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Post by best75 on Jan 24, 2017 12:38:20 GMT
best75 , True. I told Lee the other day that Caesar is not totally necessary, as you get Alexander. Caesar IS clearly superior though. As for Barbarossa, I upgraded him to Teutonic order, but find him weak. Too weak for defense missions certainly. If I upgraded him to musketeer or Infantry he might be more impressive, but I doubt it. When you guys said he gets Samurai, I kinda took it as a joke lol. But he does. Nearly useless (but not quite) skill for generic troops, since damage reduction by health is so small in this game. Maybe work for him. Since I'm not buying medals, maybe I should consider buying Richard, who is cheaper by well over 1000 medals. He comes from part of my heritage, but Caesar is cooler IMO. Richard would also look weird on gun-troops, unlike Caesar, who is the ancestor of the modern Italian looking Infantry. (well, Austrian, close enough) I actually don't like the Teutonc order skill the infantry generals get too much. It only activates when the enemy attacks on their turn. Which is pretty bad imo. Its pretty much never going to work on artillery and archers since they have range. It can work well when enemy cavalry and infantry attack him but there some enemy infantry and cavalry generals with braveness. |
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Post by andrei on Jan 24, 2017 13:06:53 GMT
best75 , True. I told Lee the other day that Caesar is not totally necessary, as you get Alexander. Caesar IS clearly superior though. As for Barbarossa, I upgraded him to Teutonic order, but find him weak. Too weak for defense missions certainly. If I upgraded him to musketeer or Infantry he might be more impressive, but I doubt it. When you guys said he gets Samurai, I kinda took it as a joke lol. But he does. Nearly useless (but not quite) skill for generic troops, since damage reduction by health is so small in this game. Maybe work for him. Since I'm not buying medals, maybe I should consider buying Richard, who is cheaper by well over 1000 medals. He comes from part of my heritage, but Caesar is cooler IMO. Richard would also look weird on gun-troops, unlike Caesar, who is the ancestor of the modern Italian looking Infantry. (well, Austrian, close enough) I actually don't like the Teutonc order skill the infantry generals get too much. It only activates when the enemy attacks on their turn. Which is pretty bad imo. Its pretty much never going to work on artillery and archers since they have range. It can work well when enemy cavalry and infantry attack him but there some enemy infantry and cavalry generals with braveness. If taking all that reasons into account we should ask a simple question: why do we need infantry generals at all  Or better to say, why do we need to spend medals on them. It's better to use extra slot for the Archer or Cavalry instead and to use free and quite capable Alexander for closing infantry vacancy in the missions. Moreover, he is cool for smashing walls also. That helps sometimes! |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Jan 24, 2017 13:26:08 GMT
I actually don't like the Teutonc order skill the infantry generals get too much. It only activates when the enemy attacks on their turn. Which is pretty bad imo. Its pretty much never going to work on artillery and archers since they have range. It can work well when enemy cavalry and infantry attack him but there some enemy infantry and cavalry generals with braveness. If taking all that reasons into account we should ask a simple question: why do we need infantry generals at all Or better to say, why do we need to spend medals on them. It's better to use extra slot for the Archer or Cavalry instead and to use free and quite capable Alexander for closing infantry vacancy in the missions. Moreover, he is cool for smashing walls also. That helps sometimes! You just answered your question. Alexander counts. Though to be fair you mean wasting medals on infantry, not free Alexander (who costs medals to upgrade) 1 reason and 1 excuse reason: Infantry are made to target archers, and are thus a worthy addition to the team. Particularly before Industrial I guess. Excuse: IMO when looking at all of the Easy-tech games, Infantry might be strongest in this one. In several (EW3, WC2) they have no special characteristics, simply having low stats making them the weakest unit, and only one unit. In others, they have unique abilities but are outclassed by every other unit (EW4, 3 kingdoms) However, IMO in this one they have their strongest showing. Cavalry are shredded by archers, after all. I guess you can blame the traditional (non-ET) mechanic in this game, where one unit beats the other unit beats the other unit. |
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Post by kanue on Jan 24, 2017 17:20:12 GMT
If taking all that reasons into account we should ask a simple question: why do we need infantry generals at all Or better to say, why do we need to spend medals on them. It's better to use extra slot for the Archer or Cavalry instead and to use free and quite capable Alexander for closing infantry vacancy in the missions. Moreover, he is cool for smashing walls also. That helps sometimes! You just answered your question. Alexander counts. Though to be fair you mean wasting medals on infantry, not free Alexander (who costs medals to upgrade) 1 reason and 1 excuse reason: Infantry are made to target archers, and are thus a worthy addition to the team. Particularly before Industrial I guess. Excuse: IMO when looking at all of the Easy-tech games, Infantry might be strongest in this one. In several (EW3, WC2) they have no special characteristics, simply having low stats making them the weakest unit, and only one unit. In others, they have unique abilities but are outclassed by every other unit (EW4, 3 kingdoms) However, IMO in this one they have their strongest showing. Cavalry are shredded by archers, after all. I guess you can blame the traditional (non-ET) mechanic in this game, where one unit beats the other unit beats the other unit. , That is what I think. My team has no infantry at all, not even Alex. To deal with the archers, I rely on archer-killers like Saladin, Nobunaga, Nelson, Washington, or even Li Shimin (well, I just mention the names, don't actually have 'em). Imperial RomeBall, the 'excuse' you mentioned is very valid to me. If I bought an infantry general, that would be my reason. |
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Post by best75 on Jan 24, 2017 21:16:45 GMT
I actually don't like the Teutonc order skill the infantry generals get too much. It only activates when the enemy attacks on their turn. Which is pretty bad imo. Its pretty much never going to work on artillery and archers since they have range. It can work well when enemy cavalry and infantry attack him but there some enemy infantry and cavalry generals with braveness. If taking all that reasons into account we should ask a simple question: why do we need infantry generals at all Or better to say, why do we need to spend medals on them. It's better to use extra slot for the Archer or Cavalry instead and to use free and quite capable Alexander for closing infantry vacancy in the missions. Moreover, he is cool for smashing walls also. That helps sometimes! Infantry generals in general tend have the highest HP besides artillery so they are the ones most suited to soak up damage. We also want them because some have really good skills. Fro Caesar we want him because of his high stats, his healing ability and braveness, skills at 6 stars For Richard we want him for his logostics, rumor skills, skills at 6 star. |
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Post by burningwings on Jan 26, 2017 23:19:50 GMT
So at 6 star Li Shinmin can keep both his special skill and ranger 2-3.  And many generals have both of their skills changed.  |
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Post by Singlemalt on Jan 27, 2017 7:17:25 GMT
So at 6 star Li Shinmin can keep both his special skill and ranger 2-3. And many generals have both of their skills changed. Yeah LiShimin is a beast at 6* |
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Post by burningwings on Jan 27, 2017 11:47:32 GMT
And is there any new Gold or Purple generals that we should buy. I haven't reached Discovery Age yet.  |
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Post by Singlemalt on Jan 27, 2017 12:02:57 GMT
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jan 27, 2017 20:47:24 GMT
You just answered your question. Alexander counts. Though to be fair you mean wasting medals on infantry, not free Alexander (who costs medals to upgrade) 1 reason and 1 excuse reason: Infantry are made to target archers, and are thus a worthy addition to the team. Particularly before Industrial I guess. Excuse: IMO when looking at all of the Easy-tech games, Infantry might be strongest in this one. In several (EW3, WC2) they have no special characteristics, simply having low stats making them the weakest unit, and only one unit. In others, they have unique abilities but are outclassed by every other unit (EW4, 3 kingdoms) However, IMO in this one they have their strongest showing. Cavalry are shredded by archers, after all. I guess you can blame the traditional (non-ET) mechanic in this game, where one unit beats the other unit beats the other unit. , That is what I think. My team has no infantry at all, not even Alex. To deal with the archers, I rely on archer-killers like Saladin, Nobunaga, Nelson, Washington, or even Li Shimin (well, I just mention the names, don't actually have 'em). Imperial RomeBall , the 'excuse' you mentioned is very valid to me. If I bought an infantry general, that would be my reason. Anyone remember Jeanne d'Arc? Shelter has 75% reduction to arty and 40% to all. She is a solid light switch against enemy arty which we have no idea what their skills are. AND if you have Blucher/Yi Sun-sin... |
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Post by andrei on Jan 27, 2017 21:37:00 GMT
Well.. artillery is a problem only.. when there are a lot of artillery And in that case Joan can not save You, as she can't handle it alone. She is too weak. |
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