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Post by stoic on Aug 6, 2021 6:06:23 GMT
"Never say never", - so they say it. I said couple of times already: "enough is enough"... I replayed EW5 so many times that I can hardly recall all my runs in details. Yet, ET surprised me once more and I feel in my gut that the new campaign mode will be a real challenge. Besides, I didn't beat all Asgard missions on my previous run, so I have a couple of debts to pay. Let's get ready to rumble...
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Post by stoic on Aug 6, 2021 6:24:51 GMT
There is an obvious path, btw, for experienced players as we discussed it with Iron Duke. No-one has completed the game with awakened generals yet, or, at least, they haven't played an important part in it. So, my idea this time is too use as many of them as first team players as often as possible. Perhaps too many "as" in one short sentence, but I hope you got the picture  Unfortunately, we don't have any worthy Infantry general amongst awakened ones, so I plan to do it with 3 flexible lines: Cavalry; Archers; Artillery. My roster will be (including bench players): Cavalry: Syriothai, Attila, Hannibal, Blucher. Archers: Pachacuti, Mulan, Li, Nelson, Katherine, Mocte. Artillery: LiShimin, Khalid, Bismarck. I will need a couple more to complete my 16 players team for arena, but most likely they will be cheap gray or blue generals. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 6, 2021 6:58:39 GMT
I see we have a new slot for equipment (top right corner of the portrait). Am I right? And how does it work?  |
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Post by gczx on Aug 6, 2021 7:16:28 GMT
I see we have a new slot for equipment (top right corner of the portrait). Am I right? And how does it work? as for the new slot, I saw it in Iron Duke's video, it's for the new badges you get from beating the new campagin
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 6, 2021 7:56:22 GMT
"Never say never", - so they say it. I said couple of times already: "enough is enough"... I replayed EW5 so many times that I can hardly recall all my runs in details. Yet, ET surprised me once more and I feel in my gut that the new campaign mode will be a real challenge. Besides, I didn't beat all Asgard missions on my previous run, so I have a couple of debts to pay. Let's get ready to rumble... |
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 6, 2021 8:00:31 GMT
I see we have a new slot for equipment (top right corner of the portrait). Am I right? And how does it work? I posted about it hereQuite tough to collect though as you get them for completing hard mode in each age and the Ragnarok conquests. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 6, 2021 9:04:01 GMT
Indeed, and in hard mode, you have to face off with additional enemies of Greek or Norse origins who are compulsory targets to take out. However, you do get to deploy numerous Princesses, perhaps up to six. In the same mode, there are "cities" which you have to build. Afterwards, you'll be besieged by enemies and you'll have to survive. These enemies contain creatures of Legend and enemy gens may have golden equipment sets. As for your team, getting Awakened Pachacuti takes too long and a lot of effort. My endgame team of 8 requires and additional eight endgame gens to attempt to beat Legion mode players in the Arena. Grinding the normal mode might be a more feasible option, but getting to a high Tier quickly is impossible. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 6, 2021 9:28:24 GMT
Indeed, and in hard mode, you have to face off with additional enemies of Greek or Norse origins who are compulsory targets to take out. However, you do get to deploy numerous Princesses, perhaps up to six. In the same mode, there are "cities" which you have to build. Afterwards, you'll be besieged by enemies and you'll have to survive. These enemies contain creatures of Legend and enemy gens may have golden equipment sets. As for your team, getting Awakened Pachacuti takes too long and a lot of effort. My endgame team of 8 requires and additional eight endgame gens to attempt to beat Legion mode players in the Arena. Grinding the normal mode might be a more feasible option, but getting to a high Tier quickly is impossible. The more interesting it will be to try  |
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Post by Iron Duke on Aug 6, 2021 12:53:52 GMT
There is an obvious path, btw, for experienced players as we discussed it with Iron Duke . No-one has completed the game with awakened generals yet, or, at least, they haven't played an important part in it. So, my idea this time is too use as many of them as first team players as often as possible. Perhaps too many "as" in one short sentence, but I hope you got the picture Unfortunately, we don't have any worthy Infantry general amongst awakened ones, so I plan to do it with 3 flexible lines: Cavalry; Archers; Artillery. My roster will be (including bench players): Cavalry: Syriothai, Attila, Hannibal, Blucher. Archers: Pachacuti, Mulan, Li, Nelson, Katherine, Mocte. Artillery: LiShimin, Khalid, Bismarck. I will need a couple more to complete my 16 players team for arena, but most likely they will be cheap gray or blue generals. This is something I was thinking about yesterday actually, we (by which I mostly mean "I") need to give more consideration to the bench players, not only for the Arena but there are also several missions in hard mode so far where we can field more than 8 generals, and of course they will come in handy for the dreaded Greek Trial III too. So I think we'll still need a first VIII of elites for the more familiar campaigns, but we'll also need a higher quality squad of reserves than in previous runs. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 6, 2021 14:51:47 GMT
There is an obvious path, btw, for experienced players as we discussed it with Iron Duke . No-one has completed the game with awakened generals yet, or, at least, they haven't played an important part in it. So, my idea this time is too use as many of them as first team players as often as possible. Perhaps too many "as" in one short sentence, but I hope you got the picture Unfortunately, we don't have any worthy Infantry general amongst awakened ones, so I plan to do it with 3 flexible lines: Cavalry; Archers; Artillery. My roster will be (including bench players): Cavalry: Syriothai, Attila, Hannibal, Blucher. Archers: Pachacuti, Mulan, Li, Nelson, Katherine, Mocte. Artillery: LiShimin, Khalid, Bismarck. I will need a couple more to complete my 16 players team for arena, but most likely they will be cheap gray or blue generals. This is something I was thinking about yesterday actually, we (by which I mostly mean "I") need to give more consideration to the bench players, not only for the Arena but there are also several missions in hard mode so far where we can field more than 8 generals, and of course they will come in handy for the dreaded Greek Trial III too. So I think we'll still need a first VIII of elites for the more familiar campaigns, but we'll also need a higher quality squad of reserves than in previous runs. I see this paradigm shift in what we call a "team" since those Trials and arena battles were released. It is definitely not enough nowadays just to say: "my 8 generals will be this and that...". So, we (by which I mostly mean "we"  ) have to pay attention to this issue. I already have several generals in mind including Belisarius, for example. I don't want to pay a fortune for bench players, but, on the other hand, they should be reliable and useful. Quite tricky, tbh... |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 6, 2021 15:01:22 GMT
Lincoln is a cheap anti-cav unit I use. Then, came Awakened Mulan, Awakened Beowulf, Cleopatra, Jhansi, 5* Awakened Suriyothai, Yoshitsune and 5* Alexander.
Catherine and 5* Moctezuma were reserves or specialists that also played a major role.
Beowulf and Lincoln have their roles and were deployed in Legion mode based on circumstance while Yoshitsune was eventually dropped.
Right now, I'm looking at Joan for her arty resistance skill as Koxinga is a common arty gen used.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 6, 2021 15:35:51 GMT
This is something I was thinking about yesterday actually, we (by which I mostly mean "I") need to give more consideration to the bench players, not only for the Arena but there are also several missions in hard mode so far where we can field more than 8 generals, and of course they will come in handy for the dreaded Greek Trial III too. So I think we'll still need a first VIII of elites for the more familiar campaigns, but we'll also need a higher quality squad of reserves than in previous runs. I see this paradigm shift in what we call a "team" since those Trials and arena battles were released. It is definitely not enough nowadays just to say: "my 8 generals will be this and that...". So, we (by which I mostly mean "we" ) have to pay attention to this issue. I already have several generals in mind including Belisarius, for example. I don't want to pay a fortune for bench players, but, on the other hand, they should be reliable and useful. Quite tricky, tbh... I really recommend giving Joan a chance. She and Petain are now the two favorites as tanker for arena. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 6, 2021 16:05:41 GMT
I see this paradigm shift in what we call a "team" since those Trials and arena battles were released. It is definitely not enough nowadays just to say: "my 8 generals will be this and that...". So, we (by which I mostly mean "we" ) have to pay attention to this issue. I already have several generals in mind including Belisarius, for example. I don't want to pay a fortune for bench players, but, on the other hand, they should be reliable and useful. Quite tricky, tbh... I really recommend giving Joan a chance. She and Petain are now the two favorites as tanker for arena. Bravery and Cover combo is massively OP. That combined with Logistics and Commander, Or Cure and Shelter, is amazing. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 6, 2021 18:01:11 GMT
I see this paradigm shift in what we call a "team" since those Trials and arena battles were released. It is definitely not enough nowadays just to say: "my 8 generals will be this and that...". So, we (by which I mostly mean "we" ) have to pay attention to this issue. I already have several generals in mind including Belisarius, for example. I don't want to pay a fortune for bench players, but, on the other hand, they should be reliable and useful. Quite tricky, tbh... I really recommend giving Joan a chance. She and Petain are now the two favorites as tanker for arena. In fact, it is not out of the question... My thoughts are far from arena now, because it is locked, and I have no idea when we unlock it. But since I will not upgrade Alex and Barbarossa (and this was my usual move at this stage) I need cheap substitutions to play campaigns, since I can't advance with only Attila, Hannibal and Mocte. I am really intrigued by repeating one of my previous experiments. I called it "field hospital" when I used Caesar and Mocte together. It is less efficient in AI-controlled battles, I presume, but it was quite helpful elsewhere. Now Joan can take the place of Caesar. I recall Iron Duke experimented with this setup, but was rather disappointed and replaced Joan eventually. But since it is only a temporary solution it well may work. I will promote Mocte to lvl 5 and upgrade his first two skills anyway, so investments in Joan won't ruin my budget. |
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Post by Voltaire on Aug 6, 2021 18:03:52 GMT
I really recommend giving Joan a chance. She and Petain are now the two favorites as tanker for arena. Bravery and Cover combo is massively OP. That combined with Logistics and Commander, Or Cure and Shelter, is amazing. Yeah, cover is insanely good, but I feel Petain is better as he has Logistics and Commander as well. Both of which are better than cure and shelter. |
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) have to pay attention to this issue. I already have several generals in mind including Belisarius, for example. I don't want to pay a fortune for bench players, but, on the other hand, they should be reliable and useful. Quite tricky, tbh...
