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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 28, 2020 15:09:48 GMT
Oh. Ur making Yamamoto the economy guy. That's sounds like an interesting idea. But I think I going to do that to Dowding instead cuz he has economic expert.. Well, I'll choose him because Dowding only have one empty slot (so rumor can't be applied), and Yamamoto's navy + explosive seem nice too. In real life Yamamoto is an industrial guy, he learned about the management of naval industry. It can be seen on him in scenarios where he has industrial expert. The reason why Dowding is a popular choice is because economy gens aren't supposed to be in the frontline. Once you lose your economy gen, it defeats the purpose of even having one in the first place. That is why, economy gens should always remain static in a city, preferably one that offers the most resources per turn. Hence, rumor is not mandatory, and should not be the criteria for choosing the more expensive Yamamoto (who is near Guderian's price, one of the most expensive) over the efficient Dowding. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jun 28, 2020 15:29:11 GMT
Well, I'll choose him because Dowding only have one empty slot (so rumor can't be applied), and Yamamoto's navy + explosive seem nice too. In real life Yamamoto is an industrial guy, he learned about the management of naval industry. It can be seen on him in scenarios where he has industrial expert. The reason why Dowding is a popular choice is because economy gens aren't supposed to be in the frontline. Once you lose your economy gen, it defeats the purpose of even having one in the first place. That is why, economy gens should always remain static in a city, preferably one that offers the most resources per turn. Hence, rumor is not mandatory, and should not be the criteria for choosing the more expensive Yamamoto (who is near Guderian's price, one of the most expensive) over the efficient Dowding. Quite reasonable, but I want generals that can do as many things as possible. Rumors can help him defend a city from enemy paratroopers and some small amount of enemy. Sometimes static air force guys need to move from town to town as well, but not so much. And having some artillery support in the beginning of a conquest or an explosive cruiser is also nice. Besides Dowding loses in all aspects against Yamamoto, and there are only 12 seats in the HQ, so gotta make sure I have all the OP generals. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 28, 2020 23:38:58 GMT
The reason why Dowding is a popular choice is because economy gens aren't supposed to be in the frontline. Once you lose your economy gen, it defeats the purpose of even having one in the first place. That is why, economy gens should always remain static in a city, preferably one that offers the most resources per turn. Hence, rumor is not mandatory, and should not be the criteria for choosing the more expensive Yamamoto (who is near Guderian's price, one of the most expensive) over the efficient Dowding. Quite reasonable, but I want generals that can do as many things as possible. Rumors can help him defend a city from enemy paratroopers and some small amount of enemy. Sometimes static air force guys need to move from town to town as well, but not so much. And having some artillery support in the beginning of a conquest or an explosive cruiser is also nice. Besides Dowding loses in all aspects against Yamamoto, and there are only 12 seats in the HQ, so gotta make sure I have all the OP generals. Dowding loses against Yamamoto? Well I firmly disagree, where the most obvious difference would be the price. Why pay so much for an econ gen who can only end up having 2 economy skills (if you dont add rumor), which is the same as what dowding can have? If you want to add rumor, then you can only have economic expert on Yamamoto, which is a waste for an econ gen. Then again, if you want tech or industrial expert too then your argument for rumor is basically nullified since yamamoto can only have 2 extra skills. In terms of skills, Dowding is analogous to Yamamoto, and their air damage output is basically the same. Huge difference is the ridiculous price for Yamamoto, who shouldnt even be considered as a 3rd navy gen. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 28, 2020 23:44:47 GMT
If you invest in Dowding then his movement is the same as yamamoto (which should not matter since they are static econ gens). Sure, at best Yamamoto without rumor is basically dowding without carpet bombing. But taking into consideration how these are necessarily econ gens, they cannot be viable and omnipresent air gens unlike Arnold who follows your main gens around. Thus, its neither offensive output nor rumor that matters most for an econ gen. Its his affordability and econ skills that matters most.
I would replace Dowding with Yamamoto, and you can get the latter too. However, cost-wise that is really problematic which is why Dowding is both a more popular choice, and he trumps over Yamamoto in this aspect.
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jun 29, 2020 3:55:14 GMT
If you invest in Dowding then his movement is the same as yamamoto (which should not matter since they are static econ gens). Sure, at best Yamamoto without rumor is basically dowding without carpet bombing. But taking into consideration how these are necessarily econ gens, they cannot be viable and omnipresent air gens unlike Arnold who follows your main gens around. Thus, its neither offensive output nor rumor that matters most for an econ gen. Its his affordability and econ skills that matters most. I would replace Dowding with Yamamoto, and you can get the latter too. However, cost-wise that is really problematic which is why Dowding is both a more popular choice, and he trumps over Yamamoto in this aspect. Okay, I admit the naval capability isn't that important. But the carpet bombing matters a lot. Carpet bombing has the same price as rumor or machinist, and there's certainly a reason why. Because it buffs missiles and nuclear damage too (inside a unit in a city). So if I bought Dowding, I couldn't be so free to move Arnold from town to town because I need the carpet bombing. Rumor is still vital for a static gen, because in the beginning of a conquest you need to inject rumors to the enemy spams along with other ground generals. If you only want a cheap economic gen why not Tito? In the end you can get unlimited medals through invasions, but you can't get extra general slots, so that's why I only buy the finest of the finest gens and making each of them unique in role as to adapt to many different circumstances. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 29, 2020 7:20:45 GMT
If you invest in Dowding then his movement is the same as yamamoto (which should not matter since they are static econ gens). Sure, at best Yamamoto without rumor is basically dowding without carpet bombing. But taking into consideration how these are necessarily econ gens, they cannot be viable and omnipresent air gens unlike Arnold who follows your main gens around. Thus, its neither offensive output nor rumor that matters most for an econ gen. Its his affordability and econ skills that matters most. I would replace Dowding with Yamamoto, and you can get the latter too. However, cost-wise that is really problematic which is why Dowding is both a more popular choice, and he trumps over Yamamoto in this aspect. Okay, I admit the naval capability isn't that important. But the carpet bombing matters a lot. Carpet bombing has the same price as rumor or machinist, and there's certainly a reason why. Because it buffs missiles and nuclear damage too (inside a unit in a city). So if I bought Dowding, I couldn't be so free to move Arnold from town to town because I need the carpet bombing. Rumor is still vital for a static gen, because in the beginning of a conquest you need to inject rumors to the enemy spams along with other ground generals. If you only want a cheap economic gen why not Tito? In the end you can get unlimited medals through invasions, but you can't get extra general slots, so that's why I only buy the finest of the finest gens and making each of them unique in role as to adapt to many different circumstances. I dont see why I would risk both my capital and my econ gen to a spam. I'd rather wait until the coast is clear and after I spawn my other gens before he goes on. Realistically, if you are using econ gens optimally they will see very little conflict. You can only have econ on Tito, who does not have enough health to even do anything if your city gets attacked by the enemy airforce. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 29, 2020 14:40:45 GMT
If you invest in Dowding then his movement is the same as yamamoto (which should not matter since they are static econ gens). Sure, at best Yamamoto without rumor is basically dowding without carpet bombing. But taking into consideration how these are necessarily econ gens, they cannot be viable and omnipresent air gens unlike Arnold who follows your main gens around. Thus, its neither offensive output nor rumor that matters most for an econ gen. Its his affordability and econ skills that matters most. I would replace Dowding with Yamamoto, and you can get the latter too. However, cost-wise that is really problematic which is why Dowding is both a more popular choice, and he trumps over Yamamoto in this aspect. Lol. I think I'm going to get Yamamoto AND Dowding. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 29, 2020 23:44:22 GMT
If you invest in Dowding then his movement is the same as yamamoto (which should not matter since they are static econ gens). Sure, at best Yamamoto without rumor is basically dowding without carpet bombing. But taking into consideration how these are necessarily econ gens, they cannot be viable and omnipresent air gens unlike Arnold who follows your main gens around. Thus, its neither offensive output nor rumor that matters most for an econ gen. Its his affordability and econ skills that matters most. I would replace Dowding with Yamamoto, and you can get the latter too. However, cost-wise that is really problematic which is why Dowding is both a more popular choice, and he trumps over Yamamoto in this aspect. Lol. I think I'm going to get Yamamoto AND Dowding. Prioritise Dowding first. After your entire roster is secured, you should have 1 or 2 slots left to get Yamamoto. Just try to prioritise general skill upgrades first; seriously I cannot think of all the fanciful ways to maintain that buying Yamamoto over Dowding as an econ gen has any real practical difference, so using Dowding will not make you lose out at all. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 30, 2020 0:10:48 GMT
Lol. I think I'm going to get Yamamoto AND Dowding. Prioritise Dowding first. After your entire roster is secured, you should have 1 or 2 slots left to get Yamamoto. Just try to prioritise general skill upgrades first; seriously I cannot think of all the fanciful ways to maintain that buying Yamamoto over Dowding as an econ gen has any real practical difference, so using Dowding will not make you lose out at all. Ye I know. I'm going to get Yama as my last gen after I get an inf gen and Dowding. I thinking of making Yama an air navy hybrid. Then my team will be: Leeb, Guderian, Nimitz, Konev, Rommel, Rokossovsky, Arnold, Donitz, Graziani, Mannerheim, Dowding, and Yamamoto. Instead of Yamamoto, I might get Patton but I'm not sure. |
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Post by mrmansterin on Jun 30, 2020 0:14:20 GMT
Prioritise Dowding first. After your entire roster is secured, you should have 1 or 2 slots left to get Yamamoto. Just try to prioritise general skill upgrades first; seriously I cannot think of all the fanciful ways to maintain that buying Yamamoto over Dowding as an econ gen has any real practical difference, so using Dowding will not make you lose out at all. Ye I know. I'm going to get Yama as my last gen after I get an inf gen and Dowding. I thinking of making Yama an air navy hybrid. Then my team will be: Leeb, Guderian, Nimitz, Konev, Rommel, Rokossovsky, Arnold, Donitz, Graziani, Mannerheim, Dowding, and Yamamoto. Instead of Yamamoto, I might get Patton but I'm not sure. Why Patton? I thought he was in the DO-NOT-BUY-OR-ELSE-YOU'LL-BE-SORRY-IT list. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 30, 2020 0:17:46 GMT
Ye I know. I'm going to get Yama as my last gen after I get an inf gen and Dowding. I thinking of making Yama an air navy hybrid. Then my team will be: Leeb, Guderian, Nimitz, Konev, Rommel, Rokossovsky, Arnold, Donitz, Graziani, Mannerheim, Dowding, and Yamamoto. Instead of Yamamoto, I might get Patton but I'm not sure. Why Patton? I thought he was in the DO-NOT-BUY-OR-ELSE-YOU'LL-BE-SORRY-IT list. Idk. There's no one else good to buy anyways. Maybe Monty or Vatutin. |
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Post by mrmansterin on Jun 30, 2020 0:23:19 GMT
Idk. There's no one else good to buy anyways. Maybe Monty or Vatutin. Mmmm I would buy Vatutin. BTW, can I see your general's skills and your tech tree? |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 30, 2020 0:36:36 GMT
Idk. There's no one else good to buy anyways. Maybe Monty or Vatutin. Mmmm I would buy Vatutin. BTW, can I see your general's skills and your tech tree? Ya boi's too lazy. So I'll just say it. I have maxed tech tree except strongholds and air defense. I have maxed Guderian and Konev (except raider) I have well upgraded Donitz, Nimitz, and Rommel (well as in skills at level 3 or 4) I have poorly upgraded Leeb (it's similar to urs in page 3), Arnold, and Rokossovsky. I recently bought Graziani so he's not upgraded at all. |
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Post by mrmansterin on Jun 30, 2020 0:58:36 GMT
Ya boi's too lazy. So I'll just say it. I have maxed tech tree except strongholds and air defense. I have maxed Guderian and Konev (except raider) I have well upgraded Donitz, Nimitz, and Rommel (well as in skills at level 3 or 4) I have poorly upgraded Leeb (it's similar to urs in page 3), Arnold, and Rokossovsky. I recently bought Graziani so he's not upgraded at all. WOOOO! Good generals. And this is the wrong discussion. My generals and tech level is on WTO final. This is Mountbatten discussion.  . BTW, congrats on becoming a marshall while I'm still stuck at Captain. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 30, 2020 1:00:59 GMT
Ya boi's too lazy. So I'll just say it. I have maxed tech tree except strongholds and air defense. I have maxed Guderian and Konev (except raider) I have well upgraded Donitz, Nimitz, and Rommel (well as in skills at level 3 or 4) I have poorly upgraded Leeb (it's similar to urs in page 3), Arnold, and Rokossovsky. I recently bought Graziani so he's not upgraded at all. WOOOO! Good generals. And this is the wrong discussion. My generals and tech level is on WTO final. This is Mountbatten discussion. . BTW, congrats on becoming a marshall while I'm still stuck at Captain. Thanks! And oops. |
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. BTW, congrats on becoming a marshall while I'm still stuck at Captain. 
