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Post by stoic on Jun 22, 2018 9:13:15 GMT
Oh, yes, my bad  I would advise you to update the game, though. Netherlands 1798 is quite a good way to earn medals now. 9 times out of 10 it is possible to switch to autoplay after 10-12 turns. This update increase 10% of initial defence. May be future update, the more ability point for each title upgrade, then Karl will be better with his Emperor Title  That will be another story, then |
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Post by stoic on Jun 22, 2018 9:16:11 GMT
And you guys can convince as good as I can I definitely will hire Karl as well, if we will ever need more than 6 generals |
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Post by xerexes on Jun 22, 2018 12:51:38 GMT
Am I the only one not hiring both |
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Post by TK421 on Jun 22, 2018 17:05:06 GMT
Am I the only one not hiring both Cav is where it's at, breh. Who needs those Infantry scrubs, anyhow? |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 22, 2018 17:50:44 GMT
Am I the only one not hiring both Cav is where it's at, breh. Who needs those Infantry scrubs, anyhow? Same! I chose the cav gen Davout over the numerous inf gens. My second gen (not yet bought) will also ignore inf! The 2 free gens are enough! |
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jun 22, 2018 20:17:00 GMT
I like to branch out, but my favorite still has to be cav no joke
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Post by Mountbatten on Jun 22, 2018 22:00:03 GMT
Cav is where it's at, breh. Who needs those Infantry scrubs, anyhow? Same! I chose the cav gen Davout over the numerous inf gens. My second gen (not yet bought) will also ignore inf! The 2 free gens are enough! Gates and Clinton? They were definitely not enough for me. They were getting two-shotted by enemy infantry gens  Also you will end up getting 6 or 7 gens probably, I don't think it's possible to not have one of them as infantry at least. You'd have to argue that a third artillery general like Scott is better than Bismarck |
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jun 28, 2018 9:22:43 GMT
Massena or Kutuzov? Now I want an arty gen XD
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Post by yuanzhong on Jun 28, 2018 10:02:21 GMT
Massena or Kutuzov? Now I want an arty gen XD LOL You want an arty gen so Kutuzov for sure |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 28, 2018 10:16:37 GMT
*Thread is split among Karl and Massena while everyone who has the Post Update Wellesley is laughing at the distance*
And yes since I’m a pro general user (one who just uses generals to take over everything), I prefer generals with more singular skills than aura skills since that’s how I play it.
Basically the strongest infantry general for me is the one with the highest possible battle ability and also the highest possible infantry ability too.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jun 29, 2018 2:48:25 GMT
*Thread is split among Karl and Massena while everyone who has the Post Update Wellesley is laughing at the distance* And yes since I’m a pro general user (one who just uses generals to take over everything), I prefer generals with more singular skills than aura skills since that’s how I play it. Basically the strongest infantry general for me is the one with the highest possible battle ability and also the highest possible infantry ability too. 1. We discuss about Massena and Karl not means they are best General, just because they can become most popular generals in this game. IAP gens are not for all players. 2. In Cav and Art, many people agreed that Napoleon and Blucher are the best generals in their type, not only because of stats but also their skills set. But Wellesley is different. It's hard to show all so I give you 4 pics: Pure unit:
 Karl, Massena and Wellesley (Please notice their rank, Karl and Massena are lower than Wellesley)
   Wellesley has 2 flat buff (+20 damage when use inf, + 20 damage when attacking Cav), 1 terrain buff (Mountain) Karl has 1 flat buff (+20 damage when attacking Cav), 1 terrain buff (Jungle) Massena has 2 flat buff (+ 20 damage when use Inf + 20 damage when attacking City). In Wellesley best situation except terrain buff (Use Inf and attacking Cav), he is weaker than Karl and Massena a bit. In Wellesley best situation (Use Inf, in suitable terrain and attacking Cav), he's weaker than Karl and better than Massena. One more thing, Jungle is easier to find than Mountain. In other case, he's weaker than Massena and Karl, that's only about the atk stats, i don't count critical strike skill while Massena and Karl have but Wellesley doesn't. In future update, base stats of unit will be increase, so Wellesley's advantage of base stats can become bigger than now but I think he isn't irreplaceable like Blucher and Napoleon. Though he has best Survival skills set in Inf, but we need to attack to win this game . Ability point is not the all of general, the skill is more important. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jun 29, 2018 4:13:55 GMT
Some calculation:
Base atk stat of unit: 58
Wellesley: Base stat x (100% + Percentage from ability points) = 58 x (100% + (140/4)%) = 78.3 (round to 78)
Karl: (Base stat + Buff from halo skill) x (100% + Percentage from ability points) = (58 + 20) x (100% + ((66 + 58)/4)%) = 102.18 (round to 102)
If base on percentage in general screen: (58 + 20) x 130% = 101.4 (not 102) this is number of Massena (who the percentage and the exact number is same) not Karl.
That means total percentage of Karl is 31%, not 30%
When Karl is on Jungle grid, lvl 3 Jungle fighting (15%) the atk stat is 113.
That means: (Base stat + Buff from halo skill) x (100% + Percentage from ability points + Percentage from terrain buff) = 78 x (100%+31%+15%) = 113.88 (round to 113)
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jun 29, 2018 8:18:59 GMT
Massena or Kutuzov? Now I want an arty gen XD LOL You want an arty gen so Kutuzov for sure Jourdan isn’t doing it for me XD |
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Post by odm on Jun 29, 2018 10:25:23 GMT
LOL You want an arty gen so Kutuzov for sure Jourdan isn’t doing it for me XD Off-topic: Jourdan is probably the best free general that we get (and I have King Kutuzov and I don't think he is that great. On-topic: Nice work doing the math. However, I think that because of the stat increase in the future having Massena and Karl will prove to be very important (just so one could spam OP Militia or Rifleman)... the aura skill is very important not because of self-bonus, but for the other units too. |
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Post by Iosef Stalin on Aug 29, 2018 13:37:41 GMT
IMO, Massena. But you make that pick yourself.
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I would advise you to update the game, though. Netherlands 1798 is quite a good way to earn medals now. 9 times out of 10 it is possible to switch to autoplay after 10-12 turns.
