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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 19:02:02 GMT
I am gonna keep this as brief as possible to not make it a tedius to read, but I think that mih is actually inferior to octavian and drusus. Lets analyze what makes Mihridates special. He is good at killing weak units. Imo, these are better off ignored as their damage is weak and they drain away the population space of your enemy. The ideal way to use him is to super stack him on a tier 5 unit and have him attack a strong unit like a heavy infantry or one with a general. The best way to use him you have to fight against a strong general like Crassus along with your time. Don’t even bother using mihridates to attack a general with shield wall. Otherwise, the only other use mihridates vi has is as a clean up guy for weak units, which are really of no threat. So let’s analyze the advantages that Mihridates VI brings: Archer Commander: undeniably the best skill in the game. But octavian has this as well doesn’t he? Excellent Skill Jungle Fighting: a strong skill no doubt. But both mihridates attacking a strong unit with less legions than him on a jungle tile is not really that common. It is inactive 50% of the time, and uneeded another 30% of the time. Due to fog of war, it is far inferior to pf. Better used on units such as Infantry or Cavalry as they are the ones that are in more need of higher output. Average Skill. Besiege + Scare: again, this is what separates Mih from octavian the most. Might make a difference when killing the stronger units like heavy cavarly or infantry. Works pretty well with archer commander? But is it really that good? Good skill only when archer commander triggers. Otherwise, average. Before you start questioning my opinion here, asking yourself? Is it archer commander that makes mihredates strong or besiege? Octavian has besiege with a better talent, and Drusus has neither, but isn’t hurt at all by it. Advantage: this is a good skill to have early on. But later on in the game, when you have multiple generals needing the oration tactic, even the ones without the roar/assualt/sailor/advantage skills will find themselves in need of inspiration. Oration lasts for 3 turns, so you can at most use it on 3 units on a consistent basis. You can give migridates a golden ring only in campaigns as he is very slow. Good skill. 9 stars archer ability: redundant. Makes really no difference whatsoever. Octavian may lose the 9th archer star, but he gains accuracy, which is a mandatory skill on an archer, and a better talent. Drusus is much better at staying alive and deals consistently high critical damage. Even counterattack is a better addition than jungle fighting as it is the only way that archers take damage. Conclusion: I still think he is a great choice to make. But is he really as good as the other 2? Yes  . Have you seen him crit against a Cavalry unit? One of the most satisfying moments I've saw is him dropping a 2 stacked light Cavalry from 100-0 just with a crit. He's an executioner basically, and you need him to constantly attack to make sure his talent and besiege procs. Just focus all your orations on him and give him the golden spear/crossbow. He destroys any Cavalry with a lower force than him, even infantry. Doesn't need much investment to be great. Compared to the 2,he has an overall higher output than both. Tested him, liked him, but loaded game and bought tiberius instead. Tiberius ftw. |
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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Aug 11, 2019 19:04:11 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus ,yes im thinkin in this a time ago (around 2-3 days xd), probably i will change my mithridates for octavian and probably i will buy Scipio/ Huo instead of Arminius. I dont want to complete the game with the best generals or items, i dont want to buy the laurel crown, because i want to attack my perfectionism and have a austere game Huo / Scipio (crossbow) - Pacorus I (Pompeii gladius) Octavian (Crossbow) - Drusus (Pompeii Gladius) - Pedius (pompeii gladius) Pompey (Crossbow) - Labienus (Pompeii Gladius) - Crassus (Crossbow) I think this team is cheap and good, dont need medal items, probably for speedrun is bad, but im not a speedrunner and i think for the moment is enough to complete the game.
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 19:14:42 GMT
I am gonna keep this as brief as possible to not make it a tedius to read, but I think that mih is actually inferior to octavian and drusus. Lets analyze what makes Mihridates special. He is good at killing weak units. Imo, these are better off ignored as their damage is weak and they drain away the population space of your enemy. The ideal way to use him is to super stack him on a tier 5 unit and have him attack a strong unit like a heavy infantry or one with a general. The best way to use him you have to fight against a strong general like Crassus along with your time. Don’t even bother using mihridates to attack a general with shield wall. Otherwise, the only other use mihridates vi has is as a clean up guy for weak units, which are really of no threat. So let’s analyze the advantages that Mihridates VI brings: Archer Commander: undeniably the best skill in the game. But octavian has this as well doesn’t he? Excellent Skill Jungle Fighting: a strong skill no doubt. But both mihridates attacking a strong unit with less legions than him on a jungle tile is not really that common. It is inactive 50% of the time, and uneeded another 30% of the time. Due to fog of war, it is far inferior to pf. Better used on units such as Infantry or Cavalry as they are the ones that are in more need of higher output. Average Skill. Besiege + Scare: again, this is what separates Mih from octavian the most. Might make a difference when killing the stronger units like heavy cavarly or infantry. Works pretty well with archer commander? But is it really that good? Good skill only when archer commander triggers. Otherwise, average. Before you start questioning my opinion here, asking yourself? Is it archer commander that makes mihredates strong or besiege? Octavian has besiege with a better talent, and Drusus has neither, but isn’t hurt at all by it. Advantage: this is a good skill to have early on. But later on in the game, when you have multiple generals needing the oration tactic, even the ones without the roar/assualt/sailor/advantage skills will find themselves in need of inspiration. Oration lasts for 3 turns, so you can at most use it on 3 units on a consistent basis. You can give migridates a golden ring only in campaigns as he is very slow. Good skill. 9 stars archer ability: redundant. Makes really no difference whatsoever. Octavian may lose the 9th archer star, but he gains accuracy, which is a mandatory skill on an archer, and a better talent. Drusus is much better at staying alive and deals consistently high critical damage. Even counterattack is a better addition than jungle fighting as it is the only way that archers take damage. Conclusion: I still think he is a great choice to make. But is he really as good as the other 2? Yes . Have you seen him crit against a Cavalry unit? One of the most satisfying moments I've saw is him dropping a 2 stacked light Cavalry from 100-0 just with a crit. He's an executioner basically, and you need him to constantly attack to make sure his talent and besiege procs. Just focus all your orations on him and give him the golden spear/crossbow. He destroys any Cavalry with a lower force than him, even infantry. Doesn't need much investment to be great. Compared to the 2,he has an overall higher output than both. Tested him, liked him, but loaded game and bought tiberius instead. Tiberius ftw. That wasn’t him, that was the horse archer. Even pedius dealt 200+ damage once on it. I fear that anything mih can do, any idiot with archer commander can as well |
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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Aug 11, 2019 19:16:14 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 19:21:27 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus ,yes im thinkin in this a time ago (around 2-3 days xd), probably i will change my mithridates for octavian and probably i will buy Scipio/ Huo instead of Arminius. I dont want to complete the game with the best generals or items, i dont want to buy the laurel crown, because i want to attack my perfectionism and have a austere game Huo / Scipio (crossbow) - Pacorus I (Pompeii gladius) Octavian (Crossbow) - Drusus (Pompeii Gladius) - Pedius (pompeii gladius) Pompey (Crossbow) - Labienus (Pompeii Gladius) - Crassus (Crossbow) I think this team is cheap and good, dont need medal items, probably for speedrun is bad, but im not a speedrunner and i think for the moment is enough to complete the game. I think that one jungle fighter is definitely needed and arminius is the best of all of them. He is better than huo imo due to his skill set. His talent is not the best though, but still better than Sentry. |
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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Aug 11, 2019 19:25:13 GMT
Yes, better i buy arminius xD, and after buy Scipio or keep pacorus. But before buy Crassus i will spend around 600 to make arminius marshal and buy the laurel crown
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 19:28:19 GMT
Yes, better i buy arminius xD, and after buy Scipio or keep pacorus. No mark anthony on your team is an issue I noticed. The guy is really helpful imo. I would get him prior to arminius. But keep pacorus i as long as you can. Your goal is to not have the perfect team but to beat the game |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 19:30:53 GMT
If there was a general who had archer and commander and nothing else early in the game, even he (or she) was a centurion and had 1 star in archer ability, for 90 medals, he would be a lifesaver.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 20:03:52 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, actually, that wasn't horse archer mithridates, that was the mithridates I bought and upgraded to marshal rank to see how he fares . He was on a bowman if I'm not mistaken. Had to reload the game since he was slow, like all archers
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 20:11:55 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus, actually, that wasn't horse archer mithridates, that was the mithridates I bought and upgraded to marshal rank to see how he fares . He was on a bowman if I'm not mistaken. Had to reload the game since he was slow, like all archers Oh that. Yeah I can see how he could do that with his talent. I don’t think that is a common occurence though. Or is it? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 20:14:32 GMT
I think we all know that mih is somewhere in the top 3 archer generals, advantage is a pretty good skill. The question is if he is better than octavian. I think octavian personally is better
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 20:16:44 GMT
Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus , actually, that wasn't horse archer mithridates, that was the mithridates I bought and upgraded to marshal rank to see how he fares . He was on a bowman if I'm not mistaken. Had to reload the game since he was slow, like all archers Oh that. Yeah I can see how he could do that with his talent. I don’t think that is a common occurence though. Or is it? With golden spear and high morals, probably common . If he crits, he hits hard. If not, he hits less than Drusus and slightly more than Octavian. Higher skill lvls and higher damage cap makes it so. Gonna get him when ET releases another update for another round of medal collecting. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 20:23:47 GMT
Oh that. Yeah I can see how he could do that with his talent. I don’t think that is a common occurence though. Or is it? With golden spear and high morals, probably common . If he crits, he hits hard. If not, he hits less than Drusus and slightly more than Octavian. Higher skill lvls and higher damage cap makes it so. Gonna get him when ET releases another update for another round of medal collecting. Ik, but my boi anthony needs the golden spear or the consuls spectre. Btw, I got 3 countries left in the punic wars conquest. the awful ones. Cessetani, Ambroges, Massalia (the ones hannibal and his brother leroy jenkins at). Any tips for an easy win? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 20:38:49 GMT
With golden spear and high morals, probably common . If he crits, he hits hard. If not, he hits less than Drusus and slightly more than Octavian. Higher skill lvls and higher damage cap makes it so. Gonna get him when ET releases another update for another round of medal collecting. Ik, but my boi anthony needs the golden spear or the consuls spectre. Btw, I got 3 countries left in the punic wars conquest. the awful ones. Cessetani, Ambroges, Massalia (the ones hannibal and his brother leroy jenkins at). Any tips for an easy win? I don't remember an easy win, only "thank God it's over" win . At least it's not the Odrysian kingdom. The standard "beating the closest enemy" works. Use all your generals to make your suffering end quicker . Ignore Hannibal and just go for the cities. Send a contingent force towards Carthage with Antony and Pompey/Crassus/both. Massalia scks tho, have to steal a city, while building up units from the city given to you and place your generals there and send them towards Carthage. Bribe Aetolian league and declare war against Macedonia when they enter war. Your alkues can beat Macedonia provided you bribe Odrysia so they get delayed |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 11, 2019 20:53:12 GMT
Ik, but my boi anthony needs the golden spear or the consuls spectre. Btw, I got 3 countries left in the punic wars conquest. the awful ones. Cessetani, Ambroges, Massalia (the ones hannibal and his brother leroy jenkins at). Any tips for an easy win? I don't remember an easy win, only "thank God it's over" win . At least it's not the Odrysian kingdom. The standard "beating the closest enemy" works. Use all your generals to make your suffering end quicker . Ignore Hannibal and just go for the cities. Send a contingent force towards Carthage with Antony and Pompey/Crassus/both. Massalia scks tho, have to steal a city, while building up units from the city given to you and place your generals there and send them towards Carthage. Bribe Aetolian league and declare war against Macedonia when they enter war. Your alkues can beat Macedonia provided you bribe Odrysia so they get delayed So bribe odrysia and aetolian league, declare war on macedonia when aetolian league joins, if your allies can beat macedonia, i don’t think that there is any reason to give the scumbag Scordisci tribe any bribes. I don’t think it will be possible anyway due to having to also spawn units in every city to hold it. I have yet to see the aetolian league beat macedonia so lets hope you are right. |
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. Have you seen him crit against a Cavalry unit? One of the most satisfying moments I've saw is him dropping a 2 stacked light Cavalry from 100-0 just with a crit. He's an executioner basically, and you need him to constantly attack to make sure his talent and besiege procs. Just focus all your orations on him and give him the golden spear/crossbow. He destroys any Cavalry with a lower force than him, even infantry. Doesn't need much investment to be great. Compared to the 2,he has an overall higher output than both. Tested him, liked him, but loaded game and bought tiberius instead. Tiberius ftw. 
