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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Nov 21, 2018 20:22:07 GMT
Not saying that he is crap, however, he is much better than I expected. Might actually spend some more generals on him! Two navy skills are needed for a naval general: fleet leader and rumor. Kuznetsov has both. In addition, he has good stars, 4 stars in navy and air, and a couple stars to movement. His main strength is that he starts out at level 3 fleet leader and has rumor as one of his three skills. When placed on a double stacked cruiser or a sub, Kuznetsov can last for a very long time while having a devastating affect on the battlefield. He has a very good price of 1200 medals, which is the best deal you get with the exception of Nimitz. If you upgrade him, get his rumor up to lvl 3 and he should hold up even in end game |
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Post by proxydragoon on Nov 22, 2018 17:17:59 GMT
Ah right thanks, i got scared there because i somehow got 6 notifications from this discussion and i was scared everything was going down xDDD
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Post by proxydragoon on Nov 25, 2018 20:36:51 GMT
Will be honest tho, fighting against him in the 1950s are so frickin annoying because he has so much health. That's why I'm gearing towards the increased sub damage against carriers and cruisers.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Nov 26, 2018 19:25:17 GMT
Will be honest tho, fighting against him in the 1950s are so frickin annoying because he has so much health. That's why I'm gearing towards the increased sub damage against carriers and cruisers. Now imagine the enemy having to fight a Kuznetsov with lvl 5 rumor. He has a very good skill set. There are two comparable navy generals to him in the silver tier, Nagumo and Mountbatten. Mountbatten has an extra navy star on Kuznetsov and can heal, but he loses his air ability and is a bit more expensive than him. Imo, he is not worth it even though it is definitely awesome to see Mountbatten being good in an Easytech game. Ship depot is barely noticeable. As for Nagumo, he too would cost around 700-800 more medals tgan Kuznetsov. It is true that Nagumo has 2 navy stars on Kuznetsov, which both would cost more than that 800 medal difference, the power would come from the skills. If the two fought, my money would be on Kuznetsov cuz sailor + rumor would do more than overcome the advantage nagumo has on him. As for the tier 3 generals, Donitz costs more than 2x that of Kuznetsov’s price and Yamamoto almost 3. Yamamoto would have at best a skill set of explosives, rumor, and fleet leader, whereas donitz could have the same skills except with ship depot and wolfpack as well (actually, not that big of a difference between the two). This means that at their best, they will only have a one skill advantage to kuznetsov, even though arguably donitz could get some extra hp from ship depot and yamamoto is much better on a carrier). Explosives is a rather good skill on navy, but it isn’t that good to justify buying them. Now nimitz is a much better general than Kuznetsov however, ace forces will lead to amazing survivability, his camoflauge skill will save a bit of hp here and there, and finally he can have both explosives and rumor (making him really good on artillery as well). He will also have more health and better stars than Kuznetsov. But kuznetsov will hold his own even to him in a 1 v 1 fight due to his highly specialized skills. Nimitz would win but he would lose 2/3rds of his health (the level 3 ace forces would do the most to ensure Nimitz’s survivabilty). So in a nutshell, the only better deal than Kuznetsov for navy is Nimitz, who offers many more features for 600 more medals. The rest don’t even consider. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Nov 28, 2018 12:29:21 GMT
Will be honest tho, fighting against him in the 1950s are so frickin annoying because he has so much health. That's why I'm gearing towards the increased sub damage against carriers and cruisers. Now imagine the enemy having to fight a Kuznetsov with lvl 5 rumor. He has a very good skill set. There are two comparable navy generals to him in the silver tier, Nagumo and Mountbatten. Mountbatten has an extra navy star on Kuznetsov and can heal, but he loses his air ability and is a bit more expensive than him. Imo, he is not worth it even though it is definitely awesome to see Mountbatten being good in an Easytech game. Ship depot is barely noticeable. As for Nagumo, he too would cost around 700-800 more medals tgan Kuznetsov. It is true that Nagumo has 2 navy stars on Kuznetsov, which both would cost more than that 800 medal difference, the power would come from the skills. If the two fought, my money would be on Kuznetsov cuz sailor + rumor would do more than overcome the advantage nagumo has on him. As for the tier 3 generals, Donitz costs more than 2x that of Kuznetsov’s price and Yamamoto almost 3. Yamamoto would have at best a skill set of explosives, rumor, and fleet leader, whereas donitz could have the same skills except with ship depot and wolfpack as well (actually, not that big of a difference between the two). This means that at their best, they will only have a one skill advantage to kuznetsov, even though arguably donitz could get some extra hp from ship depot and yamamoto is much better on a carrier). Explosives is a rather good skill on navy, but it isn’t that good to justify buying them. Now nimitz is a much better general than Kuznetsov however, ace forces will lead to amazing survivability, his camoflauge skill will save a bit of hp here and there, and finally he can have both explosives and rumor (making him really good on artillery as well). He will also have more health and better stars than Kuznetsov. But kuznetsov will hold his own even to him in a 1 v 1 fight due to his highly specialized skills. Nimitz would win but he would lose 2/3rds of his health (the level 3 ace forces would do the most to ensure Nimitz’s survivabilty). So in a nutshell, the only better deal than Kuznetsov for navy is Nimitz, who offers many more features for 600 more medals. The rest don’t even consider. hehe provided you can fully unlock the 40% |
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Post by Gone on Jan 2, 2019 1:24:51 GMT
I guess the “Dream Team For Starters” is Messe, Leeb and Kunetzsov. Best starting tank general, 2nd best non-IAP artillery general (Behind Konev) and an amazing navy general with a price of just 1200 medals.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jan 2, 2019 2:08:00 GMT
I guess the “Dream Team For Starters” is Messe, Leeb and Kunetzsov. Best starting tank general, 2nd best non-IAP artillery general (Behind Konev) and an amazing navy general with a price of just 1200 medals. You don't need navy at the start, but if the Navy Daily Battles are getting to you, he's a cheap and effective option. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 2, 2019 4:05:49 GMT
Not saying that he is crap, however, he is much better than I expected. Might actually spend some more generals on him! Two navy skills are needed for a naval general: fleet leader and rumor. Kuznetsov has both. In addition, he has good stars, 4 stars in navy and air, and a couple stars to movement. His main strength is that he starts out at level 3 fleet leader and has rumor as one of his three skills. When placed on a double stacked cruiser or a sub, Kuznetsov can last for a very long time while having a devastating affect on the battlefield. He has a very good price of 1200 medals, which is the best deal you get with the exception of Nimitz. You are so freaking right! Even Mountbatten in Axis 4 who is basically an one-hit killer could not kill Kuznetsov! |
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Post by unnamed356 on Jan 2, 2019 4:53:18 GMT
I guess the “Dream Team For Starters” is Messe, Leeb and Kunetzsov. Best starting tank general, 2nd best non-IAP artillery general (Behind Konev) and an amazing navy general with a price of just 1200 medals. But make sure you are still able to grind for Guderian, many people grind for Guderian after Messe + Leeb or just Messe. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 2, 2019 15:08:31 GMT
I guess the “Dream Team For Starters” is Messe, Leeb and Kunetzsov. Best starting tank general, 2nd best non-IAP artillery general (Behind Konev) and an amazing navy general with a price of just 1200 medals. But make sure you are still able to grind for Guderian, many people grind for Guderian after Messe + Leeb or just Messe. Sure, sure. It's going to be even easier than before with those generals. |
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Post by Dorado St. Sebastian on Feb 22, 2019 4:25:09 GMT
I hired kutznetsov yesterday. Missing out on the daily missions,etc without a Navy commander wasn't fun. Will work towards Nimitz most likely but since I got him I've been able to clear more challenges and invasions. Have four now and can't wait to fill my roster.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 23, 2019 5:54:47 GMT
im thinking of selling kuznetsov and buying donitz by adding explosives and rumour on him, cant wait to see the colossal improvement,\
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Feb 23, 2019 13:07:55 GMT
im thinking of selling kuznetsov and buying donitz by adding explosives and rumour on him, cant wait to see the colossal improvement,\ Well explosives well 5 will make a huge difference. But otherwise, donitz and kuznetsov are pretty much equals |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 23, 2019 13:15:18 GMT
im thinking of selling kuznetsov and buying donitz by adding explosives and rumour on him, cant wait to see the colossal improvement,\ Well explosives well 5 will make a huge difference. But otherwise, donitz and kuznetsov are pretty much equals Im interested in the prospect of having wolfpack, I was thoroughly impressed by his performance with other submarines in germany 1939  |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Feb 23, 2019 13:25:57 GMT
Well explosives well 5 will make a huge difference. But otherwise, donitz and kuznetsov are pretty much equals Im interested in the prospect of having wolfpack, I was thoroughly impressed by his performance with other submarines in germany 1939 Ah nice. A pretty good skill as well. Rip Kuznetsov |
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