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Post by starfire67 on Sept 8, 2022 10:14:04 GMT
Looks like the medals come from an extension of the daily login rewards. I can't seem to post the image, but it's on the EasyTech discord. There's 8 of them - be interesting to see what they each give.
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Post by jonblend on Sept 8, 2022 22:33:59 GMT
Interesting. Hopefully, they will add scenarios where we can use these new generals, skills and upgrades. Only conquest 1 and 2 have changes all other btl seem to be untouched. Hm, maybe I find time on the weekend to play this game again.
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Post by Just One Bite on Sept 9, 2022 3:20:08 GMT
Only conquest 1 and 2 have changes all other btl seem to be untouched. If conquests do change, then some guides need to be renewed. Hopefully not too much will change, considering the amount of countries involved.
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Post by 𝓐𝓲𝓼𝓪𝓴𝓪 on Sept 10, 2022 15:55:55 GMT
New mode: Military Operation The first 2 chapters will be unlocked in this update with different difficulties. Players can get rewards by clearing the stages and reaching each aim.
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Post by ɪʟʟʏᴀꜱᴠɪᴇʟ ᴠᴏɴ ᴇɪɴᴢʙᴇʀɴ on Sept 17, 2022 15:02:26 GMT
Recap and additional overview of the update: [New Generals] 12 new generals from the Soviet Union, Poland, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and the United States will join the battlefield. [New medal system] 9 types of new medals with different attributes will be added. Generals can equip the medals to increase the corresponding attributes. According to the handbook, generals can gain an additional skill by wearing 2 different types of medals. Different types of medals can be combined together to create different skills. [New Mode] New mode - Military Operation Operation Barbarossa and Patriotic War are unlocked in this update. Players can choose their own route of attack and receive random medals awards after passing the corresponding level. The higher the difficulty level you choose, the more medals you can get after clearing the stage. [Login bonus] Login reward is increased from 7 days to 15 days. [New IAP] Added limited-time general bundle and limited-time medals bundle. [Bug fixed] Fix the bug that the flame cannot disappear after the city is on fire in the conquest mode.
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Post by starfire67 on Sept 17, 2022 16:31:09 GMT
So medals can give +damage and possibly other bonuses, can be leveled and probably have more useful skills than the morale penalty one. The cut-off "Infantry Tactical Master" looks like it gives a bonus to yourself AND other units around you, which is new to WC3 and could open up some interesting tactical opportunities.
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 21, 2022 11:34:58 GMT
September update is out on Android! My comments: 2 Air medal to Sansonetti = 5 star air general I can buy Artillery Medal (+4 attack) with 150 medals. Much cheaper than to give your artillery EC the fourth star in artillery. (Good thing I stockpiled medals.) There is no change in the 1939 and 1943 conquest. Holy cow!!! There are so many combination of medals! NEW GENERAL Falkenhorst (1195 after 50% discount) Captain, 4 infantry, 2 tank and navy, 1 artillery, 4 mobility, Bayonet Charge 4, Raider 3, Defense Tactics 3, Organization 2 (a new skill). Organization 2 = When units health fall below 50% total HP, +30 HP in the next round. I do not recommend him since Zhu D. outperforms him. If Organization could be given to ECs, it could be our Ace Forces 2.0 (unless it is more expensive than Supply). Pavlov (1295 medals) S Lieutenant (not sure since I based it in the operation?), 3 infantry, 4 tank, 2 artillery, 1 navy and air, 3 mobility, panzer leader 3, infantry leader 3, anti armor 3, fortifications 2 We have another Chuikov! Yeryomenko ( ) Major? 2 infantry, 1 tank, 4 artillery, 2 navy, 3 mobility, art barrage 3, art leader 3, shelter 3, supply 2. If he is as expensive as the previous two, he is no better than Badoglio. Tolbukhin ( ) Major? 4 infantry, 2 tank, 3 artillery, 2 air, 1 navy, 5 mobility, inf leader 4, anti armor 3, organization 2, art barrage 2, raider 2. No better than Konev.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Sept 21, 2022 19:50:53 GMT
September update is out on Android! My comments: 2 Air medal to Sansonetti = 5 star air general I can buy Artillery Medal (+4 attack) with 150 medals. Much cheaper than to give your artillery EC the fourth star in artillery. (Good thing I stockpiled medals.) There is no change in the 1939 and 1943 conquest. Holy cow!!! There are so many combination of medals! NEW GENERAL Falkenhorst (1195 after 50% discount) Captain, 4 infantry, 2 tank and navy, 1 artillery, 4 mobility, Bayonet Charge 4, Raider 3, Defense Tactics 3, Organization 2 (a new skill). Organization 2 = When units health fall below 50% total HP, +30 HP in the next round. I do not recommend him since Zhu D. outperforms him. If Organization could be given to ECs, it could be our Ace Forces 2.0 (unless it is more expensive than Supply). Pavlov (1295 medals) S Lieutenant (not sure since I based it in the operation?), 3 infantry, 4 tank, 2 artillery, 1 navy and air, 3 mobility, panzer leader 3, infantry leader 3, anti armor 3, fortifications 2 We have another Chuikov! Yeryomenko ( ) Major? 2 infantry, 1 tank, 4 artillery, 2 navy, 3 mobility, art barrage 3, art leader 3, shelter 3, supply 2. If he is as expensive as the previous two, he is no better than Badoglio. Tolbukhin ( ) Major? 4 infantry, 2 tank, 3 artillery, 2 air, 1 navy, 5 mobility, inf leader 4, anti armor 3, organization 2, art barrage 2, raider 2. No better than Konev. Plus Weidling: Major?, infantry 2, tank 3, artillery 5, air 1, navy 2, movement 3, Paner Leader 3, Artillery Leader 3, Artillery Barrage 3, Shelter Expert 2, Inspiration 2. Inspiration 2: 10% chance to increase morale after attack. Artillery wise another Konev.
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 21, 2022 22:33:23 GMT
September update is out on Android! My comments: 2 Air medal to Sansonetti = 5 star air general I can buy Artillery Medal (+4 attack) with 150 medals. Much cheaper than to give your artillery EC the fourth star in artillery. (Good thing I stockpiled medals.) There is no change in the 1939 and 1943 conquest. Holy cow!!! There are so many combination of medals! NEW GENERAL Falkenhorst (1195 after 50% discount) Captain, 4 infantry, 2 tank and navy, 1 artillery, 4 mobility, Bayonet Charge 4, Raider 3, Defense Tactics 3, Organization 2 (a new skill). Organization 2 = When units health fall below 50% total HP, +30 HP in the next round. I do not recommend him since Zhu D. outperforms him. If Organization could be given to ECs, it could be our Ace Forces 2.0 (unless it is more expensive than Supply). Pavlov (1295 medals) S Lieutenant (not sure since I based it in the operation?), 3 infantry, 4 tank, 2 artillery, 1 navy and air, 3 mobility, panzer leader 3, infantry leader 3, anti armor 3, fortifications 2 We have another Chuikov! Yeryomenko ( ) Major? 2 infantry, 1 tank, 4 artillery, 2 navy, 3 mobility, art barrage 3, art leader 3, shelter 3, supply 2. If he is as expensive as the previous two, he is no better than Badoglio. Tolbukhin ( ) Major? 4 infantry, 2 tank, 3 artillery, 2 air, 1 navy, 5 mobility, inf leader 4, anti armor 3, organization 2, art barrage 2, raider 2. No better than Konev. Plus Weidling: Major?, infantry 2, tank 3, artillery 5, air 1, navy 2, movement 3, Paner Leader 3, Artillery Leader 3, Artillery Barrage 3, Shelter Expert 2, Inspiration 2. Inspiration 2: 10% chance to increase morale after attack. Artillery wise another Konev. I hope I could give skills such as Inspiration to my ECs. Inspiration > Rumour since aliens is unaffected by morale, but one time I selected the Inspiration buff in Operations, many of my generals gained a high morale.
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Post by resiphius on Sept 22, 2022 8:00:27 GMT
September update is out on Android! My comments: 2 Air medal to Sansonetti = 5 star air general I can buy Artillery Medal (+4 attack) with 150 medals. Much cheaper than to give your artillery EC the fourth star in artillery. (Good thing I stockpiled medals.) There is no change in the 1939 and 1943 conquest. Holy cow!!! There are so many combination of medals! NEW GENERAL Falkenhorst (1195 after 50% discount) Captain, 4 infantry, 2 tank and navy, 1 artillery, 4 mobility, Bayonet Charge 4, Raider 3, Defense Tactics 3, Organization 2 (a new skill). Organization 2 = When units health fall below 50% total HP, +30 HP in the next round. I do not recommend him since Zhu D. outperforms him. If Organization could be given to ECs, it could be our Ace Forces 2.0 (unless it is more expensive than Supply). Pavlov (1295 medals) S Lieutenant (not sure since I based it in the operation?), 3 infantry, 4 tank, 2 artillery, 1 navy and air, 3 mobility, panzer leader 3, infantry leader 3, anti armor 3, fortifications 2 We have another Chuikov! Yeryomenko ( ) Major? 2 infantry, 1 tank, 4 artillery, 2 navy, 3 mobility, art barrage 3, art leader 3, shelter 3, supply 2. If he is as expensive as the previous two, he is no better than Badoglio. Tolbukhin ( ) Major? 4 infantry, 2 tank, 3 artillery, 2 air, 1 navy, 5 mobility, inf leader 4, anti armor 3, organization 2, art barrage 2, raider 2. No better than Konev. Plus Weidling: Major?, infantry 2, tank 3, artillery 5, air 1, navy 2, movement 3, Paner Leader 3, Artillery Leader 3, Artillery Barrage 3, Shelter Expert 2, Inspiration 2. Inspiration 2: 10% chance to increase morale after attack. Artillery wise another Konev. I think the new medal system may promote, prolong or demote some generals’ usefulness, efficiency or cost effectiveness, would you make reassessment?
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 22, 2022 14:10:12 GMT
Plus Weidling: Major?, infantry 2, tank 3, artillery 5, air 1, navy 2, movement 3, Paner Leader 3, Artillery Leader 3, Artillery Barrage 3, Shelter Expert 2, Inspiration 2. Inspiration 2: 10% chance to increase morale after attack. Artillery wise another Konev. I think the new medal system may promote, prolong or demote some generals’ usefulness, efficiency or cost effectiveness, would you make reassessment? I will make an assessment about every current considerable generals first (specifically against aliens) and then I will make an assessment on those less considerable. SANSONETTI: 1) Aviation Fuel (Air force + Combo). He will have an additional 12/16/20 damage dealt as an airforce general The combo medal is useless, but the Aviation Fuel buff is awesome! +1/2/3 grid for air forces. Sansonetti seals his position at the top of all navy and air generals. 2) Tactical Master (2 Assault Medals). Deals 12%/16%/20% extra damage to enemies, but he will not do the work. Tactical Master is the Crowd Tactics of WC3. Gives the general and friendly units within 1 grid +5/7/10 damage dealt. This must be his buff if deploying 6 generals on good units in a campaign is too expensive, just deploy him on a motorized infantry and send him with the other generals. 3) Naval Fleet (Navy + Assault). Goodbye forever, Donitz! Sansonetti does every thing you do. Although, I recommend this less since there aren't much naval warfare in WC3 yet. Maybe it's useful in that one particular Alien mission?
GUDERIAN/PATTON/ROMMEL/MANSTEIN TANK/TANK EC: 1) Panzer Tactical Master (Armored + Assault). He will have an additional 12/16/20 damage dealt as a panzer general and +6%/8%/10% damage dealt to enemy troops. Surround him with Patton and a bunch of other tanks within 1 grid from Guderian and they will all deal +5/7/10 extra damage. 2) Panzer Cluster (Armored + Combo). Instead of Assault's buff, he will get +9%/12%/15% chance to attack again. And this time, 1/1/2 inactive units around him will join the attack. Only for players who believe in RNGesus. For Patton and Manstein, Armored Medal will compensate for their lack of Tide of Iron. For Tank EC, do not get his 4th panzer star yet.
GOVOROV/BADOGLIO: Artillery + Marching is the best for them. Additional 4/8/12/16/20 damage dealt as an artillery general, and +1/2/3/4/5 march. He is powerful already so Marching > Assault as his only weaknesses are mobility and health. Leave the Artillery Tactical Master for somebody else to get. In my opinion, Badoglio can now outpeform Konev in terms of cost efficiency. 1210+600 (150*4, 1 medals for lvl 1 art. medal for+4 damage, 3 medals for upgrading to lvl 2 art. medal for +8 damage if you gonna buy 4 medals from the store now) + whatever cost the lvl 1 marching medal is less than 3110. Heck he might even be at par with Bai C.X. now given the medals.
VATUTIN: Armored + Marching. He is that very slow, so Marching would do him justice so that he can run as fast as Rommel.
Bai C.X./Artillery ECs/MANSTEIN ART.: 1) Give Artillery Tactical Master to Bai C.X./art. EC instead. This do two things: 1) compensate for his dependence on Plain Fighting for output and 2) Buffs Govorov and other artillery generals and units, especially in 1975/Aliens. 2) Fire Suppresion (Artillery + Combo). Just like Panzer Cluster. Nothing better than an artillery general behaving like a tank. Only for players who believe in RNGesus. For Manstein, Artillery Medal will compensate for his lack of Art. Barrage. For Art. EC, do not get his 4th artillery star yet.
Edit: I am thinking of advising to give Bai C.X. Infantry + Artillery Medals so that he could become a Konev.
Infantry Generals (Konev, EC, Vasilevsky), Crear: Tactical Master (2 Assault Medals). Infantry Tactical Master is only useful probably in India 1975. You can turn WC3 Crear into a WC4 Crear now.
The generals that I might do cost analysis with are probably Timoshenko, Zhu D. Please quote this comment if you want me to analyze which generals will perform better than before, cost-wise.
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Post by Josip Broz Tito on Sept 22, 2022 23:34:06 GMT
Please do an analysis for gens. I feel like Bai is both worse and cooler due to the fact that he can move, in theory, 8 grids on Rocket Artillery.
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Post by starfire67 on Sept 23, 2022 10:48:32 GMT
I'm not sure that minmaxing level 5 medal combos is even necessary, it's enough of a power boost to beat aliens completely either way. I've completed the last challenges I had and have 3-starred gold Union 01, 02, 03, 04, and 08 already with only lvl 2 medals (although I do have lvl 16 artillery and tank tech).
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Post by starfire67 on Sept 23, 2022 10:51:41 GMT
Also worth noting that the value of a medal is probably less than its purchase price. Using your daily free refresh to do a run of Hard-rank operations gives you medals it would cost 600-900 to buy from the shop (plus the fact you can pay 200 to do a second run), whereas I can at best farm 500 medals per day. In other words, save your currency medals for other upgrades and get medals from the operations.
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Sept 24, 2022 2:10:35 GMT
Weidling: Major, 1845 medals. A Bai C.X. with less survivability. Even with the Inspiring skill, he does not outperform Bai C.X. His only advantage is that he does not depend on Plain Fighting for output. You have to promote him to an M. General, but he will cost a total of 2785 medals. +2 extra damage and similar health compared to Bai C.X. should not cost you 925 medals more.
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