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Post by best75 on Sept 12, 2017 23:47:04 GMT
He has not appeared in any of the ww2 campaign or ww2 conquests. If he is added than he will only be in the general shop
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Post by Minnesotaball on Sept 13, 2017 1:47:32 GMT
I wonder why they left out Goring? Maybe he will be added, but who knows.
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Sept 13, 2017 2:27:00 GMT
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Post by deadman on Sept 13, 2017 2:27:00 GMT
I wonder why they left out Goring? Maybe he will be added, but who knows. I think he was in the campaign in wc2 or gog, maybe both. |
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Post by Minnesotaball on Sept 13, 2017 2:38:50 GMT
I wonder why they left out Goring? Maybe he will be added, but who knows. I think he was in the campaign in wc2 or gog, maybe both. He was, but we are talking wc4. But I see no reason not to include him, we don't want less generals than wc3 same amount or more. |
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Post by kanue on Sept 14, 2017 16:45:11 GMT
There are a lot of generals that you can find in campaigns and conquest but are not available in the general shop. I do hope they will add more general soon but, honestly, I cannot think of any reason why ET does not put all generals in the shop from the beginning except for they don't plan to add them at all.
Anyway, in WC4, there are skills for air generals. e.g. airforce leader and carpet bombing, and since I see many of them have explosive skill, I guess the skill also works for air strike as well. So being a good airforce general in WC4 is not just about having 5 stars on airforce like in WC3 but also need a good set of skills as well.
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Goring
Sept 19, 2017 22:41:53 GMT
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Post by USSR ball on Sept 19, 2017 22:41:53 GMT
I've read some historical files about Goring, i don't know if this is true but he doesn't have any Luffwaffe experience n he also a useless fat man because his suggestion let the British n French forces in Dunkirk have a chance 2 escape
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Sept 19, 2017 23:08:14 GMT
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Post by andrei on Sept 19, 2017 23:08:14 GMT
I've read some historical files about Goring, i don't know if this is true but he doesn't have any Luffwaffe experience n he also a useless fat man because his suggestion let the British n French forces in Dunkirk have a chance 2 escape Goring was WWI ace. One of the best pilots and commanders. Organizer of the Reich's Luftwaffe before WWII. How could he considered to be useless fat man? |
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Sept 20, 2017 6:51:42 GMT
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Sept 20, 2017 6:51:42 GMT
I've read some historical files about Goring, i don't know if this is true but he doesn't have any Luffwaffe experience n he also a useless fat man because his suggestion let the British n French forces in Dunkirk have a chance 2 escape Goring was WWI ace. One of the best pilots and commanders. Organizer of the Reich's Luftwaffe before WWII. How could he considered to be useless fat man? cuz after he became marshal, he cared about nothing but cash. Also responsible for Stalingrad. |
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Sept 20, 2017 7:29:40 GMT
Post by stoic on Sept 20, 2017 7:29:40 GMT
Goring was WWI ace. One of the best pilots and commanders. Organizer of the Reich's Luftwaffe before WWII. How could he considered to be useless fat man? cuz after he became marshal, he cared about nothing but cash. Also responsible for Stalingrad. 1. He was responsible for Dunkirk, his arguments that Luftwaffe will finish off allied troops were decisive and Hitler ordered the panzer groups to stop. 2. He was responsible for failure in the Battle of Britain. His inconsistency saved Britain on the brink of collapse. He failed to fully understand radar and its implications. 3. He was responsible for promising that Luftwaffe is capable to supply 6th army in Stalingrad. 4. He was responsible for many failures in German war economy. Albert Speer commented in his book that if Goering did not understand a scientific development, he would not give that development his support and reported accordingly to Hitler. Speer claimed that the V weapons could have been ready two years before they were first used in 1944 but for the lack of support from Goering. Without any doubt he was a very capable piliot and a courageous person, but after he was injured during Beer Hall Putsch, he used drugs as painkillers intensively. And this can destroy anyone's mind and abilities. It is interesting that some German ww1 aces were prone to mental breakdowns. Another example is Ernst Udet. |
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Sept 20, 2017 7:51:26 GMT
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Sept 20, 2017 7:51:26 GMT
he was basically responsible for all air failures  |
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Sept 20, 2017 7:59:51 GMT
Post by stoic on Sept 20, 2017 7:59:51 GMT
he was basically responsible for all air failures Yes, but he remains ET's darling nevertheless  |
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Sept 20, 2017 8:27:53 GMT
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Post by andrei on Sept 20, 2017 8:27:53 GMT
Goring was WWI ace. One of the best pilots and commanders. Organizer of the Reich's Luftwaffe before WWII. How could he considered to be useless fat man? cuz after he became marshal, he cared about nothing but cash. Also responsible for Stalingrad. Doesn't mean he was useless. Yeah.. he wasn't good in WWII. He was very important in another period - time when Nazy were fighting to gain power in Germany. |
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Sept 20, 2017 8:48:43 GMT
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Post by USSR ball on Sept 20, 2017 8:48:43 GMT
cuz after he became marshal, he cared about nothing but cash. Also responsible for Stalingrad. Doesn't mean he was useless. Yeah.. he wasn't good in WWII. He was very important in another period - time when Nazy were fighting to gain power in Germany. Even though i love to research the ww1&2, i still do not very like the ideas of german government about declaring war on brits, french n russian b/c u guys already know that im from vietnam, a french colony. In ww1 we have to be the shield for the french soldiers in order to guarantee their people's safetiness. On the way to battlefield we saw the magic of their technology n the terror of trenches warfare |
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Goring
Sept 20, 2017 9:27:17 GMT
Post by andrei on Sept 20, 2017 9:27:17 GMT
Doesn't mean he was useless. Yeah.. he wasn't good in WWII. He was very important in another period - time when Nazy were fighting to gain power in Germany. Even though i love to research the ww1&2, i still do not very like the ideas of german government about declaring war on brits, french n russian b/c u guys already know that im from vietnam, a french colony. In ww1 we have to be the shield for the french soldiers in order to guarantee their people's safetiness. On the way to battlefield we saw the magic of their technology n the terror of trenches warfare I am not trying to support Goring or Nazy, but to say that Goring is useless is more or less the same as to say that Petain was nothing else but traitor. |
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Sept 20, 2017 10:19:23 GMT
Post by stoic on Sept 20, 2017 10:19:23 GMT
Even though i love to research the ww1&2, i still do not very like the ideas of german government about declaring war on brits, french n russian b/c u guys already know that im from vietnam, a french colony. In ww1 we have to be the shield for the french soldiers in order to guarantee their people's safetiness. On the way to battlefield we saw the magic of their technology n the terror of trenches warfare I am not trying to support Goring or Nazy, but to say that Goring is useless is more or less the same as to say that Petain was nothing else but traitor. Yet dark shadow will follow them forever, notwithstanding how impartial or unbiased we are trying to be. "Show no mercy. For you shall receive none". Aragorn, Lord of the Rings |
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