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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jun 21, 2018 6:57:30 GMT
Both seem good but Masséna can’t go up to emperor. Who should I pick?
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Post by stoic on Jun 21, 2018 7:02:42 GMT
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Post by stoic on Jun 21, 2018 7:07:34 GMT
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jun 21, 2018 7:39:06 GMT
Only Inf General I have is Bismarck, I’m thinking Masséna would be a better choice since I already have him
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Post by andrei on Jun 21, 2018 10:15:43 GMT
King and Emperor is not a big difference. However 4% deff points is also not bad boost. Emperor and Prince is quite significant. |
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Post by best75 on Jun 21, 2018 12:13:30 GMT
The question on which general is better is not easily answered. As I recall both stoic and yuanzhong made good points in their discussion on which general is better. For me I prefer Massena due to him having the infantry Assault skill. |
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Post by Mountbatten on Jun 21, 2018 14:43:27 GMT
I bought Massena and he's been great so far. You already have Bismarck for large damage output, Karl is basically the same thing. Massena can be a strong support general for Bismarck.
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Post by andrei on Jun 21, 2018 15:40:48 GMT
Massena is only a Prince at max?
I have no idea why nobody takes into account quite significant difference in deff if comparing to Karl. Not only attack.
Imo deff is almost same important.
Price? In Ew6 we can grind. It is not EW5, so why not to take the best instead of cheap?
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Post by odm on Jun 21, 2018 17:51:07 GMT
Massena is only a Prince at max? I have no idea why nobody takes into account quite significant difference in deff if comparing to Karl. Not only attack. Imo deff is almost same important. Price? In Ew6 we can grind. It is not EW5, so why not to take the best instead of cheap? Totally agree, however I think both could be in the best lineup (Massena has good skills+pretty good attack and Prince is ok) |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 21, 2018 23:03:53 GMT
Massena is only a Prince at max? I have no idea why nobody takes into account quite significant difference in deff if comparing to Karl. Not only attack. Imo deff is almost same important. Price? In Ew6 we can grind. It is not EW5, so why not to take the best instead of cheap? Grinding is one of the best exploits in the game There is literally no problem if you are to buy cheap generals but also no reason at all. I stand by my opinion in investing to expensive but good generals but I also stand to the fact that we all share our own opinions and play the game differently. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 22, 2018 4:24:57 GMT
Massena is only a Prince at max? I have no idea why nobody takes into account quite significant difference in deff if comparing to Karl. Not only attack. Imo deff is almost same important. Price? In Ew6 we can grind. It is not EW5, so why not to take the best instead of cheap?   Massena (Prince) vs. Suvorov (King). Def. 36 vs. Def. 37. Not a big deal, imo... And as we know Emperor has not any additional defense bonus in comparison to King. |
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Post by andrei on Jun 22, 2018 4:59:43 GMT
Massena is only a Prince at max? I have no idea why nobody takes into account quite significant difference in deff if comparing to Karl. Not only attack. Imo deff is almost same important. Price? In Ew6 we can grind. It is not EW5, so why not to take the best instead of cheap? Massena (Prince) vs. Suvorov (King). Def. 36 vs. Def. 37. Not a big deal, imo... And as we know Emperor has not any additional defense bonus in comparison to King. Hmm... A bit higher Karl's deff - not a big deal, a bit higher Karl's attack - not a big deal. Summary: Massena is better! Isn't it weird?  You appeal to Massena's skill for infantry. But ignore Karl's huge bonus from forrest (which is imo much better). What the real influence of the skill You appeal to in comparison to Karl's 25% boost (taking into account that his basic stats are better). |
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jun 22, 2018 5:04:53 GMT
I’m thinking bout Karl to boost Bismarck
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Post by stoic on Jun 22, 2018 5:25:58 GMT
Massena (Prince) vs. Suvorov (King). Def. 36 vs. Def. 37. Not a big deal, imo... And as we know Emperor has not any additional defense bonus in comparison to King. Hmm... A bit higher Karl's deff - not a big deal, a bit higher Karl's attack - not a big deal. Summary: Massena is better! Isn't it weird? You appeal to Massena's skill for infantry. But ignore Karl's huge bonus from forrest (which is imo much better). What the real influence of the skill You appeal to on comparison to Karl's 25% boost (taking into account that his basic stats are better). Karl has 25% boost in forests. Ok. But what does this mean in practical terms? How strong should be the basic attack of the unit so that this boost could be better than Assault? Assault means 20 points of damage everywhere, plus Massena has other 20 points of damage when attaking cities, plus potentially other 6 points of attack (Inspiration). And the difference between Karl and Massena when we compare their defence is 1 or (at best) 2 points. Karl is deffinitely better only in forests when fighting against cavalry units and his survivability is slightly better (though I have no clue how good Ambush is) I don't think there are enough reasons to prefer him over Massena. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 22, 2018 5:47:03 GMT
Btw, Inspiration gives us 8 points of attack
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