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Post by best75 on Sept 8, 2017 10:39:28 GMT
The Light Bringer , Thanks for the thread. Could You please explain a bit regarding Your recommendations A,B,C. There is no A recommended Artillery general. Is it because we do not really need artillery generals in campaigns/conquests? Or does it mean that all B recommended artillery generals have more or less same game value? In WC3 there were couple of really best artillerists among all of them. I think the current problem is all our current 6 star artillerty gnerals have a bad skill, so there is no "perfect" artillery general. Govorov has jungle fighting, Konev has raider, Zhukov has crossfire ( do you really want your artillert getting attacked by the enemy?)
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Post by The Light Bringer on Sept 8, 2017 11:23:43 GMT
The Light Bringer , Thanks for the thread. Could You please explain a bit regarding Your recommendations A,B,C. There is no A recommended Artillery general. Is it because we do not really need artillery generals in campaigns/conquests? Or does it mean that all B recommended artillery generals have more or less same game value? In WC3 there were couple of really best artillerists among all of them. I think the current problem is all our current 6 star artillerty gnerals have a bad skill, so there is no "perfect" artillery general. Govorov has jungle fighting, Konev has raider, Zhukov has crossfire ( do you really want your artillert getting attacked by the enemy?) I know, but there are only few options in this game and damage testing is the only way to tell actual output of generals in wc4😐
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Post by stoic on Sept 11, 2017 9:05:36 GMT
The Light Bringer , Thanks for the thread. Could You please explain a bit regarding Your recommendations A,B,C. There is no A recommended Artillery general. Is it because we do not really need artillery generals in campaigns/conquests? Or does it mean that all B recommended artillery generals have more or less same game value? In WC3 there were couple of really best artillerists among all of them. I think the current problem is all our current 6 star artillerty gnerals have a bad skill, so there is no "perfect" artillery general. Govorov has jungle fighting, Konev has raider, Zhukov has crossfire ( do you really want your artillert getting attacked by the enemy?) In fact I fear the day alliens will show up. In WC3 all 3 ECs had (or at least could have) 5 perfect skills. We do not have such privilege in WC4. If Panzer/Artillery/Infantry Leader doesn't work poperly as well - we are in deep trouble....
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Post by best75 on Sept 11, 2017 10:34:03 GMT
I think the current problem is all our current 6 star artillerty gnerals have a bad skill, so there is no "perfect" artillery general. Govorov has jungle fighting, Konev has raider, Zhukov has crossfire ( do you really want your artillert getting attacked by the enemy?) In fact I fear the day alliens will show up. In WC3 all 3 ECs had (or at least could have) 5 perfect skills. We do not have such privilege in WC4. If Panzer/Artillery/Infantry Leader doesn't work poperly as well - we are in deep trouble.... I need to mention this and to The Light Bringer , too. WC4 is a different game and I think leader skill is much better in WC4. I seen it activate on Manstein many times and the damage increase is quite significant.
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Post by best75 on Sept 11, 2017 10:56:53 GMT
.org/] [/url] Look at the damage!
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Sept 11, 2017 11:07:53 GMT
Look at the damage! First thought: SUPER TANKS IN FALL GELB?! (Recalls this is WC4, not WC3) Q: So is WC4 Fall Gelb easier than WC3's? I got before in WC3 stuck simply because the gen in Paris & Brussels refuse to be beaten.
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Post by best75 on Sept 11, 2017 11:12:31 GMT
Look at the damage! First thought: SUPER TANKS IN FALL GELB?! (Recalls this is WC4, not WC3) Q: So is WC4 Fall Gelb easier than WC3's? I got before in WC3 stuck simply because the gen in Paris & Brussels refuse to be beaten. This is conquest. Compared to WC3 the initial german attack on belgium and france is much stronger because of these tanks now.
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Post by The Light Bringer on Sept 11, 2017 14:24:47 GMT
Look at the damage! That asks for a revision, I'll try to find time in the other half of week to make it.
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Post by deadman on Sept 11, 2017 22:57:32 GMT
Alright Guderian is still king of tanks
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Post by USSR ball on Sept 13, 2017 10:54:38 GMT
I have read through the silver tier n i think artillery generals r not very recommended tho but i still enjoy having them on the battlefield b/c my most favorite unit is tank, the 2nd is artillery, the 3rd is aircraft n missle (even nuke) unit n 4th is naval unit n last one is infantry. The reason is because tank n artillery have most impact in result, aircraft b/c economic, i don't like using naval unit but i would still consider it b/c land unit is quite vulnerable in the water on wc4 now, infantry is the last one b/c even though they're good against some unit but due to the lack of health, they would ended up dying kinda fast
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Post by andrei on Sept 16, 2017 10:03:29 GMT
best75, Could You share Your experience regarding the movement characteristic of the general. In WC3 I found it to be one of the most important. For example I have Manerheim and Vasilevskiy but always was choosing Yamashito (even though he is only 4 star) when I used infantry general because of his movement. He can get to the target extremely fast.
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Post by best75 on Sept 16, 2017 10:54:12 GMT
best75 , Could You share Your experience regarding the movement characteristic of the general. In WC3 I found it to be one of the most important. For example I have Manerheim and Vasilevskiy but always was choosing Yamashito (even though he is only 4 star) when I used infantry general because of his movement. He can get to the target extremely fast. I only used Auchinleck and Leeb. They only have 1 star in so I am not experiencing much difference in their movement.
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Post by Singlemalt on Sept 16, 2017 13:01:36 GMT
best75, Could You share Your experience regarding the movement characteristic of the general. In WC3 I found it to be one of the most important. For example I have Manerheim and Vasilevskiy but always was choosing Yamashito (even though he is only 4 star) when I used infantry general because of his movement. He can get to the target extremely fast. For an infantery it still be can very handy. I use Mannenheim often by his spead. Thing is unit u put general on can be giving more movement and some generals can get extra movement stars so no definite answer by me
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Post by andrei on Sept 16, 2017 13:36:06 GMT
best75 , Could You share Your experience regarding the movement characteristic of the general. In WC3 I found it to be one of the most important. For example I have Manerheim and Vasilevskiy but always was choosing Yamashito (even though he is only 4 star) when I used infantry general because of his movement. He can get to the target extremely fast. For an infantery it still be can very handy. I use Mannenheim often by his spead. Thing is unit u put general on can be giving more movement and some generals can get extra movement stars so no definite answer by me Was often same story when choosing between Konev and Govorov. Govorov is better but less mobile... So would be great to listen about this issue in WC4
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Post by andrei on Sept 16, 2017 16:51:08 GMT
Looked through the generals.. There are only 2 real choices for the air general: Yamamoto and Dowding. Yamamoto is better as he could also be navy general (carriers). As I understand carrier requires air leader skill instead of ship leader skill....
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