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Post by randomperson on Jul 18, 2021 20:01:18 GMT
Tbh the dragon tripod looks like a sink on 4 legs. Still, it's one of the most OP items in the game-it's a laurel crown with 15hp per round of healing. Now just give it to pacorus lol.  Well, yes, Pacorus is the last man on earth who will benefit from wearing it  , but if I remember correctly there is such a thing in one of the conquests... Yes, Parthia sometimes spawns Pacorus with a gold ring. Not sure who coded that lol. |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jul 19, 2021 19:01:52 GMT
  Try this alternate history in retreat of romans. Crassus made it to Rome from Parthia like a hero, saved by his comrades in the last moment from the brink of desreuction😀 |
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Post by stoic on Jul 19, 2021 19:45:07 GMT
Try this alternate history in retreat of romans. Crassus made it to Rome from Parthia like a hero, saved by his comrades in the last moment from the brink of desreuction😀 Yeah, it is an old trick discovered by andrei. The key is to kill Surena as soon as possible... |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jul 20, 2021 4:50:08 GMT
Nice one. I remember it i Just forgot that mission could be done on turn 2. Fantastic game, fell in love with it on first sight.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 20, 2021 5:32:49 GMT
Nice one. I remember it i Just forgot that mission could be done on turn 2. Fantastic game, fell in love with it on first sight. May be not turn 2, with current update, we can do it on 1st turn 🤣  |
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jul 20, 2021 18:37:25 GMT
Hehe nice😀
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Post by randomperson on Jul 20, 2021 19:24:43 GMT
If I'd known that killing Surena would give me control over the whole Roman army perfect clearing this would've been much easier...
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 27, 2021 18:39:42 GMT
Why not Sertorius? He is simply a slower but stronger and tougher Crassus. The only problem I can see is Legatus, but you yourself have made numerous arguments as to why that is forgivable. Give him Shield of Thunder (easy to get) and Fasces of Power, or even just Scale Armor and he takes almost no damage. I respect Sertorius as a hero of late Roman Republic, but I simply can't hire a general with a completely useless skill. It is a shame that they weakened so many interesting generals by giving them one trash skill. Besides, I was looking for a particular player, if we may say so, on a particular position in my team. I needed a general who is very good at capturing heavily defended cities. And no-one is as good in this respect as Crassus. Umm, you use Drusus and Commmius, both who have 3 skills, and two of Drusus's skills are terrible, and arguably one of Commius's. Sertorius's other skills are top-tier. IMO, Intercept + Formation + Sentry + 100 medals > Inf Tactics + March + General + Tunnel. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 28, 2021 12:33:08 GMT
I respect Sertorius as a hero of late Roman Republic, but I simply can't hire a general with a completely useless skill. It is a shame that they weakened so many interesting generals by giving them one trash skill. Besides, I was looking for a particular player, if we may say so, on a particular position in my team. I needed a general who is very good at capturing heavily defended cities. And no-one is as good in this respect as Crassus. Umm, you use Drusus and Commmius, both who have 3 skills, and two of Drusus's skills are terrible, and arguably one of Commius's. Sertorius's other skills are top-tier. IMO, Intercept + Formation + Sentry + 100 medals > Inf Tactics + March + General + Tunnel. There are three possible objections: 1. Drusus and Commius always have high moral and therefore their damage is always high and reliable. The factor of the high moral is arguably the most important factor in the game. At least I evaluate it as such. 2. We have a whole bunch of good Infantry generals in the game for more or less same price. So, we are choosing between them. In this situation I think Sertorius with one useless skill is not in a favorable position. 3.As I said, I already have an Infantry general with a universal set of skills, namely Pompey. Then my purpose was to hire a narrow specialist, who is able to take fortified cities. I need him both for campaigns and speed runs. Finally, I think you overestimate the talant of Sertorius. I remember it was bugged, because Labienus has it too, and I tested it extensively. The difference between damage received with and without talent activated was not significant. I don't know, probably they fixed it, but further tests are needed. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 28, 2021 12:42:46 GMT
Umm, you use Drusus and Commmius, both who have 3 skills, and two of Drusus's skills are terrible, and arguably one of Commius's. Sertorius's other skills are top-tier. IMO, Intercept + Formation + Sentry + 100 medals > Inf Tactics + March + General + Tunnel. There are three possible objections: 1. Drusus and Commius always have high moral and therefore their damage is always high and reliable. The factor of the high moral is arguably the most important factor in the game. At least I evaluate it as such. 2. We have a whole bunch of good Infantry generals in the game for more or less same price. So, we are choosing between them. In this situation I think Sertorius with one useless skill is not in a favorable position. 3.As I said, I already have an Infantry general with a universal set of skills, namely Pompey. Then my purpose was to hire a narrow specialist, who is able to take fortified cities. I need him both for campaigns and speed runs. Finally, I think you overestimate the talant of Sertorius. I remember it was bugged, because Labienus has it too, and I tested it extensively. The difference between damage received with and without talent activated was not significant. I don't know, probably they fixed it, but further tests are needed. You don't need to test Sertorius talent, it is what it was, no change 😅. About 5 - 10 damage decrease when talent active. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 28, 2021 12:44:36 GMT
Umm, you use Drusus and Commmius, both who have 3 skills, and two of Drusus's skills are terrible, and arguably one of Commius's. Sertorius's other skills are top-tier. IMO, Intercept + Formation + Sentry + 100 medals > Inf Tactics + March + General + Tunnel. There are three possible objections: 1. Drusus and Commius always have high moral and therefore their damage is always high and reliable. The factor of the high moral is arguably the most important factor in the game. At least I evaluate it as such. 2. We have a whole bunch of good Infantry generals in the game for more or less same price. So, we are choosing between them. In this situation I think Sertorius with one useless skill is not in a favorable position. 3.As I said, I already have an Infantry general with a universal set of skills, namely Pompey. Then my purpose was to hire a narrow specialist, who is able to take fortified cities. I need him both for campaigns and speed runs. Finally, I think you overestimate the talant of Sertorius. I remember it was bugged, because Labienus has it too, and I tested it extensively. The difference between damage received with and without talent activated was not significant. I don't know, probably they fixed it, but further tests are needed. Sentry Takes of an additional 10% damage when not paired with any equipment on a legionnaire. I think you overestimate Inspire. In the case of Drusus, it's the only thing going for him. It can just as easily be replaced with a gold ring, Laurel Crown, or Dragon Tripod. That being said, it is still the best talent in the game, just it doesn't make or break a general. Commius I like, but he is much worse than the other Cav gens, with the inclusion of Wei. In addition, why do you need Crassus with him? Your second point is correct, but I see Sertorius as the Second best infantry, with strong capabilities in all fields. He is like Crassus, but with battle ability. Thirdly, Crassus, yes, is a speedrun gen. I'll give you that. I don't understand why you would want a specialist, though, when Sertorius can do almost the same thing for fewer medals, as well as being better overall. Moreover, as I said, you have Commius, another, better, city cracker, considering he has The 60% Attack again chance. Heck, Scipio and even the terrible Antony are better for city Cracking, because they are cavalry. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 28, 2021 13:13:18 GMT
There are three possible objections: 1. Drusus and Commius always have high moral and therefore their damage is always high and reliable. The factor of the high moral is arguably the most important factor in the game. At least I evaluate it as such. 2. We have a whole bunch of good Infantry generals in the game for more or less same price. So, we are choosing between them. In this situation I think Sertorius with one useless skill is not in a favorable position. 3.As I said, I already have an Infantry general with a universal set of skills, namely Pompey. Then my purpose was to hire a narrow specialist, who is able to take fortified cities. I need him both for campaigns and speed runs. Finally, I think you overestimate the talant of Sertorius. I remember it was bugged, because Labienus has it too, and I tested it extensively. The difference between damage received with and without talent activated was not significant. I don't know, probably they fixed it, but further tests are needed. Sentry Takes of an additional 10% damage when not paired with any equipment on a legionnaire. I think you overestimate Inspire. In the case of Drusus, it's the only thing going for him. It can just as easily be replaced with a gold ring, Laurel Crown, or Dragon Tripod. That being said, it is still the best talent in the game, just it doesn't make or break a general. Commius I like, but he is much worse than the other Cav gens, with the inclusion of Wei. In addition, why do you need Crassus with him? Your second point is correct, but I see Sertorius as the Second best infantry, with strong capabilities in all fields. He is like Crassus, but with battle ability. Thirdly, Crassus, yes, is a speedrun gen. I'll give you that. I don't understand why you would want a specialist, though, when Sertorius can do almost the same thing for fewer medals, as well as being better overall. Moreover, as I said, you have Commius, another, better, city cracker, considering he has The 60% Attack again chance. Heck, Scipio and even the terrible Antony are better for city Cracking, because they are cavalry. You lose the one and only item /artifact slot for the "easily be replaced" you said, while you can equip damage/movement increase or recover item / artifact instead. And you can keep those precious item / artifact for another (goldring isn't that good, you can't keep high morale all time with it when your luck is bad). How can Scipio is better city cracker than Crassus? Slower, lower damage to city. 60% to attack again only work when you kill a stack of unit and it's not easy when the unit is in city. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 28, 2021 13:45:31 GMT
There are three possible objections: 1. Drusus and Commius always have high moral and therefore their damage is always high and reliable. The factor of the high moral is arguably the most important factor in the game. At least I evaluate it as such. 2. We have a whole bunch of good Infantry generals in the game for more or less same price. So, we are choosing between them. In this situation I think Sertorius with one useless skill is not in a favorable position. 3.As I said, I already have an Infantry general with a universal set of skills, namely Pompey. Then my purpose was to hire a narrow specialist, who is able to take fortified cities. I need him both for campaigns and speed runs. Finally, I think you overestimate the talant of Sertorius. I remember it was bugged, because Labienus has it too, and I tested it extensively. The difference between damage received with and without talent activated was not significant. I don't know, probably they fixed it, but further tests are needed. Sentry Takes of an additional 10% damage when not paired with any equipment on a legionnaire. I think you overestimate Inspire. In the case of Drusus, it's the only thing going for him. It can just as easily be replaced with a gold ring, Laurel Crown, or Dragon Tripod. That being said, it is still the best talent in the game, just it doesn't make or break a general. Commius I like, but he is much worse than the other Cav gens, with the inclusion of Wei. In addition, why do you need Crassus with him? Your second point is correct, but I see Sertorius as the Second best infantry, with strong capabilities in all fields. He is like Crassus, but with battle ability. Thirdly, Crassus, yes, is a speedrun gen. I'll give you that. I don't understand why you would want a specialist, though, when Sertorius can do almost the same thing for fewer medals, as well as being better overall. Moreover, as I said, you have Commius, another, better, city cracker, considering he has The 60% Attack again chance. Heck, Scipio and even the terrible Antony are better for city Cracking, because they are cavalry. Rings are useless, since they don't prevent the the drop of moral every time a general lost a unit, is in unfavorable position or surrounded, or there is a script for moral decrease. So,there are only two reliable items - crown and tripod. And there is always a space left behind: 1. If we give a crown to someone without high moral, that means we can't give to him anything else. While just by giving a purchased for coins Pompeii glaudius to Commius we can increase his attack by 15 points. 2. As yuanzhong said, we can always give these precious items to someone else, increasing thus the number of happy generals. And happy generals win the day  |
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Post by stoic on Jul 28, 2021 13:55:33 GMT
There are three possible objections: 1. Drusus and Commius always have high moral and therefore their damage is always high and reliable. The factor of the high moral is arguably the most important factor in the game. At least I evaluate it as such. 2. We have a whole bunch of good Infantry generals in the game for more or less same price. So, we are choosing between them. In this situation I think Sertorius with one useless skill is not in a favorable position. 3.As I said, I already have an Infantry general with a universal set of skills, namely Pompey. Then my purpose was to hire a narrow specialist, who is able to take fortified cities. I need him both for campaigns and speed runs. Finally, I think you overestimate the talant of Sertorius. I remember it was bugged, because Labienus has it too, and I tested it extensively. The difference between damage received with and without talent activated was not significant. I don't know, probably they fixed it, but further tests are needed. Sentry Takes of an additional 10% damage when not paired with any equipment on a legionnaire. I think you overestimate Inspire. In the case of Drusus, it's the only thing going for him. It can just as easily be replaced with a gold ring, Laurel Crown, or Dragon Tripod. That being said, it is still the best talent in the game, just it doesn't make or break a general. Just by giving a crossbow to Drusus we can increase his crit rate up to 35/40 percent. It is insane. It is more than enough to like him. Moreover generals with high moral have an increased chance that their attack will be critical. Commius doesn't have a single ability to increase his crit rate, yet 2 or 3 out of his 10 attacks are critical. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 28, 2021 13:56:07 GMT
Sentry Takes of an additional 10% damage when not paired with any equipment on a legionnaire. I think you overestimate Inspire. In the case of Drusus, it's the only thing going for him. It can just as easily be replaced with a gold ring, Laurel Crown, or Dragon Tripod. That being said, it is still the best talent in the game, just it doesn't make or break a general. Commius I like, but he is much worse than the other Cav gens, with the inclusion of Wei. In addition, why do you need Crassus with him? Your second point is correct, but I see Sertorius as the Second best infantry, with strong capabilities in all fields. He is like Crassus, but with battle ability. Thirdly, Crassus, yes, is a speedrun gen. I'll give you that. I don't understand why you would want a specialist, though, when Sertorius can do almost the same thing for fewer medals, as well as being better overall. Moreover, as I said, you have Commius, another, better, city cracker, considering he has The 60% Attack again chance. Heck, Scipio and even the terrible Antony are better for city Cracking, because they are cavalry. Rings are useless, since they don't prevent the the drop of moral every time a general lost a unit, is in unfavorable position or surrounded, or there is a script for moral decrease. So,there are only two reliable items - crown and tripod. And there is always a space left behind: 1. If we give a crown to someone without high moral, that means we can't give to him anything else. While just by giving a purchased for coins Pompeii glaudius to Commius we can increase his attack by 15 points. 2. As yuanzhong said, we can always give these precious items to someone else, increasing thus the number of happy generals. And happy generals win the day 1. Yes, but They certainly help my generals. A Dolabella with a gold ring is almost better than Drusus. 2. That's true, but I would prefer a talent to a Pompeii Gladius. 3. There are 11 morale Items. I'm sure we have enough. |
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, but if I remember correctly there is such a thing in one of the conquests...
