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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 15:38:09 GMT
Not to piss anyone off but how many people are still left?
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 13, 2017 18:32:20 GMT
I still haven't.
I have to admit something. I got a call from a family relative today and the experience was raw. I'm distracted, sorry... I still plan to eventually post today.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 18:38:56 GMT
King Carol I gives birth...... Isn't that the Queen's business? Thats the joke, yeh. No but really, its very important that King Carolus gets an heir. No disrespect pls. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 18:39:33 GMT
King Carol gives birth and you want your vampires back?  If everybody finds that funny, then send some thanks MY way eh? |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 18:50:29 GMT
I still haven't. I have to admit something. I got a call from a family relative today and the experience was raw. I'm distracted, sorry... I still plan to eventually post today. I support this. I give you, an example turn: Italy 1900 Pizza Pizza Pasta Pasta Pasta Pasta Somaliland. |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 13, 2017 19:39:34 GMT
Not to piss anyone off but how many people are still left? Me. Probably doing mine tonight. |
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Mar 13, 2017 19:58:16 GMT
Mongolia 1900:
While not officially independent, Outer Mongolia was given autonomy in the Qing Empire, with Mongols being effectively segregated from Han China. No Han Chinese could move to Inner or Outer Mongolia, and all Mongols had to stay in their native region. The only non-Mongols allowed in Mongolia were Manchu officials from the Qing government itself. However, a recent plan to effectively colonize Mongolia with Han Chinese in order to strengthen the Northern border against Russian aggression has been leaked, leading to mass Mongol protests. Tensions are rising, as more Mongols begin to revere the Bogd Khan in Urga than Empress Dowager Cixi in Peking. Vajrayana monks and monasteries proclaim their allegiance to the Bogd Khan and not the Qing Emperor, further escalating tensions. Due to conflict with Western powers such as the USA and Russia, however, Cixi is effectively powerless to do anything to prevent this clear demonstration of non-allegiance.
A Nationalist Independence Organization, the Genghis Bataar Movement (The Great Hero Movement), begins to gain influence among Mongol elites, particularly among the Bogd Khan and the Vajrayana Buddhist Clergy. The Organization establishes a Military Arm, The Tsagaan Khans (The White Leaders), to begin gaining recruits under the banner of a Mongol state independent from Chinese, Manchu or Russian rule. The group swells to a size of 15,000 Mongols in a matter of a few months, and many in the Organization, including an ambitious young general by the name of Khatanbaatar Magsarjav, hope to take control of the Qing government in Uliastai as soon as possible.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 20:59:45 GMT
I wish to know what will happen if I refuse. Hmm. I will have to check my options, but probably nothing. Not immediately in particular. If you do this land cession, at the generous 70/30 split, you will the gratitude of the Romanian and Greek State. It will also support Austria-Hungary if ethnic troubles occur in the empire. Transylvania is 102,834 KM. Its 1918 population is around 2,831,000 Romanians (53-57%) and 1,662,000 Hungarians (31%) Thus, I would leave you at least 30% of Transylvania. Allow you to resettle those 1.6 million Hungarians in the new Hungarian portion, those who do not already live in it of course. COMPARISON OF HUNGARY NOW, and HUNGARY AT END OF WORLD WAR 1. Hungary now: 325,000 SQ KM, 20 million people. Hungary after WW1: 93,073 KM 7.6 million people. Area lost: 72%. Population lost: 64%. (vast majority non-hungarians, 31% of Hungarians also lost, or 3.3 million) HUNGARY AFTER MY PROPOSAL BUT WITHOUT WORLD WAR 1 Hungary now: 325,000 SQ KM, 20 million people. Hungary after Proposal: 253,473 SQ KM, 17.5 million people. 77% of Area (or 23% loss) 83.7% population (or 17% loss) To make this palatable, I am willing to tweak the numbers and area ceded. For example, looking at the German minority (10%) Yours Sincerely, His Majesty The King Carol I, Prince of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
His Majesty George I, The King of the Hellenes
Caesar Augustus, Basileus Imperial RomeBall of the Eastern Greco-Roman Empire |
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 13, 2017 21:15:29 GMT
The Diet of Hungary will consider it.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 21:27:29 GMT
Well, No need to enact it in the very first year. The Senate of Romania awaits word.
I think this is generous, as even in the strongest version of my proposal, Romania will be weaker in 2017 and Hungary stronger. Hungary, if it loses the rest of its land in the K.U.K, in other words be the same size as present, it will still be 33% larger in 2017. Romania will be nearly 13% smaller. Though it will still be 50% larger than pre-world war 1.
The only question, what political ramifications will this have in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Hopefully little, and it will have the friendship of Romania throughout these events.
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Mar 13, 2017 21:33:16 GMT
Imperial RomeBall, Yi Sun Sin, I'd say close the deal with the entry of Romania's official entrance into the Triple Alliance (Making it the Quadruple Alliance)
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 13, 2017 21:34:12 GMT
Well, No need to enact it in the very first year. The Senate of Romania awaits word. I think this is generous, as even in the strongest version of my proposal, Romania will be weaker in 2017 and Hungary stronger. Hungary, if it loses the rest of its land in the K.U.K, in other words be the same size as present, it will still be 33% larger in 2017. Romania will be nearly 13% smaller. Though it will still be 50% larger than pre-world war 1. The only question, what political ramifications will this have in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Hopefully little, and it will have the friendship of Romania throughout these events. Well, Hungary would be really ticked off. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 21:39:42 GMT
Well, No need to enact it in the very first year. The Senate of Romania awaits word. I think this is generous, as even in the strongest version of my proposal, Romania will be weaker in 2017 and Hungary stronger. Hungary, if it loses the rest of its land in the K.U.K, in other words be the same size as present, it will still be 33% larger in 2017. Romania will be nearly 13% smaller. Though it will still be 50% larger than pre-world war 1. The only question, what political ramifications will this have in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Hopefully little, and it will have the friendship of Romania throughout these events. Well, Hungary would be really ticked off. That is probably true, even though they are getting a good deal, they don't know it. Can normal political moves be made palatable to the wider audience... I'm more concerned with the ethnics that are neither Austrian or Hungarian. What will they think, of -3 million Romanians peacefully exiting the Empire, and minority status? Well, Romania will couch the transfer in terms of rightful entry into an existing Kingdom, and that it spells no change of status for non-Romanian minority groups. We will give our support to the Austro-Hungarian empire, to help it survive despite its multi-cultural make-up. |
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 21:42:34 GMT
Imperial RomeBall , Yi Sun Sin , I'd say close the deal with the entry of Romania's official entrance into the Triple Alliance (Making it the Quadruple Alliance) That could be done. The Triple alliance was not eternal, after all. Besides, if I want to support the enemies of the Triple Alliance in some event, I could split Greece and Romania. Romania, the stronger nation, would then be still allied with Austria-Hungary. Yes, a reasonable possibility. I have already offered my gratitude, that is little different from alliance. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 22:50:29 GMT
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