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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 13:08:37 GMT
ah yes and everyone hated De Gaulle lol. Malaysia? Really a sweet victory for the Japanese? Seemed like somewhere the Italian army could manage at as the British didnt really place that much priority on the defense of Malaya, and Yamashita saw through this well Was actually about to guess Philippines, but it wasn't a british colony. I dunno why people hate De Gaulle, he seems to be a cool dude. Also, it would be interesting to know what would have happened if Japan succeeded in invading Australia. They just miscalculated when they bombed Pearl Harbor: they underestimated the American's willingness to go to war.
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Post by Clausewitz on Mar 25, 2019 14:48:45 GMT
brings into much consideration what things would have changed if Poland and the Soviet Union joined the Axis powers in ww2, poland due to submission to power and the USSR due to desire for domination and expansion of their power. But ultimately the germans would eventually stab russia in the back, but at least the latter will have its red army focused on invading the middle east and china against the ROC and the British, and the Germans would have a faster time reaching Moscow. That isnt too ideal either, as a overwhelmingly strong southern push could occur, and imo if this rly happens its up to germany to take moscow asap so that they can stand a chance. This is all alternate history ideas which im interested in, so no offence to any country but i feel its very interesting to consider the many things that might have changed Hitler was destined to lose. Pretty much the whole world was against him, and his ideals of lebensraum and the like made it impossible for any diplomatic exchange. If he was a realist and more of a rational, i can see Germany winning. But based on his psychology, it was only a matter of time for Germany to lose. Also, i'd say the leaders are more important, since tbh, the masses can be considered as one single consciousness, and group consciousness is easily swayed by a strong figure. WW2 was for the most part a war of ideologys Communism, Capitalism and Facism. Germany lost because Facism was by far the most extreme of the Three ideologys. The cold war was just the continuing of that war of ideologys.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Mar 25, 2019 14:58:21 GMT
brings into much consideration what things would have changed if Poland and the Soviet Union joined the Axis powers in ww2, poland due to submission to power and the USSR due to desire for domination and expansion of their power. But ultimately the germans would eventually stab russia in the back, but at least the latter will have its red army focused on invading the middle east and china against the ROC and the British, and the Germans would have a faster time reaching Moscow. That isnt too ideal either, as a overwhelmingly strong southern push could occur, and imo if this rly happens its up to germany to take moscow asap so that they can stand a chance. This is all alternate history ideas which im interested in, so no offence to any country but i feel its very interesting to consider the many things that might have changed Hitler was destined to lose. Pretty much the whole world was against him, and his ideals of lebensraum and the like made it impossible for any diplomatic exchange. If he was a realist and more of a rational, i can see Germany winning. But based on his psychology, it was only a matter of time for Germany to lose. Also, i'd say the leaders are more important, since tbh, the masses can be considered as one single consciousness, and group consciousness is easily swayed by a strong figure. true, for the sake of technicality Hitler relied on rhetoric and Pathos in order to better influence the masses no matter the existing odds. True, as he literally had to hard carry Italy, even the balkan states were arguably slightly better allies than the italians( with the exception of Bulgaria). Hitler really shot himself in the foot so many times, as one who opposes UK will eventually trigger the US to intervene(and they were already on high alert with the last Mexican incident where the US joined the war in ww1 due to an intercepted message to Mexico from Germany to attack the US in order to distract a potential enemy). However the same cannot be said for Russia, and it was rather ambitious trying to get more living space and world domination, advocate racial superiority at the expense of others, and challenge a political system embraced by two existing super powers(PRC then, albeit being forced to halt to resist Japan, was still a force to be reckoned with in the ww2 world stages). It was just too much for him to chew, and going against so many countries with so weak allies(Japan wasnt, however they failed to realize the need for carriers in winning in naval warfare as Yamamoto vainly advocated for, in the end Japan could only be useful as a diversion where the UK and the US had to spend resources to the Pacific theatre as well, and Japan failed at their russian campaigns), Germany was indeed bound to lose as their losing factors were not decided by luck and pure operational slips, but due to blinded orders and too many distractions they were simply doomed.
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Post by Clausewitz on Mar 25, 2019 15:34:34 GMT
Hitler was destined to lose. Pretty much the whole world was against him, and his ideals of lebensraum and the like made it impossible for any diplomatic exchange. If he was a realist and more of a rational, i can see Germany winning. But based on his psychology, it was only a matter of time for Germany to lose. Also, i'd say the leaders are more important, since tbh, the masses can be considered as one single consciousness, and group consciousness is easily swayed by a strong figure. true, for the sake of technicality Hitler relied on rhetoric and Pathos in order to better influence the masses no matter the existing odds. True, as he literally had to hard carry Italy, even the balkan states were arguably slightly better allies than the italians( with the exception of Bulgaria). Hitler really shot himself in the foot so many times, as one who opposes UK will eventually trigger the US to intervene(and they were already on high alert with the last Mexican incident where the US joined the war in ww1 due to an intercepted message to Mexico from Germany to attack the US in order to distract a potential enemy). However the same cannot be said for Russia, and it was rather ambitious trying to get more living space and world domination, advocate racial superiority at the expense of others, and challenge a political system embraced by two existing super powers(PRC then, albeit being forced to halt to resist Japan, was still a force to be reckoned with in the ww2 world stages). It was just too much for him to chew, and going against so many countries with so weak allies(Japan wasnt, however they failed to realize the need for carriers in winning in naval warfare as Yamamoto vainly advocated for, in the end Japan could only be useful as a diversion where the UK and the US had to spend resources to the Pacific theatre as well, and Japan failed at their russian campaigns), Germany was indeed bound to lose as their losing factors were not decided by luck and pure operational slips, but due to blinded orders and too many distractions they were simply doomed. I would guess you came from Malaya? Germany could only have won the War with a rational thinking Leadership. Give the military a destination and parameters, correct the Generals if necessary but otherwise let them free hands to decide what to do and how to achieve that goal in your favour. Hitler lost focus and was total addicted to beat Russia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:55:45 GMT
Hitler was destined to lose. Pretty much the whole world was against him, and his ideals of lebensraum and the like made it impossible for any diplomatic exchange. If he was a realist and more of a rational, i can see Germany winning. But based on his psychology, it was only a matter of time for Germany to lose. Also, i'd say the leaders are more important, since tbh, the masses can be considered as one single consciousness, and group consciousness is easily swayed by a strong figure. WW2 was for the most part a war of ideologys Communism, Capitalism and Facism. Germany lost because Facism was by far the most extreme of the Three ideologys. The cold war was just the continuing of that war of ideologys. Agreed. Also,I dunno, can't people just use their brain that had evolved over billions of years to conclude that maybe instead of arguing which ideology was better, we actually take the best out of those idealogies and make a new better one, and keep improving the new ideology until it becomes flawless. But yeah, Capitalism won because no sane billionaire would want to live in a communist country, for who would want to give up the majority of his wealth. Also, maybe we should move our conversation to the Officers lounge lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:57:17 GMT
Yup. Also, his idea of screwing over banks didn't really go well with the Americans.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Mar 26, 2019 11:06:00 GMT
true, for the sake of technicality Hitler relied on rhetoric and Pathos in order to better influence the masses no matter the existing odds. True, as he literally had to hard carry Italy, even the balkan states were arguably slightly better allies than the italians( with the exception of Bulgaria). Hitler really shot himself in the foot so many times, as one who opposes UK will eventually trigger the US to intervene(and they were already on high alert with the last Mexican incident where the US joined the war in ww1 due to an intercepted message to Mexico from Germany to attack the US in order to distract a potential enemy). However the same cannot be said for Russia, and it was rather ambitious trying to get more living space and world domination, advocate racial superiority at the expense of others, and challenge a political system embraced by two existing super powers(PRC then, albeit being forced to halt to resist Japan, was still a force to be reckoned with in the ww2 world stages). It was just too much for him to chew, and going against so many countries with so weak allies(Japan wasnt, however they failed to realize the need for carriers in winning in naval warfare as Yamamoto vainly advocated for, in the end Japan could only be useful as a diversion where the UK and the US had to spend resources to the Pacific theatre as well, and Japan failed at their russian campaigns), Germany was indeed bound to lose as their losing factors were not decided by luck and pure operational slips, but due to blinded orders and too many distractions they were simply doomed. I would guess you came from Malaya? Germany could only have won the War with a rational thinking Leadership. Give the military a destination and parameters, correct the Generals if necessary but otherwise let them free hands to decide what to do and how to achieve that goal in your favour. Hitler lost focus and was total addicted to beat Russia. i agree with your point. You guessed incorrectly lol, the conquest of Malaya wasnt a huge victory for the Japanese, yet it was the invasion of the latter guess that was very significant in dealing a blow to the British, and also to add on to the list of Yamashita's achievements in his war career
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Apr 4, 2019 10:21:34 GMT
Deleted , thanks, the weakest link are those who havent had their names up on the threads of fame like me ahahaha, yep im currently tryharding to beat his record even without upgrades. Do you only play ew6 or do u play others too just that u only attempt for records in ew6? I played only EW4 and EW6. While playing EW6, i just noticed how cool the title of World fastest conqueror is, and so i went for the titles. Although i hold the most records in EW6 currently, it's not as impressive as the others who hold other records in the other games. I'm slightly interested in WC3 and WC4, but i'm just playing the mods for fun, along with mods of EW4. Also, i think you can actually get the title if you can beat one of Ottos records, since his records are actually impressive. Just have the screenshots and that's it, and i'll personally nominate you. Stierlitz will probably have the biggest sway if you are accepted or not tho, since he's the best conqueror in both WC3 and WC4(correct me if i'm wrong). Also, i think you can do it without max upgrades, since i was able to get most records without maxing some of my generals. Although i'm not sure how big the impact of tech and general upgrades is in WC4 compared to EW6. beat von stierlitz's usa 1950 record, fastest record by me in 21 turns as opposed to his 24. Waiting for authorization but im worried i might be denied the title haha, will tell u why when the results are out
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Post by Gone on Aug 11, 2019 20:38:29 GMT
Is the 1950 Conquest like the Great Patriotic War and Modern Day Mods where everyone has insane HP and ATT?
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 12, 2019 2:58:42 GMT
Is the 1950 Conquest like the Great Patriotic War and Modern Day Mods where everyone has insane HP and ATT? Not really. Once the gens die off, what's left are the normal troops.
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Post by Gone on Dec 3, 2019 19:55:30 GMT
So I've heard that North Korea was a great choice for a 1-star in 1950. But I’ve also heard that China and USSR are unreliable, and that NATO spams tanks, not to mention the American and Australian naval spam. Is NK actually a great choice?
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 4, 2019 3:15:04 GMT
So I've heard that North Korea was a great choice for a 1-star in 1950. But I’ve also heard that China and USSR are unreliable, and that NATO spams tanks, not to mention the American and Australian naval spam. Is NK actually a great choice? if you wipe out south korea and japan fast, then yes. You get to easily secure navy and wipe out south east asia and australia. I would also recommend sweden / portugal. With the generals you have, I think sweden is possible, just block off the soviets and destroy their generals in the water. For portugal, send all troops to africa, and once you have established a foothold send them off with your best generals to conquer the balkans and start attacking the middle east, poland and the ussr.
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Post by Gone on Dec 4, 2019 17:25:30 GMT
So I've heard that North Korea was a great choice for a 1-star in 1950. But I’ve also heard that China and USSR are unreliable, and that NATO spams tanks, not to mention the American and Australian naval spam. Is NK actually a great choice? if you wipe out south korea and japan fast, then yes. You get to easily secure navy and wipe out south east asia and australia. I would also recommend sweden / portugal. With the generals you have, I think sweden is possible, just block off the soviets and destroy their generals in the water. For portugal, send all troops to africa, and once you have established a foothold send them off with your best generals to conquer the balkans and start attacking the middle east, poland and the ussr. I discovered something interesting. If you attack South Korea, China will send their generals towards southern Japan instead. This is because the Chinese AI understands that you aren’t in trouble and thus can handle South Korea by yourself. However, if you don’t do anything at all, Peng D.H. and Zhu D. come to help you. Isn't a game-changer though. Just makes defeating South Korea, which is already easy, a bit easier.
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Post by wilhelmvonleeb on Dec 8, 2019 8:52:38 GMT
true, for the sake of technicality Hitler relied on rhetoric and Pathos in order to better influence the masses no matter the existing odds. True, as he literally had to hard carry Italy, even the balkan states were arguably slightly better allies than the italians( with the exception of Bulgaria). Hitler really shot himself in the foot so many times, as one who opposes UK will eventually trigger the US to intervene(and they were already on high alert with the last Mexican incident where the US joined the war in ww1 due to an intercepted message to Mexico from Germany to attack the US in order to distract a potential enemy). However the same cannot be said for Russia, and it was rather ambitious trying to get more living space and world domination, advocate racial superiority at the expense of others, and challenge a political system embraced by two existing super powers(PRC then, albeit being forced to halt to resist Japan, was still a force to be reckoned with in the ww2 world stages). It was just too much for him to chew, and going against so many countries with so weak allies(Japan wasnt, however they failed to realize the need for carriers in winning in naval warfare as Yamamoto vainly advocated for, in the end Japan could only be useful as a diversion where the UK and the US had to spend resources to the Pacific theatre as well, and Japan failed at their russian campaigns), Germany was indeed bound to lose as their losing factors were not decided by luck and pure operational slips, but due to blinded orders and too many distractions they were simply doomed. I would guess you came from Malaya? Germany could only have won the War with a rational thinking Leadership. Give the military a destination and parameters, correct the Generals if necessary but otherwise let them free hands to decide what to do and how to achieve that goal in your favour. Hitler lost focus and was total addicted to beat Russia. That was false tho. Hitler can win WW2 if he wasnt so unlucky. During the second phase of Battle of Moscow, 2 mil germans face off 600k Soviets on a 130km front. They were 120km away from Moscow initially and only 25km away from Moscow in the end. If it was not for the unusual 1 month heavy rain (wierd in winter) and the early winter (15 days) and the coldest winter of the 20th century. Hitler could have won the battle and capture Moscow. Even the Soviets refuse to surrender, it would deal a ton of morale on them. Moscow is strategical also because of the road jucyions and supply lines especially Leningrad. It will fall with no amunition. Then the USSR will collapse. Also in Stallingrad , if the Germans pay attentions on their flanks they would capture succesfully the Caucausus and have the vital Oil. One of the main issuse of Germany is the lack of Oil, limiting much of its offensive capabilities. So Hitler definitely could win WW2 if he wasnt so unlucky. So human partly win with the help of Luck and Mother nature tho. And the main contribution by the USSR
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 8, 2019 15:17:15 GMT
That was false tho. Hitler can win WW2 if he wasnt so unlucky. During the second phase of Battle of Moscow, 2 mil germans face off 600k Soviets on a 130km front. They were 120km away from Moscow initially and only 25km away from Moscow in the end. If it was not for the unusual 1 month heavy rain (wierd in winter) and the early winter (15 days) and the coldest winter of the 20th century. Hitler could have won the battle and capture Moscow. Even the Soviets refuse to surrender, it would deal a ton of morale on them. Moscow is strategical also because of the road jucyions and supply lines especially Leningrad. It will fall with no amunition. Then the USSR will collapse. Also in Stallingrad , if the Germans pay attentions on their flanks they would capture succesfully the Caucausus and have the vital Oil. One of the main issuse of Germany is the lack of Oil, limiting much of its offensive capabilities. So Hitler definitely could win WW2 if he wasnt so unlucky. So human partly win with the help of Luck and Mother nature tho. And the main contribution by the USSR wilhelmvonleeb, check out these informative videos by one of my favorite WW2 researcher channels:
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