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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 21, 2022 1:31:37 GMT
Talent is basically the same as com skills tho and higher chance at that so thats kinda irrelevant since cavcom is even highly regarded and i think hes still good for archer because in my experience he can hit 4 times(on my cav only since i only use him on that so far) and thatd be op if he can change unit in arena/epic war(you'd def not wanna put him in archers on conquest and campaign as you only have 2 normally and 3 ocassionally and the 3rd one is prolly not even a good archer unit) Btw aetius could be a good inf gen too inf com and ambush its just that hes a hybrid. As I said, his talent loses some of its usefulness on cavalry. When fighting against normal units i.e. not gods or ramparts, you want to plan your cavalry hits so that your cavalry destroys a legion. That way, you have a 60% chance to attack again. That is why, for cavalry (if it works like I think it does) Han's talent only gives a +20% chance for a new attack when you kill a stack. Aëtius, with his two good skills is a good infantry general indeed. I think Chase can only trigger once per turn. |
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Han Xin
Jul 21, 2022 10:51:16 GMT
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 21, 2022 10:51:16 GMT
I think Chase can only trigger once per turn. if thats true than i am far tooo lucky with cav commander skill. |
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 21, 2022 16:25:27 GMT
I think Chase can only trigger once per turn. if thats true than i am far tooo lucky with cav commander skill. omg!! i think you are right after some testing with a gen who doesnt have the attack again skill. Huo. is this legit? and how am i that lucky with my cavcom then?! |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 21, 2022 17:58:04 GMT
if thats true than i am far tooo lucky with cav commander skill. omg!! i think you are right after some testing with a gen who doesnt have the attack again skill. Huo. is this legit? and how am i that lucky with my cavcom then?! According to easytech, a cavalry unit without general can trigger Chase up to once per turn. So there are 2 hypotheses: 1. Chase can only be triggered up to once per turn. With or without a general. 2. The maximum number of times Chase can be triggered per turn is limited to one for units without general. The limit will be removed if we deploy a general. Which one sounds more convincing to you? |
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Post by run4glory on Jul 21, 2022 18:00:17 GMT
if thats true than i am far tooo lucky with cav commander skill. omg!! i think you are right after some testing with a gen who doesnt have the attack again skill. Huo. is this legit? and how am i that lucky with my cavcom then?! It for sure is. Never in my life did Chase trigger twice. Sometimes I also have the feeling my ArchCom triggers the commander skill more than 25%. But could be wrong too. Also, out of curiosity: Do you think the commander skills can only trigger twice, not three times in a turn? Because I have three attacks with my ArchCom quite regularly (on avg once per battle), but I never remember having been able to attack 4 times with an Archer or 5 times with a cavalry in one turn. |
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Han Xin
Jul 21, 2022 18:09:14 GMT
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jul 21, 2022 18:09:14 GMT
omg!! i think you are right after some testing with a gen who doesnt have the attack again skill. Huo. is this legit? and how am i that lucky with my cavcom then?! According to easytech, a cavalry unit without general can trigger Chase up to once per turn. So there are 2 hypotheses: 1. Chase can only be triggered up to once per turn. With or without a general. 2. The maximum number of times Chase can be triggered per turn is limited to one for units without general. The limit will be removed if we deploy a general. Which one sounds more convincing to you? În all the battles I've fought, generals without Cavalry Commander never get more than a second attack while those with it can get up to four. Clearly adding a general alone doesn't remove the limit. Here's a hypothesis about why your percentages might seem higher. If the commander skill is triggered, then chase likely comes back into play. So you have an attack, then chase with 60% probability, then if the commander skill triggers and assuming you take out a unit, chase can trigger again. It does seem that when you get three attacks, you do quite often get a fourth as well, so I'm guessing this is how it works. |
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Han Xin
Jul 21, 2022 19:46:12 GMT
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 21, 2022 19:46:12 GMT
În all the battles I've fought, generals without Cavalry Commander never get more than a second attack while those with it can get up to four. Clearly adding a general alone doesn't remove the limit. Here's a hypothesis about why your percentages might seem higher. If the commander skill is triggered, then chase likely comes back into play. So you have an attack, then chase with 60% probability, then if the commander skill triggers and assuming you take out a unit, chase can trigger again. It does seem that when you get three attacks, you do quite often get a fourth as well, so I'm guessing this is how it works. sounds like a promising idea! |
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 21, 2022 19:49:52 GMT
Erich von Manstein , it must be legit. my surpise was just the sound of you blowing my mind  Theron of Acragas , idea might have sth though xD that the skill resets chase as a "new turn" instead of "attack"
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Han Xin
Jul 21, 2022 20:01:44 GMT
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 21, 2022 20:01:44 GMT
It for sure is. Never in my life did Chase trigger twice. Sometimes I also have the feeling my ArchCom triggers the commander skill more than 25%. But could be wrong too. Also, out of curiosity: Do you think the commander skills can only trigger twice, not three times in a turn? Because I have three attacks with my ArchCom quite regularly (on avg once per battle), but I never remember having been able to attack 4 times with an Archer or 5 times with a cavalry in one turn. i need to pay more attention to this before i can answer you  |
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Han Xin
Jul 22, 2022 1:48:48 GMT
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Jul 22, 2022 1:48:48 GMT
omg!! i think you are right after some testing with a gen who doesnt have the attack again skill. Huo. is this legit? and how am i that lucky with my cavcom then?! It for sure is. Never in my life did Chase trigger twice. Sometimes I also have the feeling my ArchCom triggers the commander skill more than 25%. But could be wrong too. Also, out of curiosity: Do you think the commander skills can only trigger twice, not three times in a turn? Because I have three attacks with my ArchCom quite regularly (on avg once per battle), but I never remember having been able to attack 4 times with an Archer or 5 times with a cavalry in one turn. I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I've had four attacks with both Pompey and Mithy. I'll definitely watch to make sure. |
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