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Post by odm on Jan 27, 2018 16:23:26 GMT
Most likely because of political involvement Possibly. If you compare all gens that appear in conquest to WC3 gens lineup, Göring, I believe is one of, if not, the ONLY one gone. That's why I want to do a comparison of generals from GoG/WC3/WC4 (and maybe a bit of WC2 as well) to see how they evolved in all these years. Pretty pointless I must say, but I guess it would interesting enough. Tell me please if you would like that By the way, I hear many complain how many generals can't be bought. Would you get them if you could? I think ET did well to only allow us to buy decent and good generals only.
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Post by Józef Poniatowski on Feb 11, 2018 2:24:18 GMT
Most likely because of political involvement Possibly. If you compare all gens that appear in conquest to WC3 gens lineup, Göring, I believe is one of, if not, the ONLY one gone. There is also a good debate in whether or not he was a capable commander, many attribute the loss of the Battle over Britain to him as well as the decline over german air superiority over the course of the war
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Post by dwightdeisenhower on Feb 24, 2018 2:49:13 GMT
Hey guys, I’m looking to buy an Altillery general because I only have tank and a sea general, any recommendations? I am looking at govarov but I’m not sure.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Feb 24, 2018 3:17:41 GMT
Hey guys, I’m looking to buy an Altillery general because I only have tank and a sea general, any recommendations? I am looking at govarov but I’m not sure. Leeb or Konev at full discount are recommended. Note: Konev does need some upgrading to make him show off his true talent.
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Post by dwightdeisenhower on Feb 24, 2018 4:51:08 GMT
Thanks man, appreciate it.
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Post by Tamon Yamaguchi on Mar 2, 2018 23:30:14 GMT
Thanks man, appreciate it. To add at Nobunaga Oda's answer... Leonid Govorov really sucks in this game. He's not the guy in WC3 we used to know.
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Post by chassepatate on Mar 3, 2018 12:26:50 GMT
Indeed Leeb and Konev. Badaglio took a debuff in WC4. He was a beast in WC3 but he isn’t what he used to be
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Post by Gone on Jul 2, 2019 23:49:59 GMT
Infantry generals are completely optional because tank arguably outclasses Infantry as a main combatant. Infantry can still be useful to move in quickly to occupy cities and remove land mines and fortifications. But since Infantry generals are supposed to be used as a main damage dealer, they are arguably only useful on Commandos, which are outclassed by the Super Tank. Tanks in general are supposed to be slow, but tanks in this game are practically as fast as infantry. They are also have much more HP and deal much more damage.
To give you an idea, the first useful type of infantry as damage dealer is the Motorized Infantry. Has low HP and mediocre damage. Has a damage boost against armored units (Armored Cars and Tanks) and is more mobile when walking on terrains, which to be honest isn’t that great. You can just circumvent the terrain, and some skills give damage boosts when on certain terrains. It can be useful to reach a valuable city, though. The damage boost against armored units is 30% unupgraded, 40% with European tech and 50% with Pacific War tech.
Meanwhile, the third type of tank is the Medium Tank, which has good HP and damage and has a good speed. Comes with a chance to attack again after destroying a unit. 50% by default, becomes 75% with Pacific War tech (The chance is as high as the chance to trigger Rumor when on LV 5) and becomes guaranteed with Cold War tech. Also has a damage bonus against Infantry units which can be high as 55%. Useful for killing Infantry especially, but is useful as a main attacker.
The only useful types of infantry as damage dealers are the Mechanized Infantry, which takes greatly reduced damage from mines (Only 10% with Cold War tech) and deals up to 70% damage against strongholds with Cold War tech, and the Commandos, which have variable skills. But the Mechanized Infantry is the 4th type of Infantry while the Commandos are the 5th or “Special” type. The Mechanized Infantry has mediocre HP and ATT, can become good with Tech. The Commandos have good HP and ATT.
Meanwhile, The 4th type of Tank is the Heavy Tank, one of the most powerful units in the game. Has high damage and HP as well as the same range as a Howitzer. Has air device equipped (Which means it takes reduced damage from airstrikes) and the same chance to attack again and the bonus against infantry from the Medium Tank. The 5th or “Special” type of Tank is the Super Tank, which is basically an OP version of the Heavy Tank. Best land unit in the game along with the Super Rocket. The Soviets have BOTH.
Those are some of the reasons the Tank outclasses Infantry as a main combatant. Even the second type of Tank, the Light Tank, has a skill which is the chance to attack again after killing the enemy, while the second type of Infantry, the Assault Infantry, is useless as a combatant. Only good to remove mines and occupy cities quickly. You likely won’t ever use the Assault Infantry again after you get the tech upgrade that sends Motorized Infantry via parachutes instead.
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Post by Gone on Jul 3, 2019 0:06:59 GMT
1st type of Tank/Armored Unit: Armored Car. Mediocre HP and damage, has the “Machine Gun” skill which gives a damage boost agains Infantry. Useful as a cheap Infantry killer, but careful around Commandos if they have a damage boost against it (Yugoslavian, Finnish and Egyptian Commandos, as well as Terrorist Infantry) or if they are in a terrain that makes their damage higher. 1st type of Infantry Unit: Light Infantry. Absolutely useless. Terrible damage and HP. It is only useful for giving the enemy a morale raise and upping their rank. That alone makes it clear how Tank is better than Infantry as a main combatant.
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Post by Gone on Jul 3, 2019 0:18:01 GMT
Feel free to get an Infantry general (The best ones are Mannerheim and Yamashita). But be advised: In the Modern War campaign, the terrorists deal so much damage that they can most of the times one shot your Infantry generals. If not, they will reduce the HP by at least 1/3. Since tanks have a higher tolerance to damage, and since good tank generals can deal as much damage as a good infantry general, it is not recommended to bring Infantry gens for the Modern War campaign.
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