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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Jul 28, 2017 21:01:24 GMT
So I have a doubt on my general path. I currently have Badoglio and around 300 badges. What general should be my next target? And should I get Vatutin or Itagaki? Which one is better on the long run? NOTE: I don't currently have any medal wonders. Also I will get Manstein very soon. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Jul 28, 2017 21:31:51 GMT
So I have a doubt on my general path. I currently have Badoglio and around 300 badges. What general should be my next target? And should I get Vatutin or Itagaki? Which one is better on the long run? NOTE: I don't currently have any medal wonders. Also I will get Manstein very soon. I'd say Ozawa. The experts can point out who is beter between Guderian and Govorov in this situation, but I suggest you pick up Ozawa befor either of the two, because of his budget air and navy. If you're getting Manstein, you probably don't need Vatutin/Itagaki, because they are budget Guderian/Mansteins and unless if you find everything hard you shouldn't need them. |
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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Jul 28, 2017 21:39:57 GMT
So I have a doubt on my general path. I currently have Badoglio and around 300 badges. What general should be my next target? And should I get Vatutin or Itagaki? Which one is better on the long run? NOTE: I don't currently have any medal wonders. Also I will get Manstein very soon. I'd say Ozawa. The experts can point out who is beter between Guderian and Govorov in this situation, but I suggest you pick up Ozawa befor either of the two, because of his budget air and navy. If you're getting Manstein, you probably don't need Vatutin/Itagaki, because they are budget Guderian/Mansteins and unless if you find everything hard you shouldn't need them. Would Ozawa make obtaining one of the Medal Wonders easier? Because that is being really annoying right now. I am hoping that after getting Manstein, with the cash left on my Google Play account, to get a few badges for another general, to help with my conquest efforts |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Jul 28, 2017 21:43:52 GMT
I'd say Ozawa. The experts can point out who is beter between Guderian and Govorov in this situation, but I suggest you pick up Ozawa befor either of the two, because of his budget air and navy. If you're getting Manstein, you probably don't need Vatutin/Itagaki, because they are budget Guderian/Mansteins and unless if you find everything hard you shouldn't need them. Would Ozawa make obtaining one of the Medal Wonders easier? Because that is being really annoying right now. I am hoping that after getting Manstein, with the cash left on my Google Play account, to get a few badges for another general, to help with my conquest efforts Play Japan 1939. Two eyecovers, 1 Bado and 1 Ozawa was what I used to unlock the Pyramids when I was playing (~9 months ago, so I might be wrong). For Cuzco, Uk or USSR seems like they are good. |
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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Jul 28, 2017 21:51:48 GMT
Would Ozawa make obtaining one of the Medal Wonders easier? Because that is being really annoying right now. I am hoping that after getting Manstein, with the cash left on my Google Play account, to get a few badges for another general, to help with my conquest efforts Play Japan 1939. Two eyecovers, 1 Bado and 1 Ozawa was what I used to unlock the Pyramids when I was playing (~9 months ago, so I might be wrong). For Cuzco, Uk or USSR seems like they are good. So I would get Ozawa then. Sounds good, I'm not too many badges behind to get him (around 200-300 more IIRC). Yeah I was planning the USSR and Japan to get each wonder, perhaps Japan first as it seems harder to do that under 65 than the USSR. And also, no Vatutin/Itagaki? |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Jul 28, 2017 21:59:39 GMT
Play Japan 1939. Two eyecovers, 1 Bado and 1 Ozawa was what I used to unlock the Pyramids when I was playing (~9 months ago, so I might be wrong). For Cuzco, Uk or USSR seems like they are good. So I would get Ozawa then. Sounds good, I'm not too many badges behind to get him (around 200-300 more IIRC). Yeah I was planning the USSR and Japan to get each wonder, perhaps Japan first as it seems harder to do that under 65 than the USSR. And also, no Vatutin/Itagaki? Yes, because Vatutin and Itagaki are budget tank gens, just like Ozawa is budget Yamamoto. Japan is easier than USSR because Japan has OP gens vs the mediocre Chinese/Oriental European nation gens, as well as Yamamoto on water, whereas the USSR faces a tonne of German panzer gens (not Mannerheim because he usually gets himself killed in Copenhagen). And Ozawa is a opinion from a guy who last played vanilla WC3 in September, so maybe the experts have differing opinions because of meta changes or just better knowledge. |
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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Jul 28, 2017 22:53:22 GMT
So I would get Ozawa then. Sounds good, I'm not too many badges behind to get him (around 200-300 more IIRC). Yeah I was planning the USSR and Japan to get each wonder, perhaps Japan first as it seems harder to do that under 65 than the USSR. And also, no Vatutin/Itagaki? Yes, because Vatutin and Itagaki are budget tank gens, just like Ozawa is budget Yamamoto. Japan is easier than USSR because Japan has OP gens vs the mediocre Chinese/Oriental European nation gens, as well as Yamamoto on water, whereas the USSR faces a tonne of German panzer gens (not Mannerheim because he usually gets himself killed in Copenhagen). And Ozawa is a opinion from a guy who last played vanilla WC3 in September, so maybe the experts have differing opinions because of meta changes or just better knowledge. Well I don't know, perhaps it was me not having any generals when I tried 1939 Japan and not coordinating my efforts to conquer North America and Eurasia at the same time. Perhaps coordinating more efforts into invading and controlling the United States, therefore allowing the D-Day landing to be Japan conquering Europe at the same time that the Chinese mainland forces arrive at Europe, after having crushed the Soviet Union. By that time the Europeans will have killed each other, and therefore most of the Allied generals and perhaps a few Axis cities for me to take for the sake of air strikes. |
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Post by Quintus Fabius on Jul 29, 2017 1:02:10 GMT
Yes, because Vatutin and Itagaki are budget tank gens, just like Ozawa is budget Yamamoto. Japan is easier than USSR because Japan has OP gens vs the mediocre Chinese/Oriental European nation gens, as well as Yamamoto on water, whereas the USSR faces a tonne of German panzer gens (not Mannerheim because he usually gets himself killed in Copenhagen). And Ozawa is a opinion from a guy who last played vanilla WC3 in September, so maybe the experts have differing opinions because of meta changes or just better knowledge. Well I don't know, perhaps it was me not having any generals when I tried 1939 Japan and not coordinating my efforts to conquer North America and Eurasia at the same time. Perhaps coordinating more efforts into invading and controlling the United States, therefore allowing the D-Day landing to be Japan conquering Europe at the same time that the Chinese mainland forces arrive at Europe, after having crushed the Soviet Union. By that time the Europeans will have killed each other, and therefore most of the Allied generals and perhaps a few Axis cities for me to take for the sake of air strikes. A good guide by the awesome Desophaeus is here. Another tip for you: Thomas "The @!#*?!% Guardian of Brisbane" Blamey is the final boss of any 1939 Japan run. You need tonnes of Carriers from Hawaii or waves of troops from Jakarta to bring his HP down because he has Fortification Lv3, and I guarantee he'll level and heal if you send too much troops. Have fun wasting Yamamoto's talents on an otherwise mediocre 3* arty gen. Edit: Another tip for speedruns: you only need to kill all generals and take all cities. Oils, ports, non-general troops, and whatnot surrender as soon as all generals and cities are dead. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jul 29, 2017 3:27:39 GMT
Another tip for you: Thomas "The @!#*?!% Guardian of Brisbane" Blamey is the final boss of any 1939 Japan run. You need tonnes of Carriers from Hawaii or waves of troops from Jakarta to bring his HP down because he has Fortification Lv3, and I guarantee he'll level and heal if you send too much troops. Have fun wasting Yamamoto's talents on an otherwise mediocre 3* arty gen. Edit: Another tip for speedruns: you only need to kill all generals and take all cities. Oils, ports, non-general troops, and whatnot surrender as soon as all generals and cities are dead. You just send your carrier and Pacific Naval gens to Brisbane after you take down all cities along the Pacific Ocean. Although you'll lose good gens but the combined Carrier airpower is enough to bring down Brisbane. Also conduct a full scale siege of Brisbane to further weaken Blamey as you take him down. |
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Post by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim on Jul 29, 2017 4:40:53 GMT
Well I don't know, perhaps it was me not having any generals when I tried 1939 Japan and not coordinating my efforts to conquer North America and Eurasia at the same time. Perhaps coordinating more efforts into invading and controlling the United States, therefore allowing the D-Day landing to be Japan conquering Europe at the same time that the Chinese mainland forces arrive at Europe, after having crushed the Soviet Union. By that time the Europeans will have killed each other, and therefore most of the Allied generals and perhaps a few Axis cities for me to take for the sake of air strikes. A good guide by the awesome Desophaeus is here. Another tip for you: Thomas "The @!#*?!% Guardian of Brisbane" Blamey is the final boss of any 1939 Japan run. You need tonnes of Carriers from Hawaii or waves of troops from Jakarta to bring his HP down because he has Fortification Lv3, and I guarantee he'll level and heal if you send too much troops. Have fun wasting Yamamoto's talents on an otherwise mediocre 3* arty gen. Edit: Another tip for speedruns: you only need to kill all generals and take all cities. Oils, ports, non-general troops, and whatnot surrender as soon as all generals and cities are dead. Oh, Brisbane isn't that much of an issue. My strategy is to seize Hawaii ASAP and start building a carrier every other turn and bringing them down to Brisbane, in order to over time build a fleet large enough to kill Blamey, while at the same time paratrooping and building forts and coastal artys. It usually falls either shortly after the USSR, the USA, or if I lagged too much with the Carriers or forgot about them a couple of turns shortly after the rest of the world, but never about 20 turns after or something. EDIT: So much for the final boss. Australia fell at round 30-ish. In my experience the final boss for any Axis/WTO conquest is either USA if you're in Europe or UK if you're in Asia. Anyways, finished in 62 turns, got the Europe Conqueror Achievement (or Asia, I forgot) and the Great Pyramids, and I built them already as well. I have not yet bought any generals, however, as I would like to wait for a few more opinions. However, I now have 2000 badges, thanks to the leftover money in my Google Play, so I'm not sure if that changes the course I should take. |
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