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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 18, 2017 17:54:10 GMT
Ahh, I'm an idiot. I bet he is purple. Free general which I've never used, hard to believe. |
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Post by forhonor on Mar 18, 2017 17:55:40 GMT
Idk why but I've always like Barbarossa. Looks really cool at lvl 6
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 18, 2017 18:01:18 GMT
Idk why but I've always like Barbarossa. Looks really cool at lvl 6 A General with neither plunder, Logistics, or Braveness. Yeah, I hear he can be considered good at level 6, but in my experience he is bad. Ignoring my subjective experience, at the same level as Caesar worse stats in every way (but thats because he is a gold general) Only good free general IMO: Alexander, maybe Saladin. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Mar 18, 2017 18:12:03 GMT
It doesn't help that Saladin is blue general. I have never used him, but I bet his health stat is low in comparison to the other big names. Will go check. Braveness: prevents damage (only one way of course) Logistics: heals all sustained damage Actually Logistics heals %12 of HP, not all sustained damage. If you are up against powerful enemies in later ages, not only will your general be hit trying to activate Logistics, but the health that he gets back probably won't be greater than the damage recieved. Especially against archers. Also, that's just assuming your general is strong enough to kill enemies consistently. If we are talking about enemy generals, it's going to take probably 3-5 hits or more and Logistics only activates on kills. So if Saladin has 1200 health and he is facing an enemy that takes 4 hits to kill (each retaliatory hit will deal 150 damage) then he will lose 600 damage and only recover 100 health. Then he has to face the hordes of enemies coming after that one. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Mar 18, 2017 18:16:19 GMT
Idk why but I've always like Barbarossa. Looks really cool at lvl 6 A General with neither plunder, Logistics, or Braveness. Yeah, I hear he can be considered good at level 6, but in my experience he is bad. Ignoring my subjective experience, at the same level as Caesar worse stats in every way (but thats because he is a gold general) Only good free general IMO: Alexander, maybe Saladin. Bismarck is up there with Li as one of the best artillery generals and Saladin can be the #2 cavalry general in any lineup easily. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 18, 2017 18:19:57 GMT
It doesn't help that Saladin is blue general. I have never used him, but I bet his health stat is low in comparison to the other big names. Will go check. Braveness: prevents damage (only one way of course) Logistics: heals all sustained damage Saladin is purple, and his health stat isn't miles behind our friend Attila. |
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Post by forhonor on Mar 18, 2017 18:22:49 GMT
True
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Post by Imperial RomeBall on Mar 18, 2017 18:28:22 GMT
It doesn't help that Saladin is blue general. I have never used him, but I bet his health stat is low in comparison to the other big names. Will go check. Braveness: prevents damage (only one way of course) Logistics: heals all sustained damage Actually Logistics heals %12 of HP, not all sustained damage. If you are up against powerful enemies in later ages, not only will your general be hit trying to activate Logistics, but the health that he gets back probably won't be greater than the damage recieved. Especially against archers. I'm well aware of that. I mean't that it heals a portion of any damage you receive. Braveness protects you on your turn, which is still very useful (you are liable to be hit when making good decisions, more important decisions) I agree to some extent. You must kill to activate logistics. Napoleon has plunder and gets no response though...(still, their turn...) |
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Post by best75 on Mar 18, 2017 21:45:11 GMT
I am a braveness person.
I use Genghis and Csesar together to effectively kill enemy generals and you will face lots of enemy generals on campaign.
Logostics still has its uses but I prefer braveness if I had to chose between the,.
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Post by jrdsandstorm on Mar 18, 2017 22:35:47 GMT
It depends on your play style. I like to set up combo kills where I weaken a group of enemies and then use Saladin to kill all of them in a chain of attacks, constantly charging and using his rage as it comes available. The logistics is very helpful here because if he took damage from archers earlier on, he gains literally 48% hp back in a single turn. I won't deny braveness is good as well, but it doesn't fit my play style.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 19, 2017 3:22:19 GMT
If it is ArchCom, Logistics no brainer. CavCom, both are necessary, Braveness a little more.
I'll choose Logistics since I'm going ArchCom.
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Post by Marshal Hugh Dowding on Mar 19, 2017 10:12:19 GMT
Yes, but, at least early on, you can't buy most of said items. So, later game, braveness might be better. Early on, logistics seems like the best choice. Yes but how many worthwhile generals can you get early on that have Logistics? Well for me, I will take braveness for certain units, such as cav and inf, while logistics is better for ranged units In the later eras, there are alot of enemy generals that give u alot of debuffs, cav and inf always get retailiated, thus braveness is crucial for them to just survive through a campaign, whereas archers and artillery can achieve no retailiation by s/l Of course, in conquest, logistics works alot better since it makes the general alot more durable and makes them more resisitant to disgusting conquest events such as plague and hunger, which reduce health. |
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Post by andrei on Mar 19, 2017 11:19:05 GMT
Yes but how many worthwhile generals can you get early on that have Logistics? Well for me, I will take braveness for certain units, such as cav and inf, while logistics is better for ranged units. Are there Archers with Braveness? I don't remember any. It would be almost useless for archers. So when speaking about Braveness vs Logistics there is no any reason to talk about ranged units  |
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Post by stoic on Mar 19, 2017 12:32:41 GMT
Well for me, I will take braveness for certain units, such as cav and inf, while logistics is better for ranged units. Are there Archers with Braveness? I don't remember any. It would be almost useless for archers. So when speaking about Braveness vs Logistics there is no any reason to talk about ranged units Well, "Volley" is some sort of "Braveness" when fighting against archers or when moves are impossible... |
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Post by Mountbatten on Mar 19, 2017 13:56:49 GMT
Yes but how many worthwhile generals can you get early on that have Logistics? Well for me, I will take braveness for certain units, such as cav and inf, while logistics is better for ranged units In the later eras, there are alot of enemy generals that give u alot of debuffs, cav and inf always get retailiated, thus braveness is crucial for them to just survive through a campaign, whereas archers and artillery can achieve no retailiation by s/l Of course, in conquest, logistics works alot better since it makes the general alot more durable and makes them more resisitant to disgusting conquest events such as plague and hunger, which reduce health. S/l doesn't exist in EW5 |
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