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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 22, 2019 21:39:33 GMT
Actually its in order of price. Napoleon has more ba than blucher who has more ba than wellesley. Which is very interesting You sure? Blucher is the only IAP who doesn’t crack 100 BA at emperor. (he has 98 without any items) Yes but he also starts with higher cavarly ability. Napoleon has around 60 ability, wellesley 54. Blucher has 64. So in combining their abilities, wellesley has 135 at start, blucher 138, and napoleon 142. Its minor differences though |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 22, 2019 21:40:02 GMT
Here’s another one. Who is better? Wellesley or washington?
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Post by SolidLight on Sept 22, 2019 21:58:15 GMT
Here’s another one. Who is better? Wellesley or washington? Hm, That’s intercept+mountain+huge stats vs formation master+plain. I’m gonna go with washington this time, he’s easy and flexible to use. Wellesley on the other hand is really situational. (fighting horses in mountains, wtf ET?) |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 26, 2019 18:00:50 GMT
Here’s another one. Who is better? Wellesley or washington? Hm, That’s intercept+mountain+huge stats vs formation master+plain. I’m gonna go with washington this time, he’s easy and flexible to use. Wellesley on the other hand is really situational. (fighting horses in mountains, wtf ET?) I thought about your situation more. If you want a standalone infantry general, I would recommend massena, karl, or lannes. Lannes is the cheapest of them all and also the easiest to use. He is a solid choice as he is king. The damage between him and bismarck is very much negligible considering the price gap. He can also kill cavarly while also hitting harder than massena against cities. If you only need 1 infantry, why not get the cheapest? Massena is a nice option as you can shove the lvl 6 inf commander medal on him and have an aura of 3 hexes. He has 2 skills, aura and assualt, that trigger all the time, formation master for those occassional very powerful crits, tunnel for blowing up cities, and inspiration to reduce damage taken. A great and cheap choice as well. No terrain requirements is a bonus to also that massena and napoleon share in common. Karl is like lannes with formation master and ambush essentially. Jungle is going to be a bit more frustrating than plain fighting as well all know and karl’s damage against cities won’t be even close to lannes which will be like a nuke going off. Overall, he is 1200 medals more than lannes, but his formation master might make a big enough difference to save his life in certain situations. Equip any of them with a tent and a ferguson and you will have a strong general. |
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Post by SolidLight on Sept 26, 2019 18:40:53 GMT
Hm, That’s intercept+mountain+huge stats vs formation master+plain. I’m gonna go with washington this time, he’s easy and flexible to use. Wellesley on the other hand is really situational. (fighting horses in mountains, wtf ET?) I thought about your situation more. If you want a standalone infantry general, I would recommend massena, karl, or lannes. Lannes is the cheapest of them all and also the easiest to use. He is a solid choice as he is king. The damage between him and bismarck is very much negligible considering the price gap. He can also kill cavarly while also hitting harder than massena against cities. If you only need 1 infantry, why not get the cheapest? Massena is a nice option as you can shove the lvl 6 inf commander medal on him and have an aura of 3 hexes. He has 2 skills, aura and assualt, that trigger all the time, formation master for those occassional very powerful crits, tunnel for blowing up cities, and inspiration to reduce damage taken. A great and cheap choice as well. No terrain requirements is a bonus to also that massena and napoleon share in common. Karl is like lannes with formation master and ambush essentially. Jungle is going to be a bit more frustrating than plain fighting as well all know and karl’s damage against cities won’t be even close to lannes which will be like a nuke going off. Overall, he is 1200 medals more than lannes, but his formation master might make a big enough difference to save his life in certain situations. Equip any of them with a tent and a ferguson and you will have a strong general. I can definetly see that I underestimated infantry after playing through Warsaw 1798. Now infantry is still worse (and less cool) than cavalry , but sometimes the best countries to beat the records are nations with terrible economies and difficult access to stables. It's not that I need a standalone infantryman. I just need a man who can siege better and more consistently than Massena. All I have left to do in this game is to run LTC conquests (because screw Crimean War). I do have the three aura infantrymen as I have all the slots, but even Massena is a bit inconsistent for what I need to do, and I never ever use Barclay. So I'm probably going to kick Barclay off the team for either Lannes or Bismarck (since he lives longer) if I feel like grinding for him. I'm also considering dropping Alexander and Mahmud for Sophia and Scharnhorst because artillery is expensive and thus hard to spam, the latter two are easier to use, deal more damage induvidually, and I've given up on Crimean war anyway. Also do you really find forest so much harder to use than plain is? Forests are EVERYWHERE man. I never ever struggle to use it when I use Karl. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Sept 26, 2019 22:23:59 GMT
SolidLight I thought about your situation more. If you want a standalone infantry general, I would recommend massena, karl, or lannes. Lannes is the cheapest of them all and also the easiest to use. He is a solid choice as he is king. The damage between him and bismarck is very much negligible considering the price gap. He can also kill cavarly while also hitting harder than massena against cities. If you only need 1 infantry, why not get the cheapest? Massena is a nice option as you can shove the lvl 6 inf commander medal on him and have an aura of 3 hexes. He has 2 skills, aura and assualt, that trigger all the time, formation master for those occassional very powerful crits, tunnel for blowing up cities, and inspiration to reduce damage taken. A great and cheap choice as well. No terrain requirements is a bonus to also that massena and napoleon share in common. Karl is like lannes with formation master and ambush essentially. Jungle is going to be a bit more frustrating than plain fighting as well all know and karl’s damage against cities won’t be even close to lannes which will be like a nuke going off. Overall, he is 1200 medals more than lannes, but his formation master might make a big enough difference to save his life in certain situations. Equip any of them with a tent and a ferguson and you will have a strong general. I can definetly see that I underestimated infantry after playing through Warsaw 1798. Now infantry is still worse (and less cool) than cavalry , but sometimes the best countries to beat the records are nations with terrible economies and difficult access to stables. It's not that I need a standalone infantryman. I just need a man who can siege better and more consistently than Massena. All I have left to do in this game is to run LTC conquests (because screw Crimean War). I do have the three aura infantrymen as I have all the slots, but even Massena is a bit inconsistent for what I need to do, and I never ever use Barclay. So I'm probably going to kick Barclay off the team for either Lannes or Bismarck (since he lives longer) if I feel like grinding for him. I'm also considering dropping Alexander and Mahmud for Sophia and Scharnhorst because artillery is expensive and thus hard to spam, the latter two are easier to use, deal more damage induvidually, and I've given up on Crimean war anyway. Also do you really find forest so much harder to use than plain is? Forests are EVERYWHERE man. I never ever struggle to use it when I use Karl. I find them every other turn i’d say. Great bonus but not as good as plains. I’d keep mahmud as he can crit but definitely scrap alex. Artillery is also pretty slow so scharnhorst may be a better choice than sophia (artillery is really slow so finding plains with it is usually the hardest). Yeah infantry can be quite devastating for a rather cheap price. They are also very helpful in conquest. |
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Post by Gone on Oct 6, 2019 18:05:55 GMT
Funny how Wellington (field-marshal) is gold, despite he was a lower rank not only than Napoleon, but also Ney, Massena, Lannes and others (marshals of Empire). Same, Nelson is gold (vice-admiral) and Villneuve (admiral) is only blue, not even purple. I get that this is game-wise based on commanding strength, but still funny  Rank doesn’t determine competence. Villeneuve ranked more than Nelson but he was nowhere as close in terms of competence and brilliance. |
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Post by Gone on Oct 9, 2019 16:01:09 GMT
Wellesley should have Assault, Formation Master, Tunnel, Infantry Master and Plain Fighting. That way he would be an amazing IAP.
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 9, 2019 17:42:18 GMT
Wellesley should have Assault, Formation Master, Tunnel, Infantry Master and Plain Fighting. That way he would be an amazing IAP. If only that would really represent how he was IRL. He was really good at using terrain and the like to reduce the incoming damage, particularily from artillery.. Hence mountain and his defensive skills. I still wish they fit infantry master in there somewhere. He can have that without being too different from IRL Wellesley. |
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Post by Gone on Oct 9, 2019 18:02:21 GMT
Wellesley should have Assault, Formation Master, Tunnel, Infantry Master and Plain Fighting. That way he would be an amazing IAP. If only that would really represent how he was IRL. He was really good at using terrain and the like to reduce the incoming damage, particularily from artillery.. Hence mountain and his defensive skills. I still wish they fit infantry master in there somewhere. He can have that without being too different from IRL Wellesley. Well, at least ET goes for historical accuracy when it comes to generals. Because when it comes to Conquest... *looks at French-occupied Portugal in 1805* |
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Post by Gone on Oct 13, 2019 1:23:37 GMT
Actually there is always a weak IAP gen in ET games. In WC3 there was even 2 weak gens. So having Blucher and Napoleon as good IAP is already quite OK  I wouldn’t really consider Eisenhower a bad iap, as he was a great air general, and a fantastic naval general, as he was the only one with explosives. Plus he can be used on any unit imaginable. Zhukov wasn’t bad either, but he is a bad hybrid, as the only time i shove him on a tank is whenever I want to kamikaze him to take out japan while playing as the soviet union in 1960. I also send Eisenhower in much the same manner to take out Brazil. Fun times. Desaix isn’t also the best. Most people would buy him just because of the daily 100 medals that come with him, but having a general that feels more like a complement than someone you would constantly use feels a bit bad. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 13, 2019 2:17:48 GMT
I wouldn’t really consider Eisenhower a bad iap, as he was a great air general, and a fantastic naval general, as he was the only one with explosives. Plus he can be used on any unit imaginable. Zhukov wasn’t bad either, but he is a bad hybrid, as the only time i shove him on a tank is whenever I want to kamikaze him to take out japan while playing as the soviet union in 1960. I also send Eisenhower in much the same manner to take out Brazil. Fun times. Desaix isn’t also the best. Most people would buy him just because of the daily 100 medals that come with him, but having a general that feels more like a complement than someone you would constantly use feels a bit bad. Paget is a general I would not mind having honestly. |
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Post by Gone on Oct 13, 2019 2:25:03 GMT
Desaix isn’t also the best. Most people would buy him just because of the daily 100 medals that come with him, but having a general that feels more like a complement than someone you would constantly use feels a bit bad. Paget is a general I would not mind having honestly. He is better than Desaix. None of Paget’s skills are useless, the worst one being Surprise Attack which actually isn’t that bad. Now Maneuver is a nearly useless skill (And sadly, Desaix's most leveled-up skill) and Desert Fighting, while not useless at all, is less useful than Edge. Paget also has Tactics Master. Fortunately, at least Desaix has Counterattack. But it’s not enough to compensate the fact that Paget has Edge and Tactics Master on him. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 13, 2019 2:28:15 GMT
Paget is a general I would not mind having honestly. He is better than Desaix. None of Paget’s skills are useless, the worst one being Surprise Attack which actually isn’t that bad. Now Maneuver is a nearly useless skill (And sadly, Desaix's most leveled-up skill) and Desert Fighting, while not useless at all, is less useful than Edge. Paget also has Tactics Master. Fortunately, at least Desaix has Counterattack. But it’s not enough to compensate the fact that Paget has Edge and Tactics Master on him. I think that tactics master is not the best for cavarly. Once you get super late game, enemies have massive hp and deal tons of damage. But he can be a good city cracker and also a good general to crush spam. But desaix does have surprise + counterattack making him good at capturing cities. |
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Post by Gone on Oct 13, 2019 2:35:13 GMT
He is better than Desaix. None of Paget’s skills are useless, the worst one being Surprise Attack which actually isn’t that bad. Now Maneuver is a nearly useless skill (And sadly, Desaix's most leveled-up skill) and Desert Fighting, while not useless at all, is less useful than Edge. Paget also has Tactics Master. Fortunately, at least Desaix has Counterattack. But it’s not enough to compensate the fact that Paget has Edge and Tactics Master on him. I think that tactics master is not the best for cavarly. Once you get super late game, enemies have massive hp and deal tons of damage. But he can be a good city cracker and also a good general to crush spam. But desaix does have surprise + counterattack making him good at capturing cities. That’s true. For an IAP General, though, he feels a bit disappointing. But here’s a fun fact: He’s the general that starts with the highest rank in the game, a colonel. Not even the other IAPs and the Princesses have that rank. They have Lieutenant Colonel rank. It isn’t a lot, however. Desaix starts with 5% more HP and you will spend 150 less medals to upgrade his rank. You can upgrade him straight to M General and give him a secondary item. |
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