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Post by Thortilla on Nov 27, 2021 4:07:12 GMT
which is the best for you?……….(here is when Nobunaga gets 90% of the votes)
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 27, 2021 4:33:55 GMT
which is the best for you?……….(here is when Nobunaga gets 90% of the votes) I'm narrowing my vote down to 4 choices: Washington, Nobunaga, Nelson, and Montezuma. It's not Montezuma, I think he needs more than just healing and Leadership. It's not Nelson, He isn't better than Nobunaga. It's between Washington and Nobunaga. Washington targets everything but arty in 6*s (in 2 perks, so retaliation is guaranteed), 170% for archers, 150% for infantry and cavalry and 30% chance of no retaliation. Nobby has 50% chance of no retaliation and Mass Fire, so 150% damage for everything. I say Nobby wins for perks. They both have Sniper Master. Spy and Leadership are better skills for an archer than Logistics and Defense Master. Washington's stats are better, however. Nobunaga victory. Nelson vs. Washington for 2nd place. Nelson has 50% chance of no retaliation and Longbow. Washington targets everything but arty in 6*s (in 2 perks, so retaliation is guaranteed), 170% for archers, 150% for infantry and cavalry. Also 30% chance of no retaliation. Ranges from a tie to a slight Washington win. Commander is much better than SM. Logistics is better than Navigation (unless on water). General is much better than Defense Master. Nelson wins by quite a bit in the skills department. Washington again has better stats. I say Nelson will win most of the time, Washington will hit hard but Leadership will throw him in a spiral of doom. Nelson is less affected by it and has better skills.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 5:40:36 GMT
Definitely Nobunaga. Double tap+ debuffs make him a must buy for any team,unless you're handicapping yourself by going for a no nobunaga run, and against buildings and artillery, he outdamages Washington. Washington is second place, costly upgrade for his logistics, but he's one of the best users of Gungir due to his monstrously high atk stat+ bonus damage against all units except for buildings and artillery. Basically a one man army, until he gets hit by rumor and dies pitifully. Stat ball+sustain+effective damage against all types. Honourable mention is Moctezuma, Li and Nelson. Montezuma for being the mvp of the early and mid game, and can is still end game material due to leadership and cure master for prolonged fights. Li for being an archer commander+leadership. Nelson for him having archer commander, 3 range and high stats. Awakened Pachi is also in the conversation, but he'll be in your team so late into the game that he pretty much is just a trophy general.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 7:08:46 GMT
well.. let me vote for Washington... cuz i bought him right away from start he was promising... i am still content with him while Nobunaga coming next to him then I am fan of the blue general Cath. although only blue... then Mocty, Pachi and Hua Mulan. Last two from Arena. and Robin Hood. Nelson and Li Zhong i never had. cant say anything about them. Also not Yi Sun Shin
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Nov 27, 2021 12:42:26 GMT
Is this a question? Nobby. Also, 6Johnny23, why do you put Navigation to Nelson equal to Logistics on Washington?
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Post by mayankshadow on Nov 27, 2021 14:41:17 GMT
which is the best for you?……….(here is when Nobunaga gets 90% of the votes) I'm narrowing my vote down to 4 choices: Washington, Nobunaga, Nelson, and Montezuma. It's not Montezuma, I think he needs more than just healing and Leadership. It's not Nelson, He isn't better than Nobunaga. It's between Washington and Nobunaga. Washington targets everything but arty in 6*s (in 2 perks, so retaliation is guaranteed), 170% for archers, 150% for infantry and cavalry. Nobby has 50% chance of no retaliation and Mass Fire, so 150% damage for everything. I say Nobby wins for perks. They both have Sniper Master. Spy and Leadership are better skills for an archer than Logistics and Defense Master. Washington's stats are better, however. Nobunaga victory. Nelson vs. Washington for 2nd place. Nelson has 50% chance of no retaliation and Longbow. Washington targets everything but arty in 6*s (in 2 perks, so retaliation is guaranteed), 170% for archers, 150% for infantry and cavalry. I say it's around a tie, even if one is better than the other, it's not big enough of a difference to sway my opinion. Commander is much better than SM. Navigation is equal to Logistics. General is (much) better than Defense Master. Washington again has better stats. I say Nelson wins. Wash has 30% cant attack back. He is best
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Nov 27, 2021 14:57:52 GMT
Wash has 30% cant attack back. He is best I can't agree with you. A debuff on an archer is gold, as is Mass Fire. Logistics IMO is pretty bad on an archer, as you want them to fire furst while cav mops up.
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Post by stoic on Nov 27, 2021 15:04:57 GMT
To me Li is the best one as a team player. Huge bonus against cavalry, Commander skill, Leadership, good defence. I played a couple of times without Nobunaga, but I haven't ever played without Li.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 15:05:17 GMT
Wash has 30% cant attack back. He is best I can't agree with you. A debuff on an archer is gold, as is Mass Fire. Logistics IMO is pretty bad on an archer, as you want them to fire furst while cav mops up. Logistics works on Washinton because he has the stats to use it effectively. And later on, enemies will be plenty, so more kills for everybody. His stats just make him work, him having the highest attack and great hp and armor for an archer. That's why he's second place. He had leadership, rumor or even inspiration as his third skill then he'd be first.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 15:06:22 GMT
To me Li is the best one as a team player. Huge bonus against cavalry, Commander skill, Leadership, good defence. I played a couple of times without Nobunaga, but I haven't ever played without Li. A contrarian boo. But yeah, li is great. Bad availability tho.
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Post by stoic on Nov 27, 2021 15:11:49 GMT
To me Li is the best one as a team player. Huge bonus against cavalry, Commander skill, Leadership, good defence. I played a couple of times without Nobunaga, but I haven't ever played without Li. A contrarian boo. But yeah, li is great. Bad availability tho. Bad availablity?! You were in Industrial age after 10 days of playing
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Nov 27, 2021 15:14:22 GMT
To me Li is the best one as a team player. Huge bonus against cavalry, Commander skill, Leadership, good defence. I played a couple of times without Nobunaga, but I haven't ever played without Li. His stats doe. And I would prefer Spy and Mass Fire to Strike and ArchCom. But seriously, I always get him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 15:15:26 GMT
A contrarian boo. But yeah, li is great. Bad availability tho. Bad availablity?! You were in Industrial age after 10 days of playing I mean, i don't have an answer to that actually. Well, i completed all the ages before industrial without him. But then again,the moment i got him, he became a mainstay in most missions. Yeah i got nothing.
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Post by stoic on Nov 27, 2021 15:18:33 GMT
Bad availablity?! You were in Industrial age after 10 days of playing I mean, i don't have an answer to that actually. Well, i completed all the ages before industrial without him. But then again,the moment i got him, he became a mainstay in most missions. Yeah i got nothing. Believe me you will appreciate his value more and more the longer you will play 😂
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 27, 2021 16:05:47 GMT
I'm narrowing my vote down to 4 choices: Washington, Nobunaga, Nelson, and Montezuma. It's not Montezuma, I think he needs more than just healing and Leadership. It's not Nelson, He isn't better than Nobunaga. It's between Washington and Nobunaga. Washington targets everything but arty in 6*s (in 2 perks, so retaliation is guaranteed), 170% for archers, 150% for infantry and cavalry. Nobby has 50% chance of no retaliation and Mass Fire, so 150% damage for everything. I say Nobby wins for perks. They both have Sniper Master. Spy and Leadership are better skills for an archer than Logistics and Defense Master. Washington's stats are better, however. Nobunaga victory. Nelson vs. Washington for 2nd place. Nelson has 50% chance of no retaliation and Longbow. Washington targets everything but arty in 6*s (in 2 perks, so retaliation is guaranteed), 170% for archers, 150% for infantry and cavalry. I say it's around a tie, even if one is better than the other, it's not big enough of a difference to sway my opinion. Commander is much better than SM. Navigation is equal to Logistics. General is (much) better than Defense Master. Washington again has better stats. I say Nelson wins. Wash has 30% cant attack back. He is best I believe he has Archery and Strafe at Lv 6.
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