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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Jan 27, 2022 5:46:42 GMT
But, a large force certainly increases the chances of victory.2 divisions cannot resist 40 divisions, no matter who commands them didn't the Italian have to defend Libya and Ethiopia so I don't think that many division will attack 2 division Defend Libya and Ethiopia from whom? According to Wikipedia, Italy had 59 Infantry divisions in 1940
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 5:51:23 GMT
didn't the Italian have to defend Libya and Ethiopia so I don't think that many division will attack 2 division Defend Libya and Ethiopia from whom? According to Wikipedia, Italy had 59 Infantry divisions in 1940 Just because they are allies does not mean they will keep this forever and not invading it so they have to at least stay some division in that area to held off some attack
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Jan 27, 2022 5:56:51 GMT
Defend Libya and Ethiopia from whom? According to Wikipedia, Italy had 59 Infantry divisions in 1940 Just because they are allies does not mean they will keep this forever and not invading it so they have to at least stay some division in that area to held off some attack I don't think so. Italy stationed 2 divisions each in Libya and East Africa in 1940
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 5:58:02 GMT
Isolationism is fine but Us have to involve somewhere because Japanese were barred from oil and 80% oil trade of Japan were from US so yeah What does that has to do with Germany? Now Hitler was aware the industrial capacity of US so after he complete the resources then he declare war on US, but in November 41 things change Hitler see that USSR could not beaten in 41 and the assumption that us will prepare for war in 42 so after the attack Hitler declare on US to held them off at two front war and convince Japanese to attack ussr, while the KMS did try to persuade Hitler onto war with us he delay it until attack happened (german did not know the attack)
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 5:59:05 GMT
Just because they are allies does not mean they will keep this forever and not invading it so they have to at least stay some division in that area to held off some attack I don't think so. Italy stationed 2 divisions each in Libya and East Africa in 1940 OK but let's just say that instead of two division defend Southern flank let's say about 120.000 man defending it
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 6:05:06 GMT
now the Italian navy could support the blockade or attack the coast of German occupied land but for the army..., the geography of the frontline is mountain base and it's favor the defender...
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 6:10:41 GMT
But the Italian army could support the French in France by help guard some area and help the Alliance attack or defend
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 6:12:28 GMT
So at this point it's a Stalemate,depend on decision that Italian/German/French make then Germany could have be defeat much more faster or just faster in general
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Post by John Marston on Jan 27, 2022 9:59:44 GMT
And the Japanese were plan to attack US in pacific,also us were never truly neutral they send lend lease to Britain and USSR Lend lease and active participation in war are 2 different things. Britain would never had the strength to land on France without the industrial and military might of the US.
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 10:01:05 GMT
And the Japanese were plan to attack US in pacific,also us were never truly neutral they send lend lease to Britain and USSR Lend lease and active participation in war are 2 different things. Britain would never had the strength to land on France without the industrial and military might of the US. Yeah
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 10:01:55 GMT
But to be fair Soviet Union gonna win patriotic war anyway
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Post by John Marston on Jan 27, 2022 10:02:09 GMT
What does that has to do with Germany? Now Hitler was aware the industrial capacity of US so after he complete the resources then he declare war on US, but in November 41 things change Hitler see that USSR could not beaten in 41 and the assumption that us will prepare for war in 42 so after the attack Hitler declare on US to held them off at two front war and convince Japanese to attack ussr, while the KMS did try to persuade Hitler onto war with us he delay it until attack happened (german did not know the attack) Uh...a small correction - Hitler didn't knew the industrial might of the US. He totally underestimated US military and industrial power hence declared war on the US. TBH, the American performance industrially and militarily would have surprised the American leaders too.
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 10:02:23 GMT
Also no Italy landing and Tunisia battle
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Post by JustANormalAccount on Jan 27, 2022 10:03:19 GMT
Now Hitler was aware the industrial capacity of US so after he complete the resources then he declare war on US, but in November 41 things change Hitler see that USSR could not beaten in 41 and the assumption that us will prepare for war in 42 so after the attack Hitler declare on US to held them off at two front war and convince Japanese to attack ussr, while the KMS did try to persuade Hitler onto war with us he delay it until attack happened (german did not know the attack) Uh...a small correction - Hitler didn't knew the industrial might of the US. He totally underestimated US military and industrial power hence declared war on the US. TBH, the American performance industrially and militarily would have surprised the American leaders too. Didn't the second book said that Hitler know industrial might of US?
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Post by John Marston on Jan 27, 2022 10:06:23 GMT
But to be fair Soviet Union gonna win patriotic war anyway If alone, then highly impossible I'd say.
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