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Post by Red Cat Modding on Nov 18, 2017 18:16:52 GMT
If they make ww2 games they could atleast put the effort in it, even modders can do it! They don't have to put in countries like liechtenstein and san marino, but they could atleast add luxembourg. And OK, Luxembourg would be 1 tile big, so the whole balance is messed up, but you get what i mean. This is almost fixed in WC4 though, but in WC3, why does Denmark parachute into your territory when playing as Germany in 1939? WC3 vanilla was a pay to win game (but you need to pay only once, cause when you got good generals you can play the game good). They did put effort in WC4, but they didn't make a whole new thing, they added little things such as removing border gore, a diplomacy system, the domination game mode and new campaign levels, but this isnt the same as like EW5 cause thats a whole new game.
Moderated by Saltin : Edited for language.
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Post by andrei on Nov 18, 2017 18:38:03 GMT
If they make ww2 games they could atleast put the effort in it, even modders can do it! They don't have to put in countries like liechtenstein and san marino, but they could atleast add luxembourg. And OK, Luxembourg would be 1 tile big, so the whole balance is messed up, but you get what i mean. This is almost fixed in WC4 though, but in WC3, why does Denmark parachute into your territory when playing as Germany in 1939? WC3 vanilla was a pay to win game (but you need to pay only once, cause when you got good generals you can play the game good). They did put effort in WC4, but they didn't make a whole new thing, they added little things such as removing border gore, a diplomacy system, the domination game mode and new campaign levels, but this isnt the same as like EW5 cause thats a whole new game. EW5 and GOG2:Ace were failure. It is reasonable they have taken best ideas from these projects to update WC franchise. They couldn't risk with WC. Who needs Luxemburg? How do You feel playing Belgium? You need Luxemburg. Guys from Baltic states want Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. It will all end with ruined balance and map full of cities. I prefer WC3 with new ideas - better version, than another GoG2:Ace |
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Post by Red Cat Modding on Nov 18, 2017 18:39:46 GMT
andrei, i agree with you, but adding more countries is the least they could do
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Post by Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb on Nov 18, 2017 18:47:11 GMT
Red Cat Modding , but people liked neither EW5 nor GoG2, their two most revolutionairy games, just because of that. The "WC3 recipe" was successful, so they decided to make WC4 in a similar way. From a marketing prospective, ET did well. WC4 is a successful game after all. And no border gore, diplomacy (even though it's crap), domination and new more accurate campaigns aren't little things. The graphic's design may look like WC3, but that's all they have in common. Edit: I didn't see andrei's post
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 18, 2017 19:50:13 GMT
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb, i know its different, for me it looks TOO much to WC3. Why didnt they add Vietnam, Indonesia, Libya, Luxembourgh, East and West Germany, Laos, Cambodia (i honestly thought cambodia was going to be a country when i saw Phnom Pehn) , the Chinese civil war, why is Spain playable in 1939 and 1943, why does the Soviet Union immediatly attack Germany in 1939? You're asking for perfection as far as the AI is concerned. Plus it would be infuriating if I was playing as Axis 1939 and then Germany gets floor wiped by the Russians by turn 20. As for the countries, if they added all of those in there would be 10 one star countries with one city each and weaker two star and 3 star countries. Also you say that they barely added anything, then proceed to list 5 things that were added. They definitely added more playability to the game with Domination, there isn't any denying that. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 18, 2017 23:42:56 GMT
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb , i know its different, for me it looks TOO much to WC3. Why didnt they add Vietnam, Indonesia, Libya, Luxembourgh, East and West Germany, Laos, Cambodia (i honestly thought cambodia was going to be a country when i saw Phnom Pehn) , the Chinese civil war, why is Spain playable in 1939 and 1943, why does the Soviet Union immediatly attack Germany in 1939? You're asking for perfection as far as the AI is concerned. Plus it would be infuriating if I was playing as Axis 1939 and then Germany gets floor wiped by the Russians by turn 20. As for the countries, if they added all of those in there would be 10 one star countries with one city each and weaker two star and 3 star countries. Also you say that they barely added anything, then proceed to list 5 things that were added. They definitely added more playability to the game with Domination, there isn't any denying that. Well, compared to EW4>EW5 and WC2>WC3 updates, WC3>WC4 update is very mere, I should say, and they've been working on it for months, twice as long as normal game! |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 18, 2017 23:49:06 GMT
You're asking for perfection as far as the AI is concerned. Plus it would be infuriating if I was playing as Axis 1939 and then Germany gets floor wiped by the Russians by turn 20. As for the countries, if they added all of those in there would be 10 one star countries with one city each and weaker two star and 3 star countries. Also you say that they barely added anything, then proceed to list 5 things that were added. They definitely added more playability to the game with Domination, there isn't any denying that. Well, compared to EW4>EW5 and WC2>WC3 updates, WC3>WC4 update is very mere, I should say, and they've been working on it for months, twice as long as normal game! EW5 was a disappointment while WC3 was a large success. Of course they followed the same guideline that they previously laid out. But they expanded on it and made it better. |
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Post by Leonid Govorov on Nov 19, 2017 1:11:57 GMT
Well, compared to EW4>EW5 and WC2>WC3 updates, WC3>WC4 update is very mere, I should say, and they've been working on it for months, twice as long as normal game! EW5 was a disappointment while WC3 was a large success. Of course they followed the same guideline that they previously laid out. But they expanded on it and made it better. Well, though there's a big improvement that makes WC4 more enjoyable than WC3, I agree with that, but imo they should try something new. |
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Post by USSR ball on Nov 19, 2017 2:37:11 GMT
This is coming very intense -_–"
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 19, 2017 3:11:47 GMT
EW5 was a disappointment while WC3 was a large success. Of course they followed the same guideline that they previously laid out. But they expanded on it and made it better. Well, though there's a big improvement that makes WC4 more enjoyable than WC3, I agree with that, but imo they should try something new. They tried something new twice and got spit on for it. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 19, 2017 3:12:49 GMT
This is coming very intense -_–" Not really, I'm just sharing my opinions. I'd do it all in one post but unfortunately I don't have all of my points at the forefront of my mind at once |
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Post by lopicko on Nov 19, 2017 4:09:48 GMT
Interesting discussion u guys got here. Here's my opinion.. World conqueror 4 is almost the same as world conqueror 3. Just with more features. ---- Well of course. What were you expecting? It is the same as saying wolfenstein the old blood is almost the same as the latest wolfenstein the new order. Unless you want them to revert back to wc2 and wc1 type of gameplay ( which I am okay with it too) I remember reading that they should add more country in conquest. I have to agree on this point. Adding a few country is not that difficult as even modders are able to do it. As proven in the Baidu goring mod with Chinese civil war added into 1939 conquest. ( not that I played that mod before since I am running on iOS ) GOG2 Ace has bad reputation. Other than waiting for the medal and green chip grind and the shorting pvp where ai controls for you. I would say it is not a bad Try at something new. Unfortunately it received negative reviews from the players. ET then released ew5 which is not as popular as EW4. But the game was another experiment. IMO there is only 2 things wrong with EW5. The grind for materials is too much. Especially literature. That is a major turn off. The amount of hq exp gain per task completed is too much. This result in enemies becoming overbearingly strong if you couldn't upgrade your empire age to keep up. In conclusion wc4 is just another experiment where ET wants to test the reactions of the players of they combine the best parts of WC3 and EW5 and hope that it works out for them this time. After failing twice you just want to taste success again. My Guess is even though wc4 is not as well received as wc3, it could still be consider a successful game. Let's just hope GOG 3 will be new and everyone will be able to enjoy the game and may it even surpass the popularity of wc3. Cheers people  |
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Post by Saltin on Nov 20, 2017 10:34:26 GMT
For the main topic of discussion: WC4 not having enough countries. The reason for this is too many countries would slow performance on phones and also use more CPU power and burn battery life. Don't you have these games drain your phone battery so fast? so yeah it's a trade off. As to the other topics covered, I think the standard is set too high. The benchmark in judging Easytech is to compare them to their peers: other gaming company that make mobile strategy games that run on regular phone. This is not HOI Apple store feature a fairly small selection of quality strategy games similar to Easytech tittles and Android store has even less and yet both stores have millions of tittles (mostly garbage if you ask me  ) As to GoG2 and EW5, both weren't blockbusters but I disagree they were failures,both games had over 100k dl's just in Google store and the former still has a 4.2 rating which is a very good rating. EW5 still generated about 6000 posts here in EFC so while not earth shattering is still fairly respectable number. Many EFC players have enjoyed playing both games and I suspect many of them will do so again after they complete WC4. |
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Post by Red Cat Modding on Nov 20, 2017 11:14:32 GMT
Mountbatten, i agree, if they added more little countries the balance would be messed up, you convinced me xD
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Post by Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb on Nov 20, 2017 12:21:54 GMT
Mountbatten, i agree, if they added more little countries the balance would be messed up, you convinced me xD I think you mean Saltin |
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