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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 24, 2020 18:43:03 GMT
 the god unit, good on everything Nah, I prefer Sakurako. π Nothing against Lannes, I simply don't like any general without Bugle/Strike/Accurate (unless it's Sophia). |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Mar 24, 2020 19:18:58 GMT
the god unit, good on everything Nah, I prefer Sakurako. π Nothing against Lannes, I simply don't like any general without Bugle/Strike/Accurate (unless it's Sophia). I like bugle, but imo the ideal infantry has mass fire and leadership. If you have those two, anything else is like frosting on the cake. I need infantry mostly to protect my artillery from flanking and encirclement (lannes and washington are amazing for that). The artillery does the remainder of the damage. Plus flank suvorov with two cavarly units and he is done for. Lannes is like a shield of spikes that we must stay away from. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 24, 2020 19:45:32 GMT
Nah, I prefer Sakurako. π Nothing against Lannes, I simply don't like any general without Bugle/Strike/Accurate (unless it's Sophia). I like bugle, but imo the ideal infantry has mass fire and leadership. If you have those two, anything else is like frosting on the cake. I need infantry mostly to protect my artillery from flanking and encirclement (lannes and washington are amazing for that). The artillery does the remainder of the damage. Plus flank suvorov with two cavarly units and he is done for. Lannes is like a shield of spikes that we must stay away from. Yes for Leadership, but I prefer Bugle over Mass Fire. Therefore Wellesley it is. |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Mar 24, 2020 20:15:42 GMT
I like bugle, but imo the ideal infantry has mass fire and leadership. If you have those two, anything else is like frosting on the cake. I need infantry mostly to protect my artillery from flanking and encirclement (lannes and washington are amazing for that). The artillery does the remainder of the damage. Plus flank suvorov with two cavarly units and he is done for. Lannes is like a shield of spikes that we must stay away from. Yes for Leadership, but I prefer Bugle over Mass Fire. Therefore Wellesley it is. I was thinking of buying wellesley and giving him a snare drum. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 24, 2020 21:52:14 GMT
Yes for Leadership, but I prefer Bugle over Mass Fire. Therefore Wellesley it is. I was thinking of buying wellesley and giving him a snare drum. If you have a "hack" lot of medals, Wellesley with a snare drum and a Ferguson will be the best infantry general because you can just throw him into the enemies and give him a medkit every turn. |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Mar 24, 2020 22:41:52 GMT
I was thinking of buying wellesley and giving him a snare drum. If you have a "hack" lot of medals, Wellesley with a snare drum and a Ferguson will be the best infantry general because you can just throw him into the enemies and give him a medkit every turn. The issue is that I would rather give the snare drum to a cavarly general. Which is my main dilemma in buying him. |
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Post by ambitiousace on Mar 25, 2020 12:31:04 GMT
Personally I got him and Washington..Guess who is still in my arsenal up till nowπ
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Post by SolidLight on Mar 25, 2020 16:30:48 GMT
Is morale that important so that Leadership is better than a lot of other stuff? I know that it's an irreplaceable skill but I generally haven't found morale to affect much in any ET game except for GCR and WC4. I mean, you can gain morale by being a death machine and just killing stuff. Like Lan is.
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Post by Hannibal Barca on Mar 25, 2020 18:26:11 GMT
Is morale that important so that Leadership is better than a lot of other stuff? I know that it's an irreplaceable skill but I generally haven't found morale to affect much in any ET game except for GCR and WC4. I mean, you can gain morale by being a death machine and just killing stuff. Like Lan is. I think it is ( from my past experiences ) but I hope someone could tell us how much it influences the damage of some units. In EW4 flancking is a lot more important than in any other game since that allows to take less damage to the point you can kill an enemy general in only one turn . Also, if your infantry/artillery genral is attacked by 2 light cavalry units ut can be rumored in just 2 turns so it can be compared to the Rumor skill in WC4 . |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 25, 2020 21:13:44 GMT
Is morale that important so that Leadership is better than a lot of other stuff? I know that it's an irreplaceable skill but I generally haven't found morale to affect much in any ET game except for GCR and WC4. I mean, you can gain morale by being a death machine and just killing stuff. Like Lan is. It's not THAT important but certainly a good one to have for your infantry or artillery general (spoke by someone whose Scharnhorst got stunned by some random light cavalry and had to restart). Having it will make those generals less fragile and, in some cases, able to be thrown into hordes of enemies and deal massive damage by counterattacking. That's a rather luxurious tactic though since you will probably need a lot of medkits. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Mar 26, 2020 15:08:12 GMT
Is morale that important so that Leadership is better than a lot of other stuff? I know that it's an irreplaceable skill but I generally haven't found morale to affect much in any ET game except for GCR and WC4. I mean, you can gain morale by being a death machine and just killing stuff. Like Lan is. All not with Items replaceable skills like the Evasion skills, Spy, Leadership, Architecture and maybe Banner(Flags come too late) are extra valuable compared to skill like geography or Mass fire. (You will have one War Hose anyway, like at least one Snare) For me Leadership is the most valuable skill, especially for cavallary: If you're morale won't go Dark you can run in the middle of more many enemies and whipe them out one after the other - in one turn. Leadership made Lan, after training, superior to sakurako. This is very effective with Isabella on rockets you can clean out a front in one turn - almost without taking damage. In EW4 the flanking/morale is the most important/effective combat tactics - to attack an General with Leadership needs at least double efforts. |
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Post by SolidLight on Mar 26, 2020 15:29:29 GMT
Is morale that important so that Leadership is better than a lot of other stuff? I know that it's an irreplaceable skill but I generally haven't found morale to affect much in any ET game except for GCR and WC4. I mean, you can gain morale by being a death machine and just killing stuff. Like Lan is. All not with Items replaceable skills like the Evasion skills, Spy, Leadership, Architecture and maybe Banner(Flags come too late) are extra valuable compared to skill like geography or Mass fire. (You will have one War Hose anyway, like at least one Snare) For me Leadership is the most valuable skill, especially for cavallary: If you're morale won't go Dark you can run in the middle of more many enemies and whipe them out one after the other - in one turn. Leadership made Lan, after training, superior to sakurako. This is very effective with Isabella on rockets you can clean out a front in one turn - almost without taking damage. In EW4 the flanking/morale is the most important/effective combat tactics - to attack an General with Leadership needs at least double efforts. Lan is such a death machine that she'll have high morale even without Leadership because she'll kill loads of people. I can see it being more valuable on infantry or artillery, more for not having your movement space limited when you hit -2 morale than for the damage decrease itself, though that's not a bad part of it either. I never really cared flanking enemies unless I see an opportunity to stun an enemy. In fact I'm more worried about the "being surrounded by enemies" part than the morale part. As being surrounded by enemies means potentially taking tons of damage because the AI seems to like to focus fire. How much does morale increase or decrease damage anyway? |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Mar 27, 2020 0:40:51 GMT
]Lan is such a death machine that she'll have high morale even without Leadership because she'll kill loads of people. I can see it being more valuable on infantry or artillery, more for not having your movement space limited when you hit -2 morale than for the damage decrease itself, though that's not a bad part of it either. I never really cared flanking enemies unless I see an opportunity to stun an enemy. In fact I'm more worried about the "being surrounded by enemies" part than the morale part. As being surrounded by enemies means potentially taking tons of damage because the AI seems to like to focus fire.Β How much does morale increase or decrease damage anyway? Lan has Leadership - this makes her the better cavallary, AssultArt is imo a ' Fun To Have' but practical useless because unreliable skill and surprise gives only +1 max Attack more. Leadership doesn't prevent morale from dropping - it prevents from morale becoming bad (even if foodshortage I think) and a also perfect skill for a city-defender (with massfire and economic master) - most hard to take out Flanking is very important in EW4- before you hit: - move one useless/weak unit so, that you lower the emys morale but don't attack with them - now your attack - you will hit so significant harder - and the counterattack is harmless (probably even more important. When used for flanking, a weak unit can cause much more (additional) damage without fighting. I never would attack with bad morale if it is not abslutely unavoidable or a dying enemy unit - the damage you deal feels like half and the counterattack will cause unnecessary high losses. I never had the situation to be confused for being flanked (confused because foodshortage can cause the fail of a mission ) to have this you need 3 pairs of enemies flanking you - you can't move anyway - but Leadership will be your livesaver in this case I assume |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Mar 27, 2020 1:23:20 GMT
Is morale that important so that Leadership is better than a lot of other stuff? I know that it's an irreplaceable skill but I generally haven't found morale to affect much in any ET game except for GCR and WC4. I mean, you can gain morale by being a death machine and just killing stuff. Like Lan is. On artillery and infantry, yes, they are very vulnerable to cavarly. On navy and cavarly, no |
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Post by Friedrich βFried Riceβ Paulus on Mar 27, 2020 1:38:38 GMT
We can agree on one thing though. Moreau and Lassalle are absolutely terrible generals, let alone iaps. Moreau has crap training stars, no leadership, and pretty terrible trading stars. Even scharnhorst is better for free.
Lasalle is just a crappy golitsyn. With the same weaknesses as golitsyn. Just for 5$. There are piles on non iap generals superior like salurako. Lassalle is absolute garbage.
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