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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 12:15:02 GMT
Any tips for ew5 conquest? I find it really dull, and quite confusing as to the strategy. The tutorial didn't really give any useful hints.
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Post by CharlesMartel on Nov 10, 2021 14:53:47 GMT
Any tips for ew5 conquest? I find it really dull, and quite confusing as to the strategy. The tutorial didn't really give any useful hints. My best advice is to level up your generals about 2 ages beyond the conquest you want to do, then you can use the Auto-battle function and send single generals to stomp their way through all obstacles. It helps to have healing items like the Lucky Crown as well. There is a thread somewhere that actually maps out comprehensive routes for maximum efficiency from Greece, but I can't find it right now On some of your other questions, it's definitely true that in early and mid game you won't be able to get an ideal Cav-Com lineup, and it makes more sense to use whatever powerful generals you get (such as Barbarossa and Alexander) as place-holders while you are building your team. The early and middle campaigns are fairly forgiving, even I was able to beat them eventually. Any endgame generals you get (Attila for certain) are worth upgrading skills as well, and some can be absolutely game-changing, such as Bravery, Leadership and Commander. I think having Archers and Artillery as backup for your front line is pretty crucial, as attack range plays a big role in this game, but they also have their weaknesses so melee fighters are a must as well.
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Post by Iron Duke on Nov 10, 2021 15:43:47 GMT
Any tips for ew5 conquest? I find it really dull, and quite confusing as to the strategy. The tutorial didn't really give any useful hints. My best advice is to level up your generals about 2 ages beyond the conquest you want to do, then you can use the Auto-battle function and send single generals to stomp their way through all obstacles. It helps to have healing items like the Lucky Crown as well. There is a thread somewhere that actually maps out comprehensive routes for maximum efficiency from Greece, but I can't find it right now I concur. The longer you leave them the easier they are, and I always choose to play as the country that gives Literature (while that is still relevant). Plunder and Logistics are the most useful skills in conquest. Also go after the enemy's capital, and the more cities you have compared to them, the more likely they are to surrender rather than move the capital.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Nov 10, 2021 15:51:04 GMT
CavCom it is then? Attila is your star. Accompany him with Asoka and/or Edward. EFC prefers Edward while Baidu prefers Asoka. Suriyothai has an amazing skill set after awakened but at this stage of the game she is a bit squishy. You can add 1 or 2 non-commander cavalry generals, with the top favorites being Saladin and Blucher. You will also need some other units as supporters. There are quite a handful you can choose from, including Nobunaga, Cleopatra, Bismarck, Moctezuma, Mulan, etc. Cavcom as I enjoy mobility, although i'm willing to restart after completing the majority of the game. I might even buy some IAP or items, tho after stoic inspired me, I probably would just play all E. T games at this point as F2P, as I find it more fun beating the game with resources given. Kinda feel ashamed I was once p2w actually, in a strategy game no less. But that's just me, I'm not shaming those who chose the path of the PayPal. That said, I'm curious about archers. They seem to be the safest way to go at it. And are using single coms effective early to mid game? It seems like using strong generals to get over early and mid game is the way to go. Also, thanks for guiding me and giving me advice, I really appreciate it There's nothing to be ashamed about IAP. You bought time with money and IAP keeps easytech alive for new games. Also what's your definition on the stages of the game? Lineups centered around one commander can help you beat most parts (at least the normal campaigns, empire, and conquest). ArchCom has some hard time in early game due to the lack of a reliable commander (Pachacuti becomes good later in game, but not now) but after having Nobunaga life will start to become easier. CavCom will enjoy early game as all commanders become available in the first three eras, but you will almost definitely struggle in discovery. CavCom will also have a hard time in AI controlled battles, which includes arena and defense.
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Post by stoic on Nov 10, 2021 16:14:28 GMT
Any tips for ew5 conquest? I find it really dull, and quite confusing as to the strategy. The tutorial didn't really give any useful hints. Btw, don't forget to deploy princesses. They can increase your income, heal your troops, train your units with a discount. And one advice for early conquests. Soon enough you'll get a Lucky crown. It is an item with an insignificant, but steady heal every turn. Give it to Attila, and when you conquer a new territory don't try to finish a battle as soon as possible. Just go here and there after defeating all enemies, so that Attila (or another general with a similar item) could restore some health. Only when you are at turn 18-19 destroy HQ completely. Again, if you deploy a general with logistics (Huo or Saladin, for example) destroy walls, so that your general could restore some health too. And the same is true for healers. Try to activate their healing even if you already had defeated all enemies. One of the best affordable healers is Mocte. Joan has some value too, especially for some hard mode campaigns later on (we need up to 12 generals in some of them) and arena fights. First of all upgrade Attila's braveness. Soon enough he will clear up the whole battlefield without a minor injury.
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Post by Thortilla on Nov 10, 2021 16:17:10 GMT
Any tips for ew5 conquest? I find it really dull, and quite confusing as to the strategy. The tutorial didn't really give any useful hints. well in the classical era there are three nations that give you literature:Greece China and Inca (1,2 and 3 stars) Greece (with Same era Gens):Taking into account that your generals are in the classical era, it is better that you have them all together. taking into account that you are going to improve your technology according to your cities. then you must have many cities. here you have two maps. 1 dividing your generals and another keeping them together.by the way at the beginning keep your units in Vienna, Constantinople, Tblisi, Mashad (practically all the border cities with external countries) First Map: This map shows where your generals will go (with your Troops you will take the other countries. That is, your generals will only increase your economy and technology. Second Map: This time we will split our Generals. (This will be more fast but your generals will suffer a little bit) Blue: Group 1 Green: Group 2 Red: Alternative Group 2 Inca: This time is easy (sadly with your classic/medieval age Gens You will not be able to divide your four generals in the four directions) take the Aztec empire (You can take the Mesoamerican cities with your generals and the cities of the Caribbean and North America with your troops) First Map and only one possible to your Gens: Here we will destroy 3 big boys in 20 turns? Nice! Green:Principal Team Red:Divide the team ones you start taking China China:you are winning from the start. but if you neglect, Rome will surpass you. Japan,Angkor,India,Persia,Aztec empire,Inca can be taked with Recruited Generals. take America and Persia wait to reach the Age of Empire. Map 1: As always the first map will be all your troops United Map 2: Fastest way to finish the conquest fast but as always it’s most risky
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 23:51:59 GMT
CharlesMartel, Iron Duke, Erich von Manstein, stoic, Thortilla, thanks the advice guys. I'm starting to like archers more ngl, although Attila is hard carrying me rn. Is it better to just collect generals then make a decision what Com to use later on, or to start planning now? I'm still absorbing the information, and it's taking a while for my brain to process all of them.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Nov 11, 2021 0:31:38 GMT
CharlesMartel, Iron Duke, Erich von Manstein, stoic, Thortilla, thanks the advice guys. I'm starting to like archers more ngl, although Attila is hard carrying me rn. Is it better to just collect generals then make a decision what Com to use later on, or to start planning now? I'm still absorbing the information, and it's taking a while for my brain to process all of them. It's perfectly natural to have a hard time choose. And that's the charisma of EW5. Stop investing in Attila and for now stick with the more versatile generals: Nobunaga, Moctezuma, Saladin, Mulan, Cleopatra, Catherine, etc. These people (perhaps not Cath) have a place in most, if not all lineups.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 1:18:42 GMT
CharlesMartel , Iron Duke , Erich von Manstein , stoic , Thortilla , thanks the advice guys. I'm starting to like archers more ngl, although Attila is hard carrying me rn. Is it better to just collect generals then make a decision what Com to use later on, or to start planning now? I'm still absorbing the information, and it's taking a while for my brain to process all of them. It's perfectly natural to have a hard time choose. And that's the charisma of EW5. Stop investing in Attila and for now stick with the more versatile generals: Nobunaga, Moctezuma, Saladin, Mulan, Cleopatra, Catherine, etc. These people (perhaps not Cath) have a place in most, if not all lineups. I already maxed attila's braveness, so that's neat. I am investing in Cleopatra, and she's quite great. My problem now is where to spend medals,or rather future medals. Upgrading stars and skills is a given, but I'm more inclined to know the most efficient way to go at it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 9:00:56 GMT
After familiarizing with the conquest mechanics, it's not that bad. I dunno, i kinda like it. Takes too long tho, and for some reason you can't just win through diplomacy. Either that or i'm playing the game wrong.
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Post by Iron Duke on Nov 11, 2021 9:01:48 GMT
It's perfectly natural to have a hard time choose. And that's the charisma of EW5. Stop investing in Attila and for now stick with the more versatile generals: Nobunaga, Moctezuma, Saladin, Mulan, Cleopatra, Catherine, etc. These people (perhaps not Cath) have a place in most, if not all lineups. I already maxed attila's braveness, so that's neat. I am investing in Cleopatra, and she's quite great. My problem now is where to spend medals,or rather future medals. Upgrading stars and skills is a given, but I'm more inclined to know the most efficient way to go at it. Regarding maximal efficiency, I'll try to distill it down to the essential principles: 1. Know your final team early and only spend medals on those generals. 2. The early game is a balance between progressing through campaigns and Empire mode - campaigns yield medals and bonus items/resources and unlock cities in Empire, Empire mode gains you free medals via daily missions at certain milestones: roughly 75, 90, 125 & 155 cities. 3. Daily farming - daily missions & Legend mode every 12 hours and Arena daily. 4. Prioritising the right princesses. 5. You can only hold 300k coins so you may as well spend some when you are near the limit. 6. Level up through the ages as soon as possible. There is a bit more wiggle room with point 1 now that we have Arena and Hard mode e.g. Cleo/Khalid might not be in your mind for the main team but now I think it absolutely makes sense to have at least one of them in your 12 or 16 man team, so any medals spent on them in the early game are still an investment for the future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 9:39:01 GMT
I already maxed attila's braveness, so that's neat. I am investing in Cleopatra, and she's quite great. My problem now is where to spend medals,or rather future medals. Upgrading stars and skills is a given, but I'm more inclined to know the most efficient way to go at it. Regarding maximal efficiency, I'll try to distill it down to the essential principles: 1. Know your final team early and only spend medals on those generals. 2. The early game is a balance between progressing through campaigns and Empire mode - campaigns yield medals and bonus items/resources and unlock cities in Empire, Empire mode gains you free medals via daily missions at certain milestones: roughly 75, 90, 125 & 155 cities. 3. Daily farming - daily missions & Legend mode every 12 hours and Arena daily. 4. Prioritising the right princesses. 5. You can only hold 300k coins so you may as well spend some when you are near the limit. There is a bit more wiggle room with point 1 now that we have Arena and Hard mode e.g. Cleo/Khalid might not be in your mind for the main team but now I think it absolutely makes sense to have at least one of them in your 12 or 16 man team, so any medals spent on them in the early game are still an investment for the future. Information overload is a b****. It is true what they say, rather than give others no options, give them unlimited options and they'll be as clueless as someone given no options. That said, what end game mode is the most important, and which comp would be the most beneficial? I'm fine with tanking mid game for that sweet endgame dominance.
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Post by Iron Duke on Nov 11, 2021 11:11:24 GMT
Regarding maximal efficiency, I'll try to distill it down to the essential principles: 1. Know your final team early and only spend medals on those generals. 2. The early game is a balance between progressing through campaigns and Empire mode - campaigns yield medals and bonus items/resources and unlock cities in Empire, Empire mode gains you free medals via daily missions at certain milestones: roughly 75, 90, 125 & 155 cities. 3. Daily farming - daily missions & Legend mode every 12 hours and Arena daily. 4. Prioritising the right princesses. 5. You can only hold 300k coins so you may as well spend some when you are near the limit. There is a bit more wiggle room with point 1 now that we have Arena and Hard mode e.g. Cleo/Khalid might not be in your mind for the main team but now I think it absolutely makes sense to have at least one of them in your 12 or 16 man team, so any medals spent on them in the early game are still an investment for the future. Information overload is a b****. It is true what they say, rather than give others no options, give them unlimited options and they'll be as clueless as someone given no options. That said, what end game mode is the most important, and which comp would be the most beneficial? I'm fine with tanking mid game for that sweet endgame dominance. Empire mode becomes less important/rewarding once you reach 155 cities, although there are still missions to complete, and the Hard mode campaigns will most likely be the last ones to finish. My recommended lineup based on your preferences and my current game experience would be: Front rank: Attila, Awakened Suri, Saladin/Blucher (+Gungnir) Second rank: Nelson, Nobby (+Mystletainn), Li Hongzhang, 4th archer (Yi Sun-sin/Mocte/Awakened Hua/Cathy/Jebe) Third rank: Li Shimin Yi's the strongest choice for 4th archer but the rest are all cheaper, and with the exception of Mocte all can be given Thunder without any major conflict with their active skills. I've edited my post to add point 6 and one could also include obtaining the Artefacts asap, but that pretty much goes without saying as it is natural to desire them anyway
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 11:49:31 GMT
Iron Duke, i was wondering where genghis khan was, and sadly, he is IAP. Still kinda tempted to get him, then again i don't want to. Hard choice. Ignoring my rambling about my conflicting desires, i want to thank you for helping me despite me asking pretty much the same question with different wordings. Guess i'm a bit scared to commit atm, but i'll just go with Attila and wing it. Still taking a while to get used to EW5, the conquest is quite infuriating, but i enjoy the campaign a lot more compared to other E.T games.
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Post by Iron Duke on Nov 11, 2021 12:28:56 GMT
Iron Duke , i was wondering where genghis khan was, and sadly, he is IAP. Still kinda tempted to get him, then again i don't want to. Hard choice. Ignoring my rambling about my conflicting desires, i want to thank you for helping me despite me asking pretty much the same question with different wordings. Guess i'm a bit scared to commit atm, but i'll just go with Attila and wing it. Still taking a while to get used to EW5, the conquest is quite infuriating, but i enjoy the campaign a lot more compared to other E.T games. No worries, I'd suggest you limit yourself to spending medals on Attila and Nobby (and to a lesser extent Cleo) to start with while you get a feel for the game. There is a lot to take in and sometimes it is better to just enjoy playing. The only major mis-step would be if you spent 2-3k medals on a general that you later decided was surplus to requirements.
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