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Post by ehnoymanoy on Jan 18, 2017 20:51:45 GMT
Say... if you have 20$ to spend, and you're in the same position i'm in, (having 3 un-epgraded EC's currently + Govorov, Guderian, and Crerar) would you use it for the marshall pack and obtain Manstein? Or buy the 20$ medal pack containing 3600 medals?
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 19, 2017 10:10:26 GMT
Say... if you have 20$ to spend, and you're in the same position i'm in, (having 3 un-epgraded EC's currently + Govorov, Guderian, and Crerar) would you use it for the marshall pack and obtain Manstein? Or buy the 20$ medal pack containing 3600 medals? I think Manstein is better. Especially keeping in mind you have only 2 good gens now. Guderian is better than Manstein for tank, but for art and infantry overall he's the best gen. His only problem is that he lacks tide of iron. Sure, EC can be much better, but for that you have to farm very many medals, so it's better to leave it for later time, anyway you need one more gen instead of ECs. |
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Post by ehnoymanoy on Jan 19, 2017 15:37:31 GMT
Say... if you have 20$ to spend, and you're in the same position i'm in, (having 3 un-epgraded EC's currently + Govorov, Guderian, and Crerar) would you use it for the marshall pack and obtain Manstein? Or buy the 20$ medal pack containing 3600 medals? I think Manstein is better. Especially keeping in mind you have only 2 good gens now. Guderian is better than Manstein for tank, but for art and infantry overall he's the best gen. His only problem is that he lacks tide of iron. Sure, EC can be much better, but for that you have to farm very many medals, so it's better to leave it for later time, anyway you need one more gen instead of ECs.Thank you. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 19, 2017 16:02:28 GMT
Only keep in mind that Manstein for art is better than Govorov in some situations (when he has more than 50% hp, when he have to go long distance and also promoting Govorov to marhal will make Manstein less useful).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 22:48:32 GMT
Say... if you have 20$ to spend, and you're in the same position i'm in, (having 3 un-epgraded EC's currently + Govorov, Guderian, and Crerar) would you use it for the marshall pack and obtain Manstein? Or buy the 20$ medal pack containing 3600 medals? I think Manstein is better. Especially keeping in mind you have only 2 good gens now. Guderian is better than Manstein for tank, but for art and infantry overall he's the best gen. His only problem is that he lacks tide of iron. Sure, EC can be much better, but for that you have to farm very many medals, so it's better to leave it for later time, anyway you need one more gen instead of ECs.Guderian isn't always the better tank general. Manstein is perfect for a city-destroying tank general. When it comes to fighting units: Guderian wins When it comes to taking cities or forts: Manstein wins |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 20, 2017 1:28:55 GMT
Guderian isn't always the better tank general. Manstein is perfect for a city-destroying tank general. When it comes to fighting units: Guderian wins When it comes to taking cities or forts: Manstein wins When hp above 50% - yes. But when less, Guderian is something equal and when around 25% he becomes better. I haven't tried him, but what confuses me is absence of tide of iron. And that's why I like Vatulin more than Patton. Vatulin even with less than 100 hp can make serious damage (when full hp is more than 400), for example, when he got nuked in city right after birth and may even make enough damage to get some levels and raise hp to normal level. |
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Post by ehnoymanoy on Jan 20, 2017 2:19:13 GMT
Thanks for the very informational posts guys  Other than generals, say, what tech levels should I upgrade to? I currently have: Lvl 2 infantry Lvl 2 artillery Lvl 2 armored Lvl 2 navy Lvl 1 Air Force That's all. And I currently have resources of: About 140k industry About 120k energy and About 77k technology. Also 1850 medals and HQ level 40. Please let me know what technologies/tech levels are recommended. And as always, thanks. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 20, 2017 2:37:14 GMT
Guderian isn't always the better tank general. Manstein is perfect for a city-destroying tank general. When it comes to fighting units: Guderian wins When it comes to taking cities or forts: Manstein wins When hp above 50% - yes. But when less, Guderian is something equal and when around 25% he becomes better. I haven't tried him, but what confuses me is absence of tide of iron. And that's why I like Vatulin more than Patton. Vatulin even with less than 100 hp can make serious damage (when full hp is more than 400), for example, when he got nuked in city right after birth and may even make enough damage to get some levels and raise hp to normal level. That's why Patton's Ace Forces is so important to him, so he can regain health by his damage on forts(he is boss when in a city against alien towers). |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 20, 2017 3:10:07 GMT
Thanks for the very informational posts guys Other than generals, say, what tech levels should I upgrade to? I currently have: Lvl 2 infantry Lvl 2 artillery Lvl 2 armored Lvl 2 navy Lvl 1 Air Force That's all. And I currently have resources of: About 140k industry About 120k energy and About 77k technology. Also 1850 medals and HQ level 40. Please let me know what technologies/tech levels are recommended. And as always, thanks. lvl 6 air&missile, arty>tank>inf>navy, lvl 2 nuke. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 20, 2017 14:45:36 GMT
That's why Patton's Ace Forces is so important to him, so he can regain health by his damage on forts(he is boss when in a city against alien towers). For that purpose I prefer EC in field art with street, plain, explosives, supply and barrage (I think even lvl2 can be good for bronze and silver stars, for goden lv3 is ok). He's monster not only against towers but also very good for protecting city. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 20, 2017 16:12:08 GMT
That's why Patton's Ace Forces is so important to him, so he can regain health by his damage on forts(he is boss when in a city against alien towers). For that purpose I prefer EC in field art with street, plain, explosives, supply and barrage (I think even lvl2 can be good for bronze and silver stars, for goden lv3 is ok). He's monster not only against towers but also very good for protecting city. How do you feel about Ace in campaigns? I'm still afraid that Supply cannot give regen fast enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 17:48:41 GMT
For that purpose I prefer EC in field art with street, plain, explosives, supply and barrage (I think even lvl2 can be good for bronze and silver stars, for goden lv3 is ok). He's monster not only against towers but also very good for protecting city. How do you feel about Ace in campaigns? I'm still afraid that Supply cannot give regen fast enough. I honestly don't like Ace in general, just because of how it is limited. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Jan 20, 2017 22:21:46 GMT
How do you feel about Ace in campaigns? I'm still afraid that Supply cannot give regen fast enough. Haven't tried it (none of my gens have it), but theoretically lv4 AF can give you no more than 90 extra hp, which lv4 supply gives you in 11 turns. It may be good for gens, who are going to die fast, just to let them live a bit longer, but for such tasks I haven't used ECs. Playing 1939 USSR I thought about it, for one gen seems like AF would be better, but overall I think supply is notably better. |
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Post by ehnoymanoy on Jan 21, 2017 1:20:28 GMT
I got Manstein! He is of greater good for me in many aspects and I now wonder; what gen next?
Other than building EC's that will take quite a while, I question; what general to get next to help farm the medals to build the EC's? I'm thinking of Patton, but I already have great city smashing gen... 2's a charm right? Or maybe save for art General like Badoglio which is very useful for alien... or just start building the EC's maybe...
Please leave your suggestions below. Thank you.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 21, 2017 1:52:48 GMT
How do you feel about Ace in campaigns? I'm still afraid that Supply cannot give regen fast enough. Haven't tried it (none of my gens have it), but theoretically lv4 AF can give you no more than 90 extra hp, which lv4 supply gives you in 11 turns. It may be good for gens, who are going to die fast, just to let them live a bit longer, but for such tasks I haven't used ECs. Playing 1939 USSR I thought about it, for one gen seems like AF would be better, but overall I think supply is notably better. Of course supply gives more, but AF gives it earlier, and gives damage reduction. The point is that people like Patton can get 40 or 50 regen before he loses his combat power. |
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