Survey For Potential War Situations

Isn't this a TW (yes, it is short for Theoretical War)?
Edit: Perhaps just change the name.

Just edit your post, any member has the power to edit his own posts (not the other people's posts ofc).
But I do also have a question to ask you... Is this going to be some kind of a game between forum members being played out on the forum? If that's how you intended it, then this thread need to be moved to the RP board.

Tagging Mountbatten just in case...

Not really. It's more of based on general knowlegde with or without detailed research, who do members think will win. Something ike a survey.

OH THAT... I got it.. I got it...

We had something like that called "Alternative Wars"
european-war-4.boards.net/thread/3469/alternative-war-2
I had to dig up all the way to page 14 of the Lounge in order to find this thread... Quite a while ago... lol.

Russia or Soviet Union? 


Russia would lose today. It has the edge in Tanks, but loses the Air and naval war. 

Its tactic of human waves wouldn't be very effective today, as USA has more than double its population now, and growing. Back then the Soviet Union had a lead of a few dozen million. 


No allies? 

If it was the Soviet union, I'd maybe say the USA would lose. After all, the US allies were generally stronger IMO. Could be wrong. 

If it was Russia, that would possibly increase USA chance of victory. Or not. Still I'm betting on USA. 


You say only through the Pacific seas and paratrooping? 


For most of the Cold War Soviet navy was weaker than USA navy, later on the Soviet Navy was a powerful rival.

HOWEVER, the Soviet navy focused on defense and interrupting routes, while the USA had a large advantage in Aircraft carriers and was designed for offensive campaigns. 

Edit: I'd not be surprised if the US navy was larger in Pacific, and the Soviet smaller. 

The modern Russian navy is a fraction of its former glory, and I doubt it could prevent US control of the seas. 



Notably, the Russian paratroopers would be cut to shreds by the USA Air force. 


So overall, Soviets have advantage on the defense but probably couldn't invade USA, at least at the beginning, and USA could both defend themselves against Russia but also invade it. 

If they just putted down the whole military of both countries in a field i would say the usa would win, so basically i think the us army is better

However, as it's a direct war i think the situation would become stale, with both countries uncapable of winning it.

How i think itll go:

First things first, russia is totally uncapable of getting on american soil. With both their navy and their airforce being outclassed by the americans i don't even think they will get close to american ground.

So with that being excluded we now move on to the other situation, an american invasion in russia. I do think the americans have the power to land in russia. However it's commonly agreed that a war on foreign soil is twice as hard as a war at home.

The us would need to face every single russian, including angry civilians, and beat them. Meanwhile the us won't ship everything of their army to the front, cause that leaves them too vulnerable at home.

To conclude i think the us needs at least 85% of their army to beat the russian one (which i can hardly believe the us would send away in a war outside their homecountry), and even then i'm not sure of the capability of the us army to conquer the whole russia, due to the civilian riots and other stuff. The us would never risk such a risky move as the gains don't make up for the losses.

There is a reason the cold war didn't happen right of the bat after ww2, both countries knew they weren't actually capable of defeating eachother, we must be glad it didn't happen.

would the cause of the war be apparent cause the us would see no real valued resources IMO in Russia but the Russians might want the alaskan oil or commence an attack on Japan
Edit: I read your first post no allies