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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 12:27:23 GMT
So who will be OP?
i only used Ghengis in most scenarios.
Suri was the only additional cav unit i ever had. I am now in tempting getting Attila to replace Suri.
Suri dissapointed me in some certain ways.
CharlesMagne is OP? means meta?
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Post by mayankshadow on Nov 26, 2021 13:23:51 GMT
Charle is worst. He is playing puns and irony by telling him as best.
I guess suri provides best value in terms of medals. Genghis is best inf killer. Blucher is best support. Attila is wroth in cav comm. All are essential features of cav comm, so i vote all but i still think suri is best.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Nov 26, 2021 13:27:33 GMT
I would say in CavCom, Attila is irreplaceable. All In all, the best is Blucher no contest. As for who I would use in the most situations, Charlemagne OP.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 13:33:28 GMT
Charle is worst. He is playing puns and irony by telling him as best. I guess suri provides best value in terms of medals. Genghis is best inf killer. Blucher is best support. Attila is wroth in cav comm. All are essential features of cav comm, so i vote all but i still think suri is best. What do you mean, he's obviously the best. That said, cecillia , in terms of pure price performance, mayankshadow is right about Suri. Her stats are actually pretty good, comparable to blue generals, and with inspiration, purple. In terms of overall performance, i still have to give it to Attila, only because of his higher stats, but Suri is definitey close behind. Genghis is just a stat ball that is heavily reliant on bottle of life. Blucher is the most versatile,as he can fit in any team, but he appears late and has a high medal cost. For Charlemagne, his only niche is just being a punching bag in arena. Basically the best cavalry general. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 26, 2021 22:54:24 GMT
So who will be OP? i only used Ghengis in most scenarios. Suri was the only additional cav unit i ever had. I am now in tempting getting Attila to replace Suri. Suri dissapointed me in some certain ways. CharlesMagne is OP? means meta? I'm actually not a big fan of (awakened) Suri, but I can see what all of the fuss about her is about. My vote goes to Atilla. Braveness is (usually) a broken skill to have, nullifying counterattacks while you are attacking, so less chances of debuffs and ensuring when they attack, their damage gets lowered. He is also broken if you go with CavCom, or you have a significant cavalry corp you can buff. Blucher I think is the best defensively. He has Defense Master, which halves damage for 3 turns, general, which is a good skill IMO, and Rumor. The goes well with ArchCom, because archers are pretty fragile. Suleiman is worse Blucher, his stats are better, but his skills are worse. Also, he's horribly expensive. Charlemagne is so OP when in the shop, but when you buy him, his OP level goes full circle and he becomes trash. Genghis is just Attila but worse IMO. Only thing he is better at is infantry handling. In the arena, I would say Blucher is the best if you set up Defense Master quickly, or Attila if you have Bottle of Life, or if you can crowd Caesar and Monty in. Generally, however, I would say Blucher is the best in the arena most of the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 2:09:23 GMT
So who will be OP? i only used Ghengis in most scenarios. Suri was the only additional cav unit i ever had. I am now in tempting getting Attila to replace Suri. Suri dissapointed me in some certain ways. CharlesMagne is OP? means meta? I'm actually not a big fan of (awakened) Suri, but I can see what all of the fuss about her is about. My vote goes to Atilla. Braveness is (usually) a broken skill to have, nullifying counterattacks while you are attacking, so less chances of debuffs and ensuring when they attack, their damage gets lowered. He is also broken if you go with CavCom, or you have a significant cavalry corp you can buff. Blucher I think is the best defensively. He has Defense Master, which halves damage for 3 turns, general, which is a good skill IMO, and Rumor. The goes well with ArchCom, because archers are pretty fragile. Suleiman is worse Blucher, his stats are better, but his skills are worse. Also, he's horribly expensive. Charlemagne is so OP when in the shop, but when you buy him, his OP level goes full circle and he becomes trash. Genghis is just Attila but worse IMO. Only thing he is better at is infantry handling. In the arena, I would say Blucher is the best if you set up Defense Master quickly, or Attila if you have Bottle of Life, or if you can crowd Caesar and Monty in. Generally, however, I would say Blucher is the best in the arena most of the time. Blucher needs a 2 titan 2 paladin set to get his rage quick in arena. Especially against heavy archer teams. But yes,accurate. I won't say Attila is broken, just really strong. Charlemagne on the other hand, now that's what i call broken. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 27, 2021 3:05:50 GMT
I'm actually not a big fan of (awakened) Suri, but I can see what all of the fuss about her is about. My vote goes to Atilla. Braveness is (usually) a broken skill to have, nullifying counterattacks while you are attacking, so less chances of debuffs and ensuring when they attack, their damage gets lowered. He is also broken if you go with CavCom, or you have a significant cavalry corp you can buff. Blucher I think is the best defensively. He has Defense Master, which halves damage for 3 turns, general, which is a good skill IMO, and Rumor. The goes well with ArchCom, because archers are pretty fragile. Suleiman is worse Blucher, his stats are better, but his skills are worse. Also, he's horribly expensive. Charlemagne is so OP when in the shop, but when you buy him, his OP level goes full circle and he becomes trash. Genghis is just Attila but worse IMO. Only thing he is better at is infantry handling. In the arena, I would say Blucher is the best if you set up Defense Master quickly, or Attila if you have Bottle of Life, or if you can crowd Caesar and Monty in. Generally, however, I would say Blucher is the best in the arena most of the time. Blucher needs a 2 titan 2 paladin set to get his rage quick in arena. Especially against heavy archer teams. But yes,accurate. I won't say Attila is broken, just really strong. Charlemagne on the other hand, now that's what i call broken. If you invest significantly in CavCom, Attila might have the chance to be broken  . I'm not sure if he needs that much equipment to get rage quick, and I don't think there are many archer teams in the arena (at least in my point of the game). I'm sure Blucher can function well even with rage filling up in 3-4 turns. Yes, Charlemagne is a broken general. Oh so very broken. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 27, 2021 3:48:17 GMT
When our generals fill their rage bar in arena, the fighting is practically over. Therefore auras of different types are not as effective there as everywhere else. Actually Leadership (surprise, yes ) and Rumor are the two most useful skills in arena. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 3:51:46 GMT
6Johnny23,   No one in the enemy team managed to use their active, and i use an archer heavy team. This was one reason why i considered not getting Blucher and just invest in my Saladin,but i remembered how most of the game is PVE and not PVP, so Blucher is definitely worth getting later on. Definitely needs to get rage quick. Also one reason why i'm considering building Alexander with a 2 titan/2 paladin set with Aegis equipped. 60 rage regen or 40 rage Regen with 20 initial rage. Should be able to use Aegis in turn 3. Arena isn't that important aside from getting awakened generals and the really strong items, so it's more of an endgame consideration.
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 27, 2021 3:57:14 GMT
6Johnny23 , No one in the enemy team managed to use their active, and i use an archer heavy team. This was one reason why i considered not getting Blucher and just invest in my Saladin,but i remembered how most of the game is PVE and not PVP, so Blucher is definitely worth getting later on. Definitely needs to get rage quick. Also one reason why i'm considering building Alexander with a 2 titan/2 paladin set with Aegis equipped. 60 rage regen or 40 rage Regen with 20 initial rage. Should be able to use Aegis in turn 3. Arena isn't that important aside from getting awakened generals and the really strong items, so it's more of an endgame consideration. Ah. Granted, Arena enemies can usually be dispatched quickly, so Blucher kinda loses use there. I would start fighting in the arena early on to get items faster, and since you don't have much investment into you generals sometimes, Blucher can be a good buy, but I get what you are saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 3:57:34 GMT
When our generals fill their rage bar in arena, the fighting is practically over. Therefore auras of different types are not as effective there as everywhere else. Actually Leadership (surprise, yes ) and Rumor are the two most useful skills in arena. Leadership is definitely the best skill in the game. You need 2 lvl 10 commanders to nullify it's effect,and good luck getting those in Arena. Makes me consider getting Edward for my cav team. Even tho he lacks bravery, with enough defense investment with some health regen, he can be a good general. Now that i'm thinking about it, attila+Edward+awakened Suri is the ideal cav comm team, just add in Blucher in the mix. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 4:08:29 GMT
6Johnny23, just getting more archers with leadership is enough to win in Arena decisively. I haven't lost in arena once i had my archers set-up. Even against full I.A.P + gold teams, tho i think they don't have the best items equipped,that or leadership is just that good. It's just great seeing Genghis khan enter the kill zone and be destroyed by archers.
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 27, 2021 4:13:10 GMT
6Johnny23 , just getting more archers with leadership is enough to win in Arena decisively. I haven't lost in arena once i had my archers set-up. Even against full I.A.P + gold teams, tho i think they don't have the best items equipped,that or leadership is just that good. It's just great seeing Genghis khan enter the kill zone and be destroyed by archers. Ah. Arch-Com shreds through the arena, so I guess buying Blucher for the arena isn't exactly the greatest idea. I'm thinking of developing a team specializing in inflicting debuffs, could be useful in campaigns as well. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Nov 27, 2021 4:21:27 GMT
When our generals fill their rage bar in arena, the fighting is practically over. Therefore auras of different types are not as effective there as everywhere else. Actually Leadership (surprise, yes ) and Rumor are the two most useful skills in arena. Leadership is definitely the best skill in the game. You need 2 lvl 10 commanders to nullify it's effect,and good luck getting those in Arena. Makes me consider getting Edward for my cav team. Even tho he lacks bravery, with enough defense investment with some health regen, he can be a good general. Now that i'm thinking about it, attila+Edward+awakened Suri is the ideal cav comm team, just add in Blucher in the mix. You can consider using Asoka. I'm not crazy about Edward's Leadership because as SolidLight said, you have to take a un-debuffed hit to trigger it. Of course Asoka's HP is an issue as well. I have seen people using 4 commanders in CavCom and ArchCom lineups so perhaps you can just go with both of them? |
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Post by stoic on Nov 27, 2021 4:28:10 GMT
When our generals fill their rage bar in arena, the fighting is practically over. Therefore auras of different types are not as effective there as everywhere else. Actually Leadership (surprise, yes ) and Rumor are the two most useful skills in arena. Leadership is definitely the best skill in the game. You need 2 lvl 10 commanders to nullify it's effect,and good luck getting those in Arena. Makes me consider getting Edward for my cav team. Even tho he lacks bravery, with enough defense investment with some health regen, he can be a good general. Now that i'm thinking about it, attila+Edward+awakened Suri is the ideal cav comm team, just add in Blucher in the mix. Absolutely. The more powerful our cavalry team is the best is the individual performance of each general. Leadership plus Armour master is the best defensive combination for cavalry. |
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