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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 12, 2017 20:24:30 GMT
I have to agree, Taiwan should be Japanese, but whatever. I'd like to believe a French administration would be kinder to the natives. Heck, it probably will be. But it will still be harsh. Of course, even the Chinese were harsh, so whatever. Thanks for agreeing with us as rulers of Formosa, but I believe France is the proper governing country, for now... Be honest, it's about the possibility of war rather than the administrative methodology.
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Post by Desophaeus on Mar 12, 2017 20:33:56 GMT
@khurramzafar , Laurent de Gouvion , this planned Vladivostok-Istanbul Railroad would cost a hella lot, needing for the railway in Russia to go south to the Caucasus and then across Anatolia to Istanbul, or you'd need to get Romania and the Bulgarian Principality (A vassal of the Ottomans) to agree which would also cost large amts of funds. But, the real reason why I'm talking is because the Mongol government proposes that we send some of our workers to help build the railroad and in return, we would gain help in our industrialization process. We would also like to send some government envoys and Mongolian capitalists to watch the building of the railroad to see how to build some in Mongolia. we aren't involving the Bulgars and the Romanians. The line will have to pass through the Caucasus and then into Kurdistan Read the first part of what Sherman said. He mentioned the Caucasian Mountains. MOUNTAINS! Plus the Turkey itself (Anatolia or Asia Minor) is almost like a land that's taller in hills & peaks than the width of its valleys or lowlands. Turkey has ROUGH territory. So it doesn't matter which route, the railroad will be insanely expensive and not helpful because it doesn't connect many people together. Reminder: The Orient Express connects Paris to Istanbul and was built in 1883 (I looked it up to be sure). So you're connected to Europe pretty well.
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Mar 12, 2017 20:38:17 GMT
we aren't involving the Bulgars and the Romanians. The line will have to pass through the Caucasus and then into Kurdistan Read the first part of what Sherman said. He mentioned the Caucasian Mountains. MOUNTAINS! Plus the Turkey itself (Anatolia or Asia Minor) is almost like a land that's taller in hills & peaks than the width of its valleys or lowlands. Turkey has ROUGH territory. So it doesn't matter which route, the railroad will be insanely expensive and not helpful because it doesn't connect many people together. Reminder: The Orient Express connects Paris to Istanbul and was built in 1883 (I looked it up to be sure). So you're connected to Europe pretty well. This is why I'm not going to build a railway from Vladivostok to California. The railway has enough mountains, no need to add another Mountain range and a strait (not to mention Canada being in the way).
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Post by Ivan Kolev on Mar 12, 2017 20:42:53 GMT
we aren't involving the Bulgars and the Romanians. The line will have to pass through the Caucasus and then into Kurdistan Read the first part of what Sherman said. He mentioned the Caucasian Mountains. MOUNTAINS! Plus the Turkey itself (Anatolia or Asia Minor) is almost like a land that's taller in hills & peaks than the width of its valleys or lowlands. Turkey has ROUGH territory. So it doesn't matter which route, the railroad will be insanely expensive and not helpful because it doesn't connect many people together. Reminder: The Orient Express connects Paris to Istanbul and was built in 1883 (I looked it up to be sure). So you're connected to Europe pretty well. I say we build an initial railroad connecting Odessa, Kiev or Sevastopol to Istanbul via the Ukraine, Bessarabia, Romania, Bulgaria and finally through Thrace to Istanbul. We would need consent of Carol I of Romania and Ferdinand I of the Principality of Bulgaria to go through their land and they'd also need some cash in return for allowing us to build a railroad in their territory. This initial project would cost much, but not NEARLY as much as the planned route through the Caucasus and Anatolia, especially if we choose the Odessa link. Once we tie up all the loose ends regarding money with the initial railway (I.e, Russia paying Ottomans some cash for the cost of the Railway), we could then link this railway to Moscow. If we go through with this plan, I say we pick Odessa as it is kinda in the middle of Moscow and Istanbul, making it a nice midway point between the two cities.
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Post by best75 on Mar 12, 2017 23:13:06 GMT
A railway through Romania and Bulagria?
No ones playing Romania so I am not sure how it will work with an NPC I am playing Bulgaria
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 12, 2017 23:16:46 GMT
A railway through Romania and Bulagria? No ones playing Romania so I am not sure how it will work with an NPC I am playing Bulgaria Romania is owned by Greece which is being played by Imperial RomeBall.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 12, 2017 23:18:45 GMT
A railway through Romania and Bulagria? No ones playing Romania so I am not sure how it will work with an NPC I am playing Bulgaria He is right, I should have posted a Romania turn by now. If you want to build a railway to Romania, just explain it to me. I don't see why I won't accept.
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Post by best75 on Mar 12, 2017 23:18:59 GMT
A railway through Romania and Bulagria? No ones playing Romania so I am not sure how it will work with an NPC I am playing Bulgaria Romania is owned by Greece which is being played by Imperial RomeBall . Oh right, I missed it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 23:42:10 GMT
A railway through Romania and Bulagria? No ones playing Romania so I am not sure how it will work with an NPC I am playing Bulgaria He is right, I should have posted a Romania turn by now. If you want to build a railway to Romania, just explain it to me. I don't see why I won't accept. The way I saw it, was that you aren't just playing as Greece and Romania, but that you own both as a singular empire. One turn will suffice for your singular empire.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 12, 2017 23:45:18 GMT
He is right, I should have posted a Romania turn by now. If you want to build a railway to Romania, just explain it to me. I don't see why I won't accept. The way I saw it, was that you aren't just playing as Greece and Romania, but that you own both as a singular empire. One turn will suffice for your singular empire. This would be a good Idea if you are concerned that I am cheating by not doing it at the same time. The countries are badly connected, but next year I will make sure to do them at the same time, if that is your wish.
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion on Mar 12, 2017 23:56:31 GMT
Imperial RomeBall playing as Qing raises another problem: He knows all our war plans. We haven't revealed our war plans other than the Expeditions, and those are successful now (the Legations are relieved). Any other invasion plan would be obvious to even someone without his knowledge, as there are only a few spots where invasion could be done (Manchuria, Port Arthur, Hong Kong). Besides, the army in Peking could just take the city and take Empress Dowager Cixi captive. The war ends.
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 13, 2017 4:18:12 GMT
Kingdom of Romania. The Kingdom of Romania is proud, with its king being Carol I. Thats right, CAROLUS IS HERE. The Kingdom shall now be divided into the following regions. The Army is 240,000 strong. (24 Divisions) The Military order is reactive-if the enemy enters in force, neighbouring regions reinforce. 1. Craiova (far west) 5 Divisions 2. Targoviste (west) 3 Divisions 3. Bucharest (centre/Capital) 5 Divisions 4. Iasi (far north) 4 Divisions 5. Bacau-Galati (North) 3 Divisions 6. Constantia/Constanta (far east coast) 4 Divisions Civil events 1900. Some Romanians oppose the political union/close relations with Greece, claiming they are now ruled by Phanariotes. Nonetheless things go smoothly. King Carol I gives birth. Claims 1900. Sorry, Yi Sun Sin, but history speaks, and the Romanian majority of Transylvania cries out for Freedom According to the Government I understand the Hungarians would resist losing such a big part of the Hungarian crown. Thus instead of taking the entire region, like in World war 1, we ask only for 70% of the region, as 31% of the population is Hungarian. I understand if this is hard to take, no need to declare war. Just vocalizing that we want our Vampires back.
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Post by Yi Sun Sin on Mar 13, 2017 4:56:36 GMT
I wish to know what will happen if I refuse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 5:06:44 GMT
King Carol I gives birth...... Isn't that the Queen's business?
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 13, 2017 5:48:19 GMT
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