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Post by NetherFreek on Nov 3, 2017 21:08:37 GMT
I guess it's a hybrid, as troops with low morale will take more damage also. Are you sure troops with low morale take more damage? Checking unit stats after low morale, only their attack decrease, their defense stays the same. Thought the same, as that was the case with their earlier games. |
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Post by best75 on Nov 3, 2017 21:09:44 GMT
I guess it's a hybrid, as troops with low morale will take more damage also. Really? That wasn't the case with previous games like wc3 and ew5.. did that change with wc4? Troops with Low morale acually did take more damage in EW5 because their defense was lowered. It does not appear to be the same for WC4 because their defense remains the same after low morale. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 3, 2017 22:36:24 GMT
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 4, 2017 5:08:44 GMT
On the topic of skills, Leeb has Plain Fighting, Rumour, arty Leader & 1 blank.
Should I wait for arty barrage or get something else?
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Post by best75 on Nov 4, 2017 5:57:32 GMT
On the topic of skills, Leeb has Plain Fighting, Rumour, arty Leader & 1 blank. Should I wait for arty barrage or get something else? What about adding accuracy to leeb? |
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Post by NetherFreek on Nov 4, 2017 6:27:40 GMT
I'll open up a new thread regarding this topic. |
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Post by soonerjbd on Nov 9, 2017 8:43:48 GMT
I still think Blitzkrieg is going to be useful on a top tank general. You aren’t taking a lot of hits, but over the course of a conquest or in Modern Warfare scenarios, you will still be getting hit. Blitzkrieg lowers incoming damage tremendously.
We’ve gone round and round on Rumor. I prefer straight damage abilities for my top rank general. Rumor is fine for other generals is you like it. I’m generally not hanging around long enough to see much benefit from it except on naval battles.
My five abilities for a custom tank general would be:
- Panzer Leader
- Armored Assault
- Blitzkrieg
- Plain Fighting
- Explosives
With medals for Panzer Leader, Armored Assault and Plain Fighting, you have an absolute damage making monster.
Artillery commanders are a bit different. Artillery Barrage isn’t spectacular because you have to be below half HP, and artillery are already squishy. I think you could pick Artillery Leader, Accuracy, Explosives, Jungle Fighting (or plain) and a utility skill like Rumor or Machinist or something for that last spot. Ace Forces is also a solid choice. It provides decent increased damage output over time.
There aren’t that many great naval skills, so you could easily make your naval commander a hybrid.
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Post by stoic on Nov 9, 2017 8:57:42 GMT
I still think Blitzkrieg is going to be useful on a top tank general. You aren’t taking a lot of hits, but over the course of a conquest or in Modern Warfare scenarios, you will still be getting hit. Blitzkrieg lowers incoming damage tremendously. We’ve gone round and round on Rumor. I prefer straight damage abilities for my top rank general. Rumor is fine for other generals is you like it. I’m generally not hanging around long enough to see much benefit from it except on naval battles. My five abilities for a custom tank general would be: - Panzer Leader - Armored Assault - Blitzkrieg - Plain Fighting - Explosives With medals for Panzer Leader, Armored Assault and Plain Fighting, you have an absolute damage making monster. Artillery commanders are a bit different. Artillery Barrage isn’t spectacular because you have to be below half HP, and artillery are already squishy. I think you could pick Artillery Leader, Accuracy, Explosives, Jungle Fighting (or plain) and a utility skill like Rumor or Machinist or something for that last spot. Ace Forces is also a solid choice. It provides decent increased damage output over time. There aren’t that many great naval skills, so you could easily make your naval commander a hybrid. I'm convinced that it is very usefull for the rest of the world that players with Dream Teams take a different approach. I mean Rumor vs. additional damage... In the end, you may be right, proponents of Rumor maybe right or both approaches may be valiid and work well. And we, mere mortals  , can wait before make a final decision... |
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Post by soonerjbd on Nov 9, 2017 9:02:00 GMT
I still think Blitzkrieg is going to be useful on a top tank general. You aren’t taking a lot of hits, but over the course of a conquest or in Modern Warfare scenarios, you will still be getting hit. Blitzkrieg lowers incoming damage tremendously. We’ve gone round and round on Rumor. I prefer straight damage abilities for my top rank general. Rumor is fine for other generals is you like it. I’m generally not hanging around long enough to see much benefit from it except on naval battles. My five abilities for a custom tank general would be: - Panzer Leader - Armored Assault - Blitzkrieg - Plain Fighting - Explosives With medals for Panzer Leader, Armored Assault and Plain Fighting, you have an absolute damage making monster. Artillery commanders are a bit different. Artillery Barrage isn’t spectacular because you have to be below half HP, and artillery are already squishy. I think you could pick Artillery Leader, Accuracy, Explosives, Jungle Fighting (or plain) and a utility skill like Rumor or Machinist or something for that last spot. Ace Forces is also a solid choice. It provides decent increased damage output over time. There aren’t that many great naval skills, so you could easily make your naval commander a hybrid. I'm convinced that it is very usefull for the rest of the world that players with Dream Teams take a different approach. I mean Rumor vs. additional damage... In the end, you may be right, proponents of Rumor maybe right or both approaches may be valiid and work well. And we, mere mortals , can wait before make a final decision... I am positive both will work. If you are going for speed, though, Damage build is the way to go. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 9, 2017 9:21:08 GMT
I still think Blitzkrieg is going to be useful on a top tank general. You aren’t taking a lot of hits, but over the course of a conquest or in Modern Warfare scenarios, you will still be getting hit. Blitzkrieg lowers incoming damage tremendously. We’ve gone round and round on Rumor. I prefer straight damage abilities for my top rank general. Rumor is fine for other generals is you like it. I’m generally not hanging around long enough to see much benefit from it except on naval battles. My five abilities for a custom tank general would be: - Panzer Leader - Armored Assault - Blitzkrieg - Plain Fighting - Explosives With medals for Panzer Leader, Armored Assault and Plain Fighting, you have an absolute damage making monster. Artillery commanders are a bit different. Artillery Barrage isn’t spectacular because you have to be below half HP, and artillery are already squishy. I think you could pick Artillery Leader, Accuracy, Explosives, Jungle Fighting (or plain) and a utility skill like Rumor or Machinist or something for that last spot. Ace Forces is also a solid choice. It provides decent increased damage output over time. There aren’t that many great naval skills, so you could easily make your naval commander a hybrid. Sounds like Manstein. Tide of iron can be also nice, a close contest with explosives. Making naval ones a hybrid does seem a good idea, just give Yamamoto some inf skills and he will be as ready as Goring. |
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Post by andrei on Nov 9, 2017 9:47:35 GMT
I still think Blitzkrieg is going to be useful on a top tank general. You aren’t taking a lot of hits, but over the course of a conquest or in Modern Warfare scenarios, you will still be getting hit. Blitzkrieg lowers incoming damage tremendously. We’ve gone round and round on Rumor. I prefer straight damage abilities for my top rank general. Rumor is fine for other generals is you like it. I’m generally not hanging around long enough to see much benefit from it except on naval battles. My five abilities for a custom tank general would be: - Panzer Leader - Armored Assault - Blitzkrieg - Plain Fighting - Explosives With medals for Panzer Leader, Armored Assault and Plain Fighting, you have an absolute damage making monster. Artillery commanders are a bit different. Artillery Barrage isn’t spectacular because you have to be below half HP, and artillery are already squishy. I think you could pick Artillery Leader, Accuracy, Explosives, Jungle Fighting (or plain) and a utility skill like Rumor or Machinist or something for that last spot. Ace Forces is also a solid choice. It provides decent increased damage output over time. There aren’t that many great naval skills, so you could easily make your naval commander a hybrid. I'm convinced that it is very usefull for the rest of the world that players with Dream Teams take a different approach. I mean Rumor vs. additional damage... In the end, you may be right, proponents of Rumor maybe right or both approaches may be valiid and work well. And we, mere mortals , can wait before make a final decision... There will be no final decision. It is all about play-style. As for me I think PF/JF/MF is way too situational for a tank general. Even with Manstein first reason to place him in a battlefield is not a terrain type, but the quantity of enemies he can hit same turn. In case there is a choice whether to place him in Plains and reach only 1-2 enemy units and to place him any other tile and to reach 3-4 unit... the choice is easy for me. I am placing him so he can kill as many units as possible same turn. In conquests there are a lot of infantry and artillery units You can easily kill even with Your 3rd tank general (without medals) like Rokossovskiy for example, so there is simply no need for additional damage from PF/MF/JF. |
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el
Corporal
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Post by el on Jun 5, 2019 11:10:03 GMT
Can the skills we add be removed?the optional ones,the ones you insert in a free slot.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 5, 2019 11:57:01 GMT
Can the skills we add be removed?the optional ones,the ones you insert in a free slot. You can swap them out for other skills. You'll get a refund (not sure if it's 80% or 100% refund) of the cost of the original skill then you'll immediately pay the cost of the new skill. |
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tomoyukiyamashita
First Lieutenant
Bing Crosby in wc4 is a pro player and a helpful member, wish to give him badge and cookie!
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Post by tomoyukiyamashita on Jun 5, 2019 12:39:35 GMT
80% yes
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el
Corporal
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Post by el on Jun 5, 2019 16:43:02 GMT
Thank you.So polite.Needed that info.
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, can wait before make a final decision...
