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Post by Suvorov on Nov 5, 2015 10:26:45 GMT
More general will come soon. At home I'll put the generals in their colour group. So, every highly recommended general is put in one group, every *Auto Corrected* general is put in one group |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 5, 2015 10:33:15 GMT
Good Analysis, but it's only by an economic point of view: mostly of the choices are seen just for stars, but that could be easily fixed with trainers. What it really makes a good general are his skills and the sinergy between them. So if you have a general with BUgle, Strike, Ballistics and Banner then it's kinda pointless. ex: Sakurako as a infantery general is wasting at least 2 skills (maybe banner too, but we can't assume that until we are pretty sure what benefit brings the flags use (actually may keep relation with years ruled, idk)). Then Napoleon isn't "quite recommended" over Washington (very useful for cities protecctions and main attacking force) or Poniatowski (i just love him, he is good in everything: i used a lvl1 militia with him for econmy boosting during the 31 rounds campaign, and it take 5 rounds to kill full health Drombowski (one turn lost by his defense art)). So here's mine analysis: Napoleon. Recommended (maybe highly recommended but for a certain mission... but frist i need to get him again :c ) Davout. Split skills not recommneded Wellesley = Washington :/ You be the judge (superior movement than other generals) Nelson. weak VERY WEAK, use Kate or Sidney Lannes. even better than Suvurov, but just by Leadership. Quite Recommended Jervis. as a navy general sucks: economic master can't get the economic boost from a port and sailor gets useless. I only have 2 good strategies for him : As a Costal Fort General in France - Holand for take down english landing and a "Sailor General", but just for the English Channel circuit (UK safety invasion, where he could take London for the boost. Besides, not recommended. Kutuzov. Quite versatile general, his fort make it possible the Sardina 98 and Serbia Conquest. Strong for a main infantery force (but siege master, fireproof and defense art make it a solid Cav/Art/Navy general too, may seems that Formation "blew it up"(you maniacs!) but in Lasalle- Murat- Paget - Poniatowski- Radetzki- Drombowski damage it's just affected by 3 skills, just like navy role ). Almost everlasting xd Radetzky = Drombowski. Anyway they are still being cool generals for -again- main force. (We really need to know how Banner works) Moreau, Murat, Lasalle, Suvurov GET THEM GET THEM RIGHT NOW!! but i am not sure about Murat, my 2guns Lasalle makes more damage than my 2guns Murat, and their fort damage are pretty similar too... IDK it's like spy doesn't works, cause i cant see the difference in their damage. PONIATOWSKI . just like my argument with Kutuzov, but here no skill wasting it all ( besides geogrphy in Navy and Forts) .... It's a 4x4 Lannes, ugh i can't describe him... just AWESOME if you get the trainnig and snare drum if you let him alone for the coquering of a huge country  All the rest doesn't matter Any general can be strong when they are max level. You are basing your analysis off of a hacked game. Plus you have upgraded his stars quite a bit of I'm not mistaken. |
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Post by It's me again on Nov 5, 2015 12:27:29 GMT
Good Analysis, but it's only by an economic point of view: mostly of the choices are seen just for stars, but that could be easily fixed with trainers. What it really makes a good general are his skills and the sinergy between them. So if you have a general with BUgle, Strike, Ballistics and Banner then it's kinda pointless. ex: Sakurako as a infantery general is wasting at least 2 skills (maybe banner too, but we can't assume that until we are pretty sure what benefit brings the flags use (actually may keep relation with years ruled, idk)). Then Napoleon isn't "quite recommended" over Washington (very useful for cities protecctions and main attacking force) or Poniatowski (i just love him, he is good in everything: i used a lvl1 militia with him for econmy boosting during the 31 rounds campaign, and it take 5 rounds to kill full health Drombowski (one turn lost by his defense art)). So here's mine analysis: Napoleon. Recommended (maybe highly recommended but for a certain mission... but frist i need to get him again :c ) Davout. Split skills not recommneded Wellesley = Washington :/ You be the judge (superior movement than other generals) Nelson. weak VERY WEAK, use Kate or Sidney Lannes. even better than Suvurov, but just by Leadership. Quite Recommended Jervis. as a navy general sucks: economic master can't get the economic boost from a port and sailor gets useless. I only have 2 good strategies for him : As a Costal Fort General in France - Holand for take down english landing and a "Sailor General", but just for the English Channel circuit (UK safety invasion, where he could take London for the boost. Besides, not recommended. Kutuzov. Quite versatile general, his fort make it possible the Sardina 98 and Serbia Conquest. Strong for a main infantery force (but siege master, fireproof and defense art make it a solid Cav/Art/Navy general too, may seems that Formation "blew it up"(you maniacs!) but in Lasalle- Murat- Paget - Poniatowski- Radetzki- Drombowski damage it's just affected by 3 skills, just like navy role ). Almost everlasting xd Radetzky = Drombowski. Anyway they are still being cool generals for -again- main force. (We really need to know how Banner works) Moreau, Murat, Lasalle, Suvurov GET THEM GET THEM RIGHT NOW!! but i am not sure about Murat, my 2guns Lasalle makes more damage than my 2guns Murat, and their fort damage are pretty similar too... IDK it's like spy doesn't works, cause i cant see the difference in their damage. PONIATOWSKI . just like my argument with Kutuzov, but here no skill wasting it all ( besides geogrphy in Navy and Forts) .... It's a 4x4 Lannes, ugh i can't describe him... just AWESOME if you get the trainnig and snare drum if you let him alone for the coquering of a huge country All the rest doesn't matter In contrast to you, I don't have a hack versions. Then a generals with good skills and bad stars isn't recommended. What this is, is an analysis when you buy generals not when you have bought the general and have so much medals that you can upgrade him untill the general is OP there's no contrast, i said the same thing.... |
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 5, 2015 15:52:31 GMT
With "in contrast to you, I don't have a hack version ", I meant that I do not have a hack version, while you do have a hack version.
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Post by General Winter on Nov 5, 2015 16:01:12 GMT
With "in contrast to you, I don't have a hack version ", I meant that I do not have a hack version, while you do have a hack version. True dat plus, nobody can legitly upgrade Pontiaowski that high for free... unlike that guy has the hacked Version can. We are talking about Generals that dont need upgrading in everything.... You must be obsessed with Pontiowski |
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 5, 2015 20:33:13 GMT
With "in contrast to you, I don't have a hack version ", I meant that I do not have a hack version, while you do have a hack version. True dat plus, nobody can legitly upgrade Pontiaowski that high for free... unlike that guy has the hacked Version can. We are talking about Generals that dont need upgrading in everything.... You must be obsessed with Pontiowski Look at the top right side of the picture. There it says that he has more than 118 million medals. That's only possible of you have a hacked version or are a hardcore EW4 fan |
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Post by it's me again on Nov 6, 2015 1:13:56 GMT
Come on guys, i'm really busy so i can't play hours and hours for medals... it's just for fun, in fact most of the conquest i only use the default generals and hired in bars, if not it's just kutuzov or poniatowski for forts-ships. But anyway, Suvurov, the hacked game is excellent for game exploiting and discover the secrets of this game The original version i actually have on my pc, but i am more focused on my phone just for get the princess victoria. But again if you want the elite generals...  PD: in 1809 conquest Rhine there's this general called Jeronime, business trainer and economic expert, no combat stars. Is this the king Jeronime I Bounaparti?? |
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 6, 2015 1:23:11 GMT
Come on guys, i'm really busy so i can't play hours and hours for medals... it's just for fun, in fact most of the conquest i only use the default generals and hired in bars, if not it's just kutuzov or poniatowski for forts-ships. But anyway, Suvurov, the hacked game is excellent for game exploiting and discover the secrets of this game The original version i actually have on my pc, but i am more focused on my phone just for get the princess victoria. But again if you want the elite generals... PD: in 1809 conquest Rhine there's this general called Jeronime, business trainer and economic expert, no combat stars. Is this the king Jeronime I Bounaparti?? The point is that you say Poniatowski is great when you use him, but of course he is great when you have him upgraded to max stars. The analysis is about the base stats of the generals, not the after effect of upgrading him which that amount of upgrading wouldn't be able to be done in the normal game if you are playing smartly. |
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Post by General Winter on Nov 6, 2015 1:56:25 GMT
Nobody can upgrade a general fully in a normal game..... saying that pontiowski is better than everybody.... he is good when he is upgraded fully.... not many players can do that in normal game... Pontiowski is less better than Lannes, not even in the level of Golytsin... (except assault art) Lannes is good but suvorov is better
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Post by General Winter on Nov 6, 2015 2:05:01 GMT
PLUS NELSON IS VERY VERY GOOD
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 6, 2015 2:07:27 GMT
PLUS NELSON IS VERY VERY GOOD Kate is better. Not just saying that, I believe that she is actually better due to skills and such. |
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Post by General Winter on Nov 6, 2015 2:40:42 GMT
i kniw... lel
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 6, 2015 6:35:04 GMT
For today, all tier 2 generals will be adder. All generals will get placed together in their colour group. I am thinking about adding a section with generals with good skills but can transform into very good generals when regrouped.
Cheapest infantry ,cavalry, navy, artillery, movement, trade generals I will add
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Post by kanue on Nov 6, 2015 8:09:39 GMT
I think training a general to 5 stars in one particular area is feasible for most players so we should add it into consideration. Like, upgrading Sophia to 5 stars artillery or Lan to 5 stars cavalry. Anyway, I am looking forward to see more of your analysis.  |
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Post by Suvorov on Nov 6, 2015 20:49:19 GMT
Update: Princesses have been added, dozens of generals have gotten a place in my post, better explanation of my analysis. I worked a full hour (From 20:28-21:48 on this). I hope you guys need at some point this. I will keep working at this today for a bit.
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