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Post by andrei on May 21, 2019 6:03:17 GMT
You mean You recieved same results with gens lvl like cojoncio is using? All those allies full health and chasing his generals in Russia? There is no any doubt that such result (quantity of turns) is doable. The question is: how exactly with such a team and allies? Not exactly. Was able to replicate the Great Britain and Denmark 1812, although it took some time and it isn't consistent. Also, i did it with max gens and max unit upgrades, so yeah.That's why i'm gonna be on the neutral side for now. Oh, that's actually good that You did UK1812. Unfortunately I have no game right now, so can't check it on my own. But I loved Britain1812 just for fun and I see (as the distance is soo huge) that bringing Wellington to Asia Minor is like 30 turns by Mediterranian if You don't spend turns on fighting at all and start moving (and will be able to avoid enemies in the Sea which is very unlikely) at turn 1. And that is why it is so strange to see the stongest gen in this conquest in Asia Minor near Ankara at turn 33. It is not what You normally do if You aim for speedrun, I mean You normally use Your strongest gen to fight, not to just sail all the conquest. So the only reasonable explanation: Wellington steamrolled trough all those enemy countries (let's say alone or almost alone) conquering cities and using Forced march. I just don't understand how exactly this or that was done by the player in UK and Saxony. And the questions are very easy imo, as when You beat a record You normally play many times same strategy to work out the best solution and You normally know exactly how and when to do. Now it is very suspicious. Especially when we see his team is let's say mostly not upgraded to fight effectively in 1812 and 1815. |
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Post by stoic on May 21, 2019 7:33:31 GMT
Not exactly. Was able to replicate the Great Britain and Denmark 1812, although it took some time and it isn't consistent. Also, i did it with max gens and max unit upgrades, so yeah.That's why i'm gonna be on the neutral side for now.ย at first i thought he had to cheat but after the example with warsaw i don't know anymore I think we have a complex situation here. I really don't think that everithing he says is a lie. Far from it. Even some of his achievments may be true. The question is whether everything he says is a truth. As we have seen there are many unanswered questions. What could be easier than to answer those questions long ago or to make a video with Saxony or England. Yet all requests to do this were declined or ignored. |
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Post by stoic on May 21, 2019 8:09:35 GMT
You mean You recieved same results with gens lvl like cojoncio is using? All those allies full health and chasing his generals in Russia? There is no any doubt that such result (quantity of turns) is doable. The question is: how exactly with such a team and allies? Not exactly. Was able to replicate the Great Britain and Denmark 1812, although it took some time and it isn't consistent. Also, i did it with max gens and max unit upgrades, so yeah.That's why i'm gonna be on the neutral side for now.ย And how about one upgraded general - Murat? Karl: critical strike increased probability - almost nonexistent, forest fighting - lvl 2. Scharnhorst: not a single skill is upgraded and he is a major! All expirienced players know how important is an increased probability of critical strikes. And yet Massena - lvl.1, Karl - lvl.1, Davout - lvl2, Scharnhorst - lvl 2, Sophia - lvl2. Pair of Artillery generals is a joke - unupgraded Scharnhorst and mediocre Sophia (not a single skill lvl5). And yet we hear time and again that they smash cities one after another or destroy the whole flank of the Russians and the Austrians. As I said many times - I'm ready to believe that all successes were possible because it was a brilliant strategy.ย But when we have questions about this strategy or ask to make a video - we have silence in reply. To be honest, I am more suspicius now than I ever was in this case exactly because of that. At the beginning there were simple questions and since then we haven't advanced anywhere. Not an inch... I don't think there is any sense in repeating all arguments again and again. The ball is on cojoncio 's side... |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 21, 2019 10:06:27 GMT
I tried a spain speedrun with nearly the level of cojoncio team but i finished it an a rank. My tech are almost maxed that only one upgrades on cavalry and artillery. Just saying. |
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Post by cojoncio on May 23, 2019 1:37:24 GMT
Folks,
Definitively, andrei and stoic you are correct in 99% of what you say.
But you forget something. Seems that you forgot the purpose of a speed conquest. The purpose is not killing enemies, is conquering cities. Killing enemies takes time, and you are running against the clock....and most of the times, is better not to kill than to kill. I am a pacific conqueror 
Seems that you don't read or catch the clues I give in my posts. I always say that you should check in the winning screen shots the number of enemies killed. Another clue: In Warsaw 1806, I killed only 1 enemy to get Prussia in 3 turns.
Again, is not the team you have. Is what you do with what you have.
I am enjoying myself, I know!
Till the next tip!
Cojoncio
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Post by cojoncio on May 23, 2019 1:58:57 GMT
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Post by cojoncio on May 23, 2019 2:02:42 GMT
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 23, 2019 2:26:17 GMT
cojoncio , they want to know how you do it. Not just pictures but the way you do the conquest speedrun. I wanna try that 
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Post by stoic on May 23, 2019 4:47:12 GMT
cojoncioSpain captured the first city in Ireland in 12 turns!? And another one after that. It seems that your allies speedrun as well It seems for some reasons you are refusing to hear what we are speaking of. What we asked for are: 1. clear strategic goals of this particular conquest. 2. description of a plan to achieve those goals. 3. execution of this plan illustrated with screenshots. For example: "My first priority in the West is to capture London in (x) turns, therefore I do: 1. this 2. that 3. that Here are the screenshots with movements of my troops towards London". Or another example: "My goal in the North is to capture northern Russian cities without any tough opposition. Therefore I plan to do: 1. this 2. that 3. that Here you can see how I achieve this". What could be more easy than that? Yet you continue to bombard us with new posts without explanations. We are not going anywhere like that. It is not a synonym of fun to study someone's screenshots without explanations. And we are forced to do so exactly because you are ignoring what we are saying. You can beat all records in the world, but without detailed explanation it will be in vain. And, btw, do you have some beliefs against making videos? 
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 23, 2019 4:51:03 GMT
Thanks for the info! If i managed break a record i will do that lol.
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Post by andrei on May 23, 2019 6:12:04 GMT
cojoncio , We are voting for the World fastest conqueror rank. In case You don't need it, no problem. No need to give explanations. It is up to community members whether to believe You or not and up to best75 whether to publish Your records in the table for future speedrunners or not. Because they will look at the table and try to beat this or that. I think that the results in Your screenshots are great and in case it is legit You definetely deserve it as anybody who can beat records. It is just doubtful right now. Nothing personal - there are questions we have no answers and You don't even try to answer those question and prepare another records with no explanations again.
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Post by stoic on May 23, 2019 6:33:26 GMT
Btw, why there is a difference in color between some French units. For example, French units between Corsica and Sardinia or units in the North Africa (turn 23)?. Just interesting...
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Post by Navia Lanoira on May 23, 2019 6:36:16 GMT
Btw, why there is a difference in color between some French units. For example, French units between Corsica and Sardinia or units in the North Africa (turn 23). Just interesting... I think it isnโt noticeable. |
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Post by Seger on May 23, 2019 6:40:25 GMT
Btw, why there is a difference in color between some French units. For example, French units between Corsica and Sardinia or units in the North Africa (turn 23)?. Just interesting... Because of the sand of course |
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Post by stoic on May 23, 2019 6:41:59 GMT
Btw, why there is a difference in color between some French units. For example, French units between Corsica and Sardinia or units in the North Africa (turn 23). Just interesting... I think it isnโt noticeable. I mean one French unit in Sardinia is bright and another one between two islands is samewhat pale... |
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. To celebrate the your action, I would like to post my new record: 1806, fastest 3 stars conqueror. I did it with France in 23 turns.
