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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 10:14:03 GMT
I claim that Napoleon is the greatest (call it Napoleonic addiction or whatever).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 10:41:02 GMT
Well I think cuz he ended up in Saint Helena and being poisoned there to death. And his conquest for conquering Russia ended in an disaster.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 10:44:20 GMT
Well I think cuz he ended up in Saint Helena and being poisoned there to death. And his conquest for conquering Russia ended in an disaster. Well, conquest ONLY IN RUSSIA ended up in disaster. He lost huge army there, but you can't ignore his great victories. Every general has his share of victories and defeats, except in Napoleon's case, the stakes were much higher as he was the emperor
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 10:50:09 GMT
Well I think cuz he ended up in Saint Helena and being poisoned there to death. And his conquest for conquering Russia ended in an disaster. Well, conquest ONLY IN RUSSIA ended up in disaster. He lost huge army there, but you can't ignore his great victories. Every general has his share of victories and defeats, except in Napoleon's case, the stakes were much higher as he was the emperor Even after Russia disaster, Napoleon went on another offensive in Central Europe in 1813, but the brilliant strategy provided by Former Marshal Bernadette helped Coilation contain him and defeat him when they Numerical superiority at Leipzig, even there Coilation avoided a disaster narrowly because of Bluecher's timely arrival on Napoleon's rear.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 10:53:44 GMT
Well, conquest ONLY IN RUSSIA ended up in disaster. He lost huge army there, but you can't ignore his great victories. Every general has his share of victories and defeats, except in Napoleon's case, the stakes were much higher as he was the emperor Even after Russia disaster, Napoleon went on another offensive in Central Europe in 1813, but the brilliant strategy provided by Former Marshal Bernadette helped Coilation contain him and defeat him when they Numerical superiority at Leipzig, even there Coilation avoided a disaster narrowly because of Bluecher's timely arrival on Napoleon's rear. Grouchy screwed it up, army impoverished, no one could do anything. BTW, did Bernadotte defect to coalition?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 10:58:15 GMT
Even after Russia disaster, Napoleon went on another offensive in Central Europe in 1813, but the brilliant strategy provided by Former Marshal Bernadette helped Coilation contain him and defeat him when they Numerical superiority at Leipzig, even there Coilation avoided a disaster narrowly because of Bluecher's timely arrival on Napoleon's rear. Grouchy screwed it up, army impoverished, no one could do anything. BTW, did Bernadotte defect to coalition? He became King of Sweden after being offered it by Swede Politicians, though it was uncertain whether Napoleon will allow or not but he allowed but also said there were better options. Bernadette has told Napoleon that if you want to rethink then you can because when I am made King of Sweden, I will put Sweden's interest first and that is why Napoleon didn't consider him traitor when Sweden joined the sixth Coilation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 11:02:04 GMT
Well if napoleon was able to make France main power in Europe defeating almost anyone in Europe I would say he was greatest. But he was sent to st Helena by the English where he had a sad ending and I never neglected his military genius
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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 11:06:17 GMT
Well if napoleon was able to make France main power in Europe defeating almost anyone in Europe I would say he was greatest. But he was sent to st Helena by the English where he had a sad ending I wish I was with him during exile I disagree by saying that, take Alexander for example. He comes from Macedonia and made his empire great. But his empire collapsed soon after his death. Still his regarded as very great.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 11:06:32 GMT
Even after Russia disaster, Napoleon went on another offensive in Central Europe in 1813, but the brilliant strategy provided by Former Marshal Bernadette helped Coilation contain him and defeat him when they Numerical superiority at Leipzig, even there Coilation avoided a disaster narrowly because of Bluecher's timely arrival on Napoleon's rear. Grouchy screwed it up, army impoverished, no one could do anything. BTW, did Bernadotte defect to coalition? Bernadette's strategy was don't attack Napoleon's army as Kutuzov has said if we fight against the Emperor we should be prepared fir defeat, hence we should focus on his lieutenants. The Coilation divided its armies and put them in different directions which is a treat to Napoleon but wherever Napoleon went the coilation army there retreated and other Coilation armies attacked at his original base (Dresden), though first time Davout held out till Napolean arrived and then routed the Austrians, later this continously frustrated him.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 11:09:07 GMT
Grouchy screwed it up, army impoverished, no one could do anything. BTW, did Bernadotte defect to coalition? Bernadette's strategy was don't attack Napoleon's army as Kutuzov has said if we fight against the Emperor we should be prepared fir defeat, hence we should focus on his lieutenants. The Coilation divided its armies and put them in different directions which is a treat to Napoleon but wherever Napoleon went the coilation army there retreated and other Coilation armies attacked at his original base (Dresden), though first time Davout held out till Napolean arrived and then routed the Austrians, later this continously frustrated him. Ah yes. I knew this tactic. That shows his military genius as no one wants to fight him
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 11:10:17 GMT
I never neglected Napoleons military genius. Alexander was 333 bc in an ancient world and he took much much land from Persia so he was great.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 11:11:20 GMT
Bernadette's strategy was don't attack Napoleon's army as Kutuzov has said if we fight against the Emperor we should be prepared fir defeat, hence we should focus on his lieutenants. The Coilation divided its armies and put them in different directions which is a treat to Napoleon but wherever Napoleon went the coilation army there retreated and other Coilation armies attacked at his original base (Dresden), though first time Davout held out till Napolean arrived and then routed the Austrians, later this continously frustrated him. Ah yes. I knew this tactic. That shows his military genius as no one wants to fight him Bernadette wasn't a fan of Napoleon, he was jealous of him getting away with all glory during Revolutionary era. It was a strategy, not tactic.
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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 11:13:25 GMT
I never neglected Napoleons military genius. Alexander was 333 bc in an ancient world and he took much much land from Persia so he was great. He is hard to neglect. But, why doesn't his name come up in one of the greatest instantly, like immediately. That's my point. And many people over here beileve Napoleon isn't the greatest, especially STILETT0
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 11:14:04 GMT
One of my favourite quotes in history is "You are asking about my loyalty towards France?, your majesty when I was fighting for France, your family and you were sipping tea in British Gardens"
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Post by John Marston on Apr 29, 2021 11:14:15 GMT
Ah yes. I knew this tactic. That shows his military genius as no one wants to fight him Bernadette wasn't a fan of Napoleon, he was jealous of him getting away with all glory during Revolutionary era. It was a strategy, not tactic. He might not be Napoleon's fan, but he was a very good general.
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