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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 6, 2019 9:08:14 GMT
wwatch out for the nukes, send your healthiest general(i sent guderian on super heavy tank) close to zhukov, away from my artillery generals, so the nue only went on him and i could survive until they nuked me again(this time i got timoshenko's city) and i was left with guderian and konev, and made short work of confused zhukov Yeah it took better tech for me to succeed. For 3 stars I didnt need 10 percent nuclear damage avoidance for tanks though, I felt that it was unnecessary |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 6, 2019 12:33:21 GMT
Yeah it took better tech for me to succeed. For 3 stars I didnt need 10 percent nuclear damage avoidance for tanks though, I felt that it was unnecessary The better hp for tanks definitely helped. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 7, 2019 14:48:51 GMT
yeah just save like 180 hp to eat 1 nuke
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 9, 2019 14:52:26 GMT
Interesting point you have there, stoic . However, usually either 1 of 3 situations occur: (A) You'd have too much HP to activate it (B) Your gen's HP is too low that the risk of death is not worth the dmg. (C) Your gen is unable to use it (confused/dead) I believe that's why others do not rate it as high. Plus, why have ToI, when you have AA? Nonetheless, this ToI IS a tank skill that works, so it boosts Rokossovsky's worth in the end. A. I think, that there is only one way to retain a significant number of HP at the end of any Modern war mission - and it is Blitzkrieg. My Rokossovsky had this skill boosted by a Medal. That means 90% of probability. But it is very probable that other players use boosting medals to strengthen Guderian. Therefore ToI is deffinitely a good option for Rokossovsky. B. I think it is worth it. I saw it very often using Vatutin (Tide of Iron lvl4 - PL lvl5 - AA lvl 5+medal - Plain fighting lvl 5+medal). He was my only general capable to kill a two stacked terrorists' Artillery piece with a single shot or severely damage a terrorists' general even when Vatutin had no more than 50 HP. Besides we can use Rumor before our damaged generals attack, so that they could attack without retaliation. Though my Vatutin was only a Captain, he was able to survive untill the very end. Rokossovsky (who is a M General) has far better chances to survive and make use of ToI therefore... C. Well, it is true that we can do nothing in this case  but then ToI is as useless as any other skill. Deffinitely there are better skills than ToI, but if a general already has it, - it is not that bad either... just to revisit stoic 's point, i feel that the medal swapping strategy (since ur talking abt conquests and campaigns) will help solve the medal boosting issue COMPLETELY. Check this introduction guide out, it has been very useful in letting me build an all rounder tank team to break records more easily and faster. european-war-4.boards.net/thread/10629/medal-efficiency-generals |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on May 1, 2019 13:45:03 GMT
yeah just save like 180 hp to eat 1 nuke Nukes in WC4 are a shadow of their former self in wc3. In world conqueror 3, only a super tank with a general at marshal, or some navy units plus generals with a decent rank could survive it, and even after they are damaged so much to the point where they are pee shooters. Even Rokossovsky, a general who is seemingly built to survive nukes on a super tank, at max hp will struggle after being hit. Now, it takes away like 10 hp |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on May 1, 2019 14:26:23 GMT
yeah just save like 180 hp to eat 1 nuke Nukes in WC4 are a shadow of their former self in wc3. In world conqueror 3, only a super tank with a general at marshal, or some navy units plus generals with a decent rank could survive it, and even after they are damaged so much to the point where they are pee shooters. Even Rokossovsky, a general who is seemingly built to survive nukes on a super tank, at max hp will struggle after being hit. Now, it takes away like 10 hp yes... I find myself relying more on artillery generals than nukes(antimatter or not) to kill enemy terrorist generals in titan tanks. |
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Post by Fedor von Bock on May 4, 2019 18:15:52 GMT
Nukes in WC4 are a shadow of their former self in wc3. In world conqueror 3, only a super tank with a general at marshal, or some navy units plus generals with a decent rank could survive it, and even after they are damaged so much to the point where they are pee shooters. Even Rokossovsky, a general who is seemingly built to survive nukes on a super tank, at max hp will struggle after being hit. Now, it takes away like 10 hp yes... I find myself relying more on artillery generals than nukes(antimatter or not) to kill enemy terrorist generals in titan tanks. I never trusted nukes after the last mission is the Pacific front, I thought 1 nuke is enough to deal with Eisenhower. *Disappointed Bock noise* |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on May 5, 2019 3:44:07 GMT
HAHA true eisenhower needs more than 6 nukes. Good to have you back though, you've been offline for some time
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Post by Gone on Jun 20, 2019 2:14:18 GMT
I’d say Messe is better than him. Although Messe can’t be as near as fast as Rokossovsky and has 1 less Tank star than him, he has 3 useful skills and only costs about 500 medals.
Meanwhile, Rokossovsky's only useful starting skill is Panzer Leader, and he can have two potential useful skills which will make him better than Messe, at the cost of about 3000 medals. TBH even Rommel with full price is only 300 medals more expensive and has better skills than Rokossovsky. Pathetic.
Upgrade Messe's Rumor and Armored Assault, promote him a little and he will be a very strong supporting tank general. Will end up being more useful than Konstantin here.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 20, 2019 14:46:13 GMT
I’d say Messe is better than him. Although Messe can’t be as near as fast as Rokossovsky and has 1 less Tank star than him, he has 3 useful skills and only costs about 500 medals. Meanwhile, Rokossovsky's only useful starting skill is Panzer Leader, and he can have two potential useful skills which will make him better than Messe, at the cost of about 3000 medals. TBH even Rommel with full price is only 300 medals more expensive and has better skills than Rokossovsky. Pathetic. Upgrade Messe's Rumor and Armored Assault, promote him a little and he will be a very strong supporting tank general. Will end up being more useful than Konstantin here. well if you compare german panzer generals to Roko that's slightly unfair Roko is in his tier better than messe. I have mentioned how Tide of Iron and Shelter are very valuable skills in 1980 in the Messe thread. Sure, messe is solid, but he cannot be compared to roko who is by far a better general. Roko can have rumor too with armored assault. |
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Post by Gone on Jun 20, 2019 21:39:38 GMT
I thought that Tide of Iron was bad. Well, it is good, but worse than Rumor, which is why Guderian can be better than Manstein.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 21, 2019 10:46:30 GMT
I thought that Tide of Iron was bad. Well, it is good, but worse than Rumor, which is why Guderian can be better than Manstein. precisely so which makes guderian the undebatable best tank gen |
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Post by Gone on Jun 21, 2019 12:07:55 GMT
Yep. But Guderian and Manstein working together wreck anyone.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 21, 2019 12:34:25 GMT
Yep. But Guderian and Manstein working together wreck anyone. anyone working with guderian or manstein performs well  |
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Post by Gone on Jun 21, 2019 22:47:53 GMT
Overall, Rokossovsky is just like Yamamoto: Has great potential but requires a lot of medals to achieve it.
Unfortunately, that means a “Not worth it” in my book since I already have Manstein who is arguably better than him.
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but then ToI is as useless as any other skill.
