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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2019 6:46:18 GMT
Jevelineers can fight in this way, I think, not sure about cavalry, though. Probably only cataphracts...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 6:53:14 GMT
I don't have Drusus because I already made my commander an Archer, but based on what I observed, he's pretty great. He just lacks Archer commander. If he had it, then we wouldn't be arguing if he's overrated or not. Let's just agree that he's a good first pick for an Archer Gen, and leave it at that.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 24, 2019 6:58:41 GMT
yuanzhong , it is math. It is only 10% difference. As I mentioned in my previous post the problem is that You have to use Huo in this way - around crit attack. While Arminius for instance is even stronger versatile general. They both have no Commander skill, so they are definetely both not in the top league and to be considered as a support gens - to occupy cities, to kill weaker units, to scout etc. And high crit rate for a support general? I doubt it is of great importance. Yes, I know about 10%. But in actual, it's not 10% more. If just 10%, I don't try to praise Huo like this. He crits at least 2/3 the number of attack. If the scout with high crit rate, he can 1 hit KO weak unit and you can save your strong punches for other target. Light cavalry (triple legion) can easily deal more than 200 damage with crit and blow away single infantry legion
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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2019 6:59:27 GMT
I don't have Drusus because I already made my commander an Archer, but based on what I observed, he's pretty great. He just lacks Archer commander. If he had it, then we wouldn't be arguing if he's overrated or not. Let's just agree that he's a good first pick for an Archer Gen, and leave it at that. In fact, andrei mentioned Drusus in relation to Huo. So it is still Huo vs. Arminius discussion
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Post by opinionmaker on Jul 24, 2019 7:04:31 GMT
opinionmaker, archers need to positioned well in order to be maximized well. Hard to calculate at times if they'll survive or not. I've had my Archer commander with 4 legions stacked on him and he just disappeared after a turn. They definitely need infantry and cavalry support to be used well Yes. I’m not saying otherwise, just that you have to be vulnerable to at least a unit in order to use the archers, again unless you are using the archer as a mop-up unit or you get lucky with archer commander. Thats all I meant, by no means am I saying archers are standalone units in a battle or that counterattack is a godly skill, just that counterattack is not as bad as some make it out to be
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Post by andrei on Jul 24, 2019 7:11:10 GMT
yuanzhong , it is math. It is only 10% difference. As I mentioned in my previous post the problem is that You have to use Huo in this way - around crit attack. While Arminius for instance is even stronger versatile general. They both have no Commander skill, so they are definetely both not in the top league and to be considered as a support gens - to occupy cities, to kill weaker units, to scout etc. And high crit rate for a support general? I doubt it is of great importance. Yes, I know about 10%. But in actual, it's not 10% more. If just 10%, I don't try to praise Huo like this. He crits at least 2/3 the number of attack. If the scout with high crit rate, he can 1 hit KO weak unit and you can save your strong punches for other target. Light cavalry (triple legion) can easily deal more than 200 damage with crit and blow away single infantry legion You don't need to waste Your punches for units not in cities anyway Just ignore them and You are good. It is the best strategy in latest ET games And Your reason that it is 2/3 - sorry, I can't accept it. It is Your subjective opinion. It would be 66%, not 45% in this case. Let's base our discussion on something confirmed and official rarher than something subjective.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 7:40:33 GMT
I don't have Drusus because I already made my commander an Archer, but based on what I observed, he's pretty great. He just lacks Archer commander. If he had it, then we wouldn't be arguing if he's overrated or not. Let's just agree that he's a good first pick for an Archer Gen, and leave it at that. In fact, andrei mentioned Drusus in relation to Huo. So it is still Huo vs. Arminius discussion More like is Huo great or just good
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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2019 7:50:24 GMT
In fact, andrei mentioned Drusus in relation to Huo. So it is still Huo vs. Arminius discussion More like is Huo great or just good We can be good on our own, but great only in comparison to others
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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2019 8:07:56 GMT
When we speak about critical damage no-one is better than Orodes, though
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Post by Sun liren on Jul 24, 2019 9:11:16 GMT
When we speak about critical damage no-one is better than Orodes, though sadly he have destroy and only max 6 cavalry. Only crit can't save him from been abandoned
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 9:36:04 GMT
stoic, what is your current general line-up
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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2019 9:46:28 GMT
stoic, what is your current general line-up The same as it was before : Commander - Pacorus - Pompey - Drusus - Mithridates - Labienus. After buying Labienus I invested all my funds into my Commander only. After an update I will decide what to do next...
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Post by Sun liren on Jul 24, 2019 9:50:52 GMT
Your commander is cavalry right? Since you only our 98's boy in your team
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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2019 9:58:53 GMT
When we speak about critical damage no-one is better than Orodes, though sadly he have destroy and only max 6 cavalry. Only crit can't save him from been abandoned That's the point! Critical damage is good but not everything, neither is the speed (Hi there, worshipers of Antony ). But I still can't say what is the most important thing for a cavalry general. Perhaps, I'll wait for new upgrades in Stables before I'll make a decision. I like so far only 3 cavalry generals - my own Commander, Hannibal (I will miss you, boy ) and Pacorus (man, his price is below 100 medals). What to do next with my cavalry - it is a piece of a puzzle I still can't solve...
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Post by andrei on Jul 24, 2019 10:03:39 GMT
sadly he have destroy and only max 6 cavalry. Only crit can't save him from been abandoned That's the point! Critical damage is good but not everything, neither is the speed (Hi there, worshipers of Antony ). But I still can't say what is the most important thing for a cavalry general. Perhaps, I'll wait for new upgrades in Stables before I'll make a decision. I like so far only 3 cavalry generals - my own Commander, Hannibal (I will miss you, boy ) and Pacorus (man, his price is below 100 medals). What to do next with my cavalry - it is a piece of a puzzle I still can't solve... The problem is that the upcoming update is not the last one. I mean we still do not know what will be the level cap of the tech-upgrades. It gives no possibility to plan You team properly. We'll have the possibility to reset the upgrades, but for the players using minimum quantity of generals it doesn't solve the planning problem. IAP are again in advantageous position here
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