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Post by Thortilla on Jul 27, 2021 3:12:06 GMT
put Rundstedt in the water and lost to Cunningham in a Cruiser.
I put him in a unit with 1 health bar and he lost to Patton: /
He can beat Voronov in heavy artillery if he has 5 health bars. and is worth 916: / Dimitrescu is only worth 139 and also defeats Voronov under the same conditions.
In short this man sucks
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Post by 曹操 on Jul 27, 2021 4:14:08 GMT
put Rundstedt in the water and lost to Cunningham in a Cruiser. I put him in a unit with 1 health bar and he lost to Patton: / He can beat Voronov in heavy artillery if he has 5 health bars. and is worth 916: / Dimitrescu is only worth 139 and also defeats Voronov under the same conditions. In short this man sucks I'll try it later. Rundstedt on Carrier against Cunningham in a cruiser
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Post by Lucklife on Jul 27, 2021 14:25:33 GMT
Like, how am I losing to a submarine and a destroyer with lower tech level than me.
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Post by Port on Jul 27, 2021 18:20:40 GMT
Like, how am I losing to a submarine and a destroyer with lower tech level than me. Rundstdet isn’t a navy general. He has no navy stars.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 27, 2021 21:20:08 GMT
Like, how am I losing to a submarine and a destroyer with lower tech level than me. Rundstdet isn’t a navy general. He has no navy stars. It's a dig at imkhoa for saying sll of these gens are terrible.
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Post by greatdodger on Jul 27, 2021 21:25:54 GMT
Rundstdet isn’t a navy general. He has no navy stars. It's a dig at imkhoa for saying sll of these gens are terrible. Tbf tho, I did try him in the 1941 Eastern Front army group scenario and he wasn’t that brilliant IMO. Maybe it’s because I’m not using infantry right, but he doesn’t really do that much damage
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 27, 2021 21:29:18 GMT
It's a dig at imkhoa for saying sll of these gens are terrible. Tbf tho, I did try him in the 1941 Eastern Front army group scenario and he wasn’t that brilliant IMO. Maybe it’s because I’m not using infantry right, but he doesn’t really do that much damage He is the strongest Axis infantry and possibly HT.
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Post by 曹操 on Jul 27, 2021 23:24:45 GMT
. Rundstedt on Carrier against Cunningham in a cruiser Anyone know a mission where cunningham on a cruiser?
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Post by randomperson on Jul 28, 2021 0:38:14 GMT
. Rundstedt on Carrier against Cunningham in a cruiser Anyone know a mission where cunningham on a cruiser? Err 1939 balkans campaign has cunningham on a carrier, but I actually can't find an instance of him on a cruiser.
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Post by Thortilla on Jul 28, 2021 2:03:49 GMT
. Rundstedt on Carrier against Cunningham in a cruiser Anyone know a mission where cunningham on a cruiser? there is no Cunningham on a Cruiser. don't burn your head
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jul 28, 2021 13:22:31 GMT
Tbf tho, I did try him in the 1941 Eastern Front army group scenario and he wasn’t that brilliant IMO. Maybe it’s because I’m not using infantry right, but he doesn’t really do that much damage He is the strongest Axis infantry and possibly HT. Strongest Axis Infantry and HT respectively are Yamashita and Rommel. Period.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 28, 2021 13:49:01 GMT
He is the strongest Axis infantry and possibly HT. Strongest Axis Infantry and HT respectively are Yamashita and Rommel. Period. Rommel okay, but Yamashita? Seriously? Bayonet Charge is inferior to IL, Guerilla < FS, and Samurai < Plunder. In addition, Rundstedt's skill synergy is off the charts.
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jul 28, 2021 13:57:20 GMT
Strongest Axis Infantry and HT respectively are Yamashita and Rommel. Period. Rommel okay, but Yamashita? Seriously? Bayonet Charge is inferior to IL, Guerilla < FS, and Samurai < Plunder. In addition, Rundstedt's skill synergy is off the charts. Hah! Bayonet has reliable damage for you cautious people, and statistically, Guerilla will save more HP than FS. Samurai is much better than Plunder as Plunder is just 12% (IIRC) of a single stack. More mobility is important for infantry as Wiking is pretty slow.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 28, 2021 14:08:04 GMT
Rommel okay, but Yamashita? Seriously? Bayonet Charge is inferior to IL, Guerilla < FS, and Samurai < Plunder. In addition, Rundstedt's skill synergy is off the charts. Hah! Bayonet has reliable damage for you cautious people, and statistically, Guerilla will save more HP than FS. Samurai is much better than Plunder as Plunder is just 12% (IIRC) of a single stack. More mobility is important for infantry as Wiking is pretty slow. On Bayonet: In the long run, as you point out in Guerilla, IL does more damage. Damage is not something in which I care about consistency. If I desperately need High damage, I can s/l for a crit. Survival needs consistency. I would much rather Attack Monty with FS than Guerilla. If you say that you can s/l with Guerilla, you'd be right. However, instances in which you need more survivability are much more than those of which you need output. Plunder is still 13 HP every time you kill a stack on Infantry, and like 50 on an HT. That, coupled with attacking multiple times, and taking only 60% counters, is great. On the last note, I would have agreed with you before SF promotion was a thing, but now, it's trivial.
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Post by randomperson on Jul 28, 2021 20:24:22 GMT
Hah! Bayonet has reliable damage for you cautious people, and statistically, Guerilla will save more HP than FS. Samurai is much better than Plunder as Plunder is just 12% (IIRC) of a single stack. More mobility is important for infantry as Wiking is pretty slow. On Bayonet: In the long run, as you point out in Guerilla, IL does more damage. Damage is not something in which I care about consistency. If I desperately need High damage, I can s/l for a crit. Survival needs consistency. I would much rather Attack Monty with FS than Guerilla. If you say that you can s/l with Guerilla, you'd be right. However, instances in which you need more survivability are much more than those of which you need output. Plunder is still 13 HP every time you kill a stack on Infantry, and like 50 on an HT. That, coupled with attacking multiple times, and taking only 60% counters, is great. On the last note, I would have agreed with you before SF promotion was a thing, but now, it's trivial. It comes down to whether you want more damage reliably or survivability reliably. I think that Samurai is useless as I have never seen my Yamashita get anywhere close to low morale (he's always killing things) while 12% Plunder isn't great. I think it's kinda ironic how Rundstedt is underestimating Rundstedt while defending Rundstedt because Plunder is more than 13 HP usually. Because of promotions, you're going to have at least 30% more hp (although likely 60% more hp) so it is actually better than 13 HP per kill. Nevertheless, it's 8.33 kills to save 10 gold so it's like economics but much worse. All in all, I think that if it were not for movement Rundstedt would beat out Yamashita, but I went for Yamashita because of his price and 3 extra movement. Promotion does give +2, but I would rather stack +2+3=+5 with Yamashita.
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