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Post by soonerjbd on Sept 19, 2017 20:56:42 GMT
I haven't done a lot of testing on Air Force leader yet. I just bought Yamamoto and fully upgraded him. One mitigating factor is that air defenses play a big role in how much damage you can do. Tech also makes a huge difference, although that is also true of every unit type. One other difficulty is that I haven't unlocked carpet bombing or the Air Force leader skills, so they are stuck at low levels. The leader abilities stack the damage from other skills, so if you have fully upgraded carpet bombing and you trigger Air Force leader, you are going to get a massive hit on a city. But there is no way to mitigate tank damage, so a fully upgraded tank general in a 3-stacked heavy is going to do monster numbers that can never be mitigated. Have you tried missiles? Their higher damage would likely cause a bigger increase in Airfare leader damage. Are we sure air abilities buff missiles? I haven't done anything with missiles yet because you don't get them in any scenarios (I powered through all the World War II scenarios and Cold War isn't available yet). I'm working on conquests now but haven't tackled 1943 yet. If I recall correctly, air attack didn't boost missile strikes in WC3. The other problem here is that air abilities don't unlock in current missions, at least not that I can find. The tooltip usually showing how to unlock them doesn't show anything. A couple of other skills don't unlock until Cold War scenarios, which aren't available yet. Does anyone know how to unlock carpet bombing and Air Force leader? |
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Post by andrei on Sept 19, 2017 21:01:59 GMT
But You have Yamamoto. He has airforce leader skill to test.
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Post by soonerjbd on Sept 19, 2017 21:22:37 GMT
But You have Yamamoto. He has airforce leader skill to test. Level one, which is an 8 percent chance. Makes it hard to get enough data. Also hard to see how big the potential effect is when you don't have maxed complimentary skills like carpet bombing. It may be a huge effect on a city when carpet bombing is level 5. Don't know how much air defense will mitigate it. |
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Post by best75 on Sept 19, 2017 23:22:23 GMT
Have you tried missiles? Their higher damage would likely cause a bigger increase in Airfare leader damage. Are we sure air abilities buff missiles? I haven't done anything with missiles yet because you don't get them in any scenarios (I powered through all the World War II scenarios and Cold War isn't available yet). I'm working on conquests now but haven't tackled 1943 yet. If I recall correctly, air attack didn't boost missile strikes in WC3. The other problem here is that air abilities don't unlock in current missions, at least not that I can find. The tooltip usually showing how to unlock them doesn't show anything. A couple of other skills don't unlock until Cold War scenarios, which aren't available yet. Does anyone know how to unlock carpet bombing and Air Force leader? Hmm I seem to remember air stars boosting missile damage in WC3. Will check when i get the chance. If the tooltip is not showing than maybe they will unlock in the scenario after cold war? |
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Post by soonerjbd on Sept 20, 2017 1:36:25 GMT
Are we sure air abilities buff missiles? I haven't done anything with missiles yet because you don't get them in any scenarios (I powered through all the World War II scenarios and Cold War isn't available yet). I'm working on conquests now but haven't tackled 1943 yet. If I recall correctly, air attack didn't boost missile strikes in WC3. The other problem here is that air abilities don't unlock in current missions, at least not that I can find. The tooltip usually showing how to unlock them doesn't show anything. A couple of other skills don't unlock until Cold War scenarios, which aren't available yet. Does anyone know how to unlock carpet bombing and Air Force leader? Hmm I seem to remember air stars boosting missile damage in WC3. Will check when i get the chance. If the tooltip is not showing than maybe they will unlock in the scenario after cold war? If we have to wait that long to unlock the two best air skills, then air power is a joke in this game. It's already cost prohibitive in most circumstances. |
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Post by Singlemalt on Sept 20, 2017 5:28:14 GMT
I dont believe air isnt usefull. I still use it against generlas especially non tank units. I didnt try the missile wuestion and dont have a conquest available to check it.
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Post by ray on Sept 20, 2017 6:01:30 GMT
I've tested missile with my air general, it does boost it's damage No general .org/image/jlqpgb805/]  [/url] General .org/image/4eapvyg5h/]  [/url] |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Sept 20, 2017 6:47:07 GMT
I dont believe air isnt usefull. I still use it against generlas especially non tank units. I didnt try the missile wuestion and dont have a conquest available to check it. air is only good for speeding stuff on at endgame, great for speed conquests. Not so good on other situations. |
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Post by andrei on Sept 20, 2017 8:22:53 GMT
I dont believe air isnt usefull. I still use it against generlas especially non tank units. I didnt try the missile wuestion and dont have a conquest available to check it. air is only good for speeding stuff on at endgame, great for speed conquests. Not so good on other situations. Isn't speed main issue in the conquest? Conquest can be done with any team or even without generals sometimes. It is only about time  Time you spend to farm resources. |
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Sept 20, 2017 8:58:23 GMT
If I recall correctly, air attack didn't boost missile strikes in WC3. In WC3 air stars increase missiles damage if missile is without nuke. The same with strategic bombers. Air stars has no effect if it drops nuke, but if it just bombards, air stars increase damage. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Sept 20, 2017 15:32:07 GMT
If I recall correctly, air attack didn't boost missile strikes in WC3. In WC3 air stars increase missiles damage if missile is without nuke. The same with strategic bombers. Air stars has no effect if it drops nuke, but if it just bombards, air stars increase damage. That was my mistake. I remember specifically air stars did nothing on nuke strikes. Wasn't sure if it buffed missiles otherwise. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 4, 2019 3:49:55 GMT
If you unlock a skill via city capturing, do you need to complete the scenario or you can just leave? I managed to capture the city with the green ring in Operation Barbarossa but it will be impossible to complete the level successfully.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 4, 2019 10:46:06 GMT
If you unlock a skill via city capturing, do you need to complete the scenario or you can just leave? I managed to capture the city with the green ring in Operation Barbarossa but it will be impossible to complete the level successfully. I believe so yeah. The skill is accuracy so try to add it to one of your generals to find out. Usually once the skill icon pops up you have it. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 4, 2019 10:56:25 GMT
If you unlock a skill via city capturing, do you need to complete the scenario or you can just leave? I managed to capture the city with the green ring in Operation Barbarossa but it will be impossible to complete the level successfully. Just need to capture the city, no need to complete the scenario. I did like that many times in both WC3 and WC4. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 4, 2019 16:14:39 GMT
If you unlock a skill via city capturing, do you need to complete the scenario or you can just leave? I managed to capture the city with the green ring in Operation Barbarossa but it will be impossible to complete the level successfully. Just need to capture the city, no need to complete the scenario. I did like that many times in both WC3 and WC4. Thank you! I was afraid to play a new level because I didn’t know if I just needed to capture the city or complete the scenario too. |
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