nvm for Laurent de Gouvion, I saw the post for Milan. That leaves two, Geona and Sicily. |
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Post by Farmer Doggo on Nov 21, 2016 16:57:10 GMT
Sicily
10 ducats to start with
1)Research Theory of Wealth(-8 ducats)
2 ducats left
2)Move milita from Messina to Palermo
End turn
2 peasant militia in Palermo
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Post by António Salazar on Nov 21, 2016 17:07:06 GMT
Desophaeus if a player is excommunicated you have auto-CB like EU4? In your previous post, you don't need a CB to wafe war on a neutral city. A CB is needed for a war between the players. As for being excommunicated and giving all Catholics a free CB to attack you is a bit too OP because the Papal Controller enjoys the power of being able to urge the pope to excommunicate one of the players. If you're considering a plan to touch the city of Rome itself, I can only warn you that some nasty things WILL trigger. The TW is intended to function smoother with Rome independent.
As for the editable map, I didn't have a problem with the paint fill bucket tool on the one with colors in it. I am not going to post a new update until everyone else has done their turns. The Deus Vult was an ironic joke. It refers to the ways thing went in the 15h century in the Catholic church (nothing against Catholicism though) |
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 21, 2016 17:34:58 GMT
The Deus Vult was an ironic joke. It refers to the ways thing went in the 15h century in the Catholic church (nothing against Catholicism though) Ah, it didn't made sense to me because Spoleto is a catholic province, so it's Catholic vs Catholic in this game. I wasn't sure if you were serious either in the way you didn't spend 2 actions for that CB. Thought it would be safe to make sure you knew, so hence my post. |
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Post by António Salazar on Nov 21, 2016 18:14:09 GMT
Sicily 10 ducats Research Theory of Wealth 2 ducats Move milita from Messina to Palermo End turn 2 peasant militia in Palermo I think this contains some errors. To begin with that moving militia does not costs ducats but turns. You did not invest 1 turn researching theory of wealth and you spent 12 ducats while you have 10 in your treasury. |
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Post by Farmer Doggo on Nov 21, 2016 18:40:42 GMT
Sicily 10 ducats Research Theory of Wealth 2 ducats Move milita from Messina to Palermo End turn 2 peasant militia in Palermo I think this contains some errors. To begin with that moving militia does not costs ducats but turns. You did not invest 1 turn researching theory of wealth and you spent 12 ducats while you have 10 in your treasury. Alright, I mean the 10 and 2 ducats as how many ducats I had left (start with 10, spend a turn and 8 ducats researching theory of wealth, with a difference of 2 ducats left) , not as what I was spending for an action. As for the turns I kinda rushed it, I'll fix it in a bit |
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 21, 2016 20:38:02 GMT
I think this contains some errors. To begin with that moving militia does not costs ducats but turns. You did not invest 1 turn researching theory of wealth and you spent 12 ducats while you have 10 in your treasury. Alright, I mean the 10 and 2 ducats as how many ducats I had left (start with 10, spend a turn and 8 ducats researching theory of wealth, with a difference of 2 ducats left) , not as what I was spending for an action. As for the turns I kinda rushed it, I'll fix it in a bit No problem, thanks. Any questions about your post, there's people who have played a TW before and there's me as the GM to ask too. |
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 22, 2016 2:45:01 GMT
To all who has been wondering... Yes, I did sent a PM to Franz von Hipper. I'm considering that we could just progress without his turn. If I don't see a peep from him in... say 3 hours? 3 hours or so, he forfeit his actions for 1490 AD (but he still gets his ducats in income). |
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 22, 2016 8:34:53 GMT
Part 3 & 4 of 1490 AD I realized I didn't warn you guys to make sure you have enough money to fund your armies (if applicable), make sure you refer to the first page of the rules reference thread. Mandatory expenses comes before the income part. (If you don't have enough money, you could choose which armies to disband instead of being stuck with bankruptcy which causes the unpaid portions of your armies to turn hostile against you). Right now it is no big deal because everybody doesn't even have an army that requires maintenance. Peasants don't earn gold as reward from your treasury, they live only to serve you.  Not quite the useless rabble, they're, now? (Skipping the mandatory expenses for 1490) I will list everybody's incomes which were adjusted with the new captures now. Napoleon Bonaparte - 5 ducats gained from cities, plus 2 from ToW (Theory of Wealth) = 7 ducats given to the Lord Chancellor of France best75 - 9d cities, +2 ToW = 11 ducats given to the Grand Vizier Quintus Fabius - 4d cities = 4 ducats given to the Duke of Styria Imperial RomeBall - 6d cities, +2 ToW = 8 ducats given to the King of Naples Farmer Doggo - 4d cities, +2 ToW = 6 ducats given to the King of Sicily António Salazar - 9d cities, +2 ToW = 11 ducats given to the Prince of the Papal States Laurent de Gouvion - 9d cities, +2 ToW = 11 ducats given to the Duke of Milan Frederick the Great - 11d cities, +2 ToW = 13 ducats given to the Doge of Venice Franz von Hipper - 9d cities = 9 ducats given to the Doge of Genoa Results of 1490   |
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Post by Desophaeus on Nov 22, 2016 9:10:37 GMT
I will post the 1491 event in the morning.
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Nov 22, 2016 9:21:16 GMT
Franz von Hipper CB/DOWing you. Remove Savoy! France stronk! (the real DOW is below, BTW) I had 10 ducats, spent 8 and got 7. Thence 9 left. 1) CB Savoy. 2) CB Savoy. 3) Buying the neutral garrison of Saluzzo, cost is 9 D's. (Spent all income).
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Post by Frederick the Great on Nov 22, 2016 10:14:03 GMT
Franz von Hipper CB/DOWing you. Remove Savoy! France stronk! (the real DOW is below, BTW) I had 10 ducats, spent 8 and got 7. Thence 9 left. 1) CB Savoy. 2) CB Savoy. 3) Buying the neutral garrison of Saluzzo, cost is 9 D's. (Spent all income). You can't yet. Desophaeus said no wars until 1494 (or something like that). Plus it's pretty dishonourable and 'dog' as people say today to attack someone without them even being here. For all we know Franz von Hipper is sick or something and hasn't been able to tell us why he isn't around. He doesn't seem like the person to just say he'll join the game and then never participate. I honestly believe that he probably has a legitimate reason. I'm not saying stop the game I'm just saying it isn't really fair to CB him on the second turn. |
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Post by Napoleon Bonaparte on Nov 22, 2016 10:16:41 GMT
Franz von Hipper CB/DOWing you. Remove Savoy! France stronk! (the real DOW is below, BTW) I had 10 ducats, spent 8 and got 7. Thence 9 left. 1) CB Savoy. 2) CB Savoy. 3) Buying the neutral garrison of Saluzzo, cost is 9 D's. (Spent all income). You can't yet. Desophaeus said no wars until 1494 (or something like that). Plus it's pretty dishonourable and 'dog' as people say today to attack someone without them even being here. For all we know Franz von Hipper is sick or something and hasn't been able to tell us why he isn't around. He doesn't seem like the person to just say he'll join the game and then never participate. I honestly believe that he probably has a legitimate reason. I'm not saying stop the game I'm just saying it isn't really fair to CB him on the second turn. about the armies, ok. About Genoa, well. I am not (and can not) do/doing much against him, but I do have my personal gains as well that I will obviously think of. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Nov 22, 2016 10:18:31 GMT
You can't yet. Desophaeus said no wars until 1494 (or something like that). Plus it's pretty dishonourable and 'dog' as people say today to attack someone without them even being here. For all we know Franz von Hipper is sick or something and hasn't been able to tell us why he isn't around. He doesn't seem like the person to just say he'll join the game and then never participate. I honestly believe that he probably has a legitimate reason. I'm not saying stop the game I'm just saying it isn't really fair to CB him on the second turn. about the armies, ok. About Genoa, well. I am not (and can not) do/doing much against him, but I do have my personal gains as well that I will obviously think of. But it's directly against the rules to attack him this early so not only is it an immoral (in my eyes at least) move but it's an illegal move. |
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