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Post by stoic on Jun 27, 2019 9:03:29 GMT
Ah graziani, was thinking of infantry but I couldnt remember which hybrid he was exaclty I dont use him often  "Ace forces" is good for everyone, as well as "Rumor" (potentially). "Mountain fighting" is valid for every land unit, and "Machinist" for both tanks and Artillery. I would say if he had 5 stars in Artillery instead of Infantry - he would be the third best Artillery general in the game (after Konev and Leeb). Maybe, even second best, for he has better survivability than Leeb... And he can use 3 medals otherwise useless, improving Ace forces, Mountain fighting and Machinist... |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 27, 2019 9:12:57 GMT
Ah graziani, was thinking of infantry but I couldnt remember which hybrid he was exaclty I dont use him often "Ace forces" is good for everyone, as well as "Rumor" (potentially). "Mountain fighting" is valid for every land unit, and "Machinist" for both tanks and Artillery. I would say if he had 5 stars in Artillery instead of Infantry - he would be the third best Artillery general in the game (after Konev and Leeb). Maybe, even second best, for he has better survivability than Leeb... And he can use 3 medals otherwise useless, improving Ace forces, Mountain fighting and Machinist... yep not having pf doesnt hurt him as much compared to his other skills |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 27, 2019 9:13:38 GMT
but then again the axis powers wont be able to break through stalingrad in 1939 and 1943 without both messe and graziani on tanks to support the other balkan powers |
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Post by Gone on Jun 27, 2019 14:07:11 GMT
Tank navy: Eisenhower Artillery Air: Dowding, Arnold Navy Air: Nimitz, Halsey, Yamamoto, Nagumo Tank Infantry: Guderian, Rokossovsky, Rommel Artillery Infantry: Arnold, Zhukov, Konev Tank Air: Eisenhower Infantry air: Rundstedt Infantry navy: Yamashita(weak) Tank artillery: Chuikov, Bradley, Leeb, Rommel Navy Artillery: Yamamoto, Donitz, Kuznetsov, Nimitz I will end up buying Rommel and Konev anyway, so I already have my 3 hybrids. |
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Post by Gone on Jul 9, 2019 22:37:13 GMT
Tank navy: Eisenhower Artillery Air: Dowding, Arnold Navy Air: Nimitz, Halsey, Yamamoto, Nagumo Tank Infantry: Guderian, Rokossovsky, Rommel Artillery Infantry: Arnold, Zhukov, Konev Tank Air: Eisenhower Infantry air: Rundstedt Infantry navy: Yamashita(weak) Tank artillery: Chuikov, Bradley, Leeb, Rommel Navy Artillery: Yamamoto, Donitz, Kuznetsov, Nimitz Don’t forget Manstein that has 5 in Infantry, 4 in artillery, 4 in navy and 5 in air. Now that’s someone that can be everything. |
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Post by Gone on Jul 10, 2019 2:28:25 GMT
Yamamoto is in an embrassing position . Donitz have more 22 naval damage than Yamamoto (wolfpack also buff the generals for whatever reason ) Dowdling with around 1700 (with 2 mobility upgrades) can do the land-air with more level on explosive and sometimes a carrier role ( i mean who let their carrier in dangerous spot anyways ) . With extra 2 slot , you lacking option for him to go naval or air . With naval , the best choice is naval leader and rumor but hey donitz is there with a little more cost but come with higher level skill Going full air is the best option by giving him filling two expert skill and levelling his airforce leader and carpet bombing role (but i mean who put their generals all time in city anyways) . The land role is the most embrassing as i mention dowdling with extra upgrades can be equally similar at lower cost .Worst , donitz with upgrades on artillery and rumor can be a really good artillery generals (a weird role for him to help with rommel discount mission ) as artillery role. In conclusion , yamamoto is jack of all trades. , master of none but it is better for us to buy more generals to avoid lacking someone to fill a role when the supposed role have to be assigned elsewhere I agree. I don’t really think you need donitz either. Why not use Kuznetsov on artillery. He won’t move as fast, but he is 1/3 of donitz’s price tag, and starts off arguably better. Just upgrade his rumor to lvl 5 and you can use him on anything. Donitz is also ridiculously expensive. In my opinion, the only really expensive general worth getting is Guderian, maybe Rokossovsky if you can’t get Rommel discounted. Bruchminati uses Rokossovsky alongside Rommel, Manstein and Guderian. Konstantin is surprisingly useful, even when sitting next to these other 3. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 10, 2019 2:43:25 GMT
I agree. I don’t really think you need donitz either. Why not use Kuznetsov on artillery. He won’t move as fast, but he is 1/3 of donitz’s price tag, and starts off arguably better. Just upgrade his rumor to lvl 5 and you can use him on anything. Donitz is also ridiculously expensive. In my opinion, the only really expensive general worth getting is Guderian, maybe Rokossovsky if you can’t get Rommel discounted. Bruchminati uses Rokossovsky alongside Rommel, Manstein and Guderian. Konstantin is surprisingly useful, even when sitting next to these other 3. Don’t forget that bruchminati is a youtuber and he plays mostly conquest, for which tank generals are key. He also has Montgomery for the memes. But you are right. Rokossovksy with tide of iron, pf, panzer leader, and aa can be one of the strongest generals in that game, only one skill away from a manstein. Rommel actually has crossfire instead of tide of iron. This is a really good skill and rommel can be one of the strongest defenders in the game. But you don’t actually watch this skill in action as it is a counterattack skill. |
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Post by Gone on Jul 10, 2019 2:59:02 GMT
It’s not that hard, really. Skills only get expensive after Level 3, and Level 3 is enough to make most of them trigger regularly. One of his skills is already Level 3 which is luckily his strongest skill. There is no need to upgrade Shelter as the enemies barely use missiles. Tide of Iron can be useful for Modern War where basically every tank is a Vatutin without skills.
This means that you will only need to upgrade Armored Assault, Plain Fighting and Tide of Iron to Level 3 which won’t cost you more than medals. With that, BAM! Enjoy one of the strongest gens in the game.
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Post by Gone on Jul 10, 2019 3:04:37 GMT
Shifting back to Yamamoto, I figured out that he can be your solution if you have the problem of needing 1 navy general aside from Nimitz (The most popular choice is Kuznetsov) and 1 air general, but then not having enough tank and artillery generals. His price is because he is essentially 1 navy general and 1 air general fused together.
Even then, though, I don’t think more than 1 navy general is necessary, and thus you could simply get a cheap but useful navy gen until you get Nimitz, then sell that navy gen. Especially since Nimitz is a navy general that is also well-capable as an air general himself.
In a way, Yamamoto is a shortcut to one of the best air/navy generals if you can’t get past Nimitz's discount missions. Which isn’t necessary as you don’t even need air and navy generals to get past his final mission. Just HQ Level 30 to use some Super Carriers, some Carriers and a few destroyers. Kuznetsov and Arnold can be helpful, however.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 10, 2019 2:15:02 GMT
imagine if yamamoto had precision instead of carpet bombing. Then you could simply give him artillery leader and navy leader, and he’ll be lin b on land while also eisenhower in the ocean, and arnold on carriers.
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Post by Jeanne d'Arc on Aug 10, 2019 12:31:03 GMT
imagine if yamamoto had precision instead of carpet bombing. Then you could simply give him artillery leader and navy leader, and he’ll be lin b on land while also eisenhower in the ocean, and arnold on carriers. Best bloody idea in human existence! |
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Post by Gone on Aug 10, 2019 22:01:10 GMT
imagine if yamamoto had precision instead of carpet bombing. Then you could simply give him artillery leader and navy leader, and he’ll be lin b on land while also eisenhower in the ocean, and arnold on carriers. Best bloody idea in human existence! I agree! |
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Post by Gone on Aug 10, 2019 22:03:37 GMT
But unfortunately, Yamamoto's hybrid capabilities aren’t really enough to justify his price. I rate him 4.5/5
If you buy him, you won’t have to buy generals for a navy and air role, but Yamamoto performs worse than a specialized navy general such as Nimitz and his air performance is on par with Arnold and Dowding which are cheaper than him by a long shot.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 10, 2019 22:32:29 GMT
But unfortunately, Yamamoto's hybrid capabilities aren’t really enough to justify his price. I rate him 4.5/5 If you buy him, you won’t have to buy generals for a navy and air role, but Yamamoto performs worse than a specialized navy general such as Nimitz and his air performance is on par with Arnold and Dowding which are cheaper than him by a long shot. Same issue as Graziani. Not enough skill slots so you sacrifice quality in both areas to be usable in both. You are better of making him into a pure navy general, so he will end up needing both fleet leader and rumor. On a more positive note, he will be slightly stronger than nimitz (although not by much) on a super artillery during the terrorists era. |
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Post by Gone on Aug 10, 2019 22:46:15 GMT
But unfortunately, Yamamoto's hybrid capabilities aren’t really enough to justify his price. I rate him 4.5/5 If you buy him, you won’t have to buy generals for a navy and air role, but Yamamoto performs worse than a specialized navy general such as Nimitz and his air performance is on par with Arnold and Dowding which are cheaper than him by a long shot. Same issue as Graziani. Not enough skill slots so you sacrifice quality in both areas to be usable in both. You are better of making him into a pure navy general, so he will end up needing both fleet leader and rumor. On a more positive note, he will be slightly stronger than nimitz (although not by much) on a super artillery during the terrorists era. Thing is, I have both Leeb and Konev. |
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